Talk:Vladimir Dekanozov
Latest comment: 2 years ago by TheMightyGeneral in topic Identity conflict.
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editVladimir Dekanozishvili finds 0 hits on Google. Vladimir Dekanozov finds many more and the most popular name in English usage should be used in Wikipedia.
- I agree Sigitas 16:18, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's just because internet usage in Georgia is low. See Systematic bias.
- So do I. Thank you for noticing this. D'Italia 17:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Any such additions needs to be sourced. See Wikipedia:Citing sources on what books and websites can be sources and which ones cannot. D'Italia 14:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Dekanozishvili-Dekanozov is mentioned here: www.svoboda.org/programs/rtl/2004/rtl.100604.asp
- His family name should be included, because it is not clear why he was living in Georgian SSR in his early years without his Georgian family name.
- Moreover Giorgi Dekanozishvili, father of Vladimir Dekanozishvili, should be mentioned. He was founder of Party of Georgian Social-Federalists.
DonaldDuck 09:38, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- From what I found on Internet I believe that his birthname was Dekanizishvili but I cannot find a respected source to prove it so far. Mentioning some name in radioshow by some guy is not good enough. Source should be reputable. Sigitas 16:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Move protected
editI have move protected the article because of the move warring. If you intend to move the article please file WP:RM as the moving is certainly controversial. Alex Bakharev (talk) 23:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not even sure whether Dekanozishvili is a correct alternative rendition of the guy's surname. As far as I remember, it was Dekanozov's son who adopted a Georgian surname, while Vladimir Georgievich himself always used a Russified form. He was of mixed Armeno-Georgian ancestry. I'll try to find some sources.--KoberTalk 16:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Armenian ancestry is quite typical for Georgian intellectuals, so there is no controversy here.DonaldDuck (talk) 04:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- And "russification" of names is quite typical for NKVD officers, too.DonaldDuck (talk) 04:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, he was not an "intellectual" and I don't quite understand what you mean by "Armenian ancestry is quite typical for Georgian intellectuals". Second, Dekanozov's surname had been Russified long before he became a NKVD officer and I'm not sure whether Dekanozishvili was his surname at birth. Anyway, I don't generally like to discuss such things without having sources at hand. As I said before I will try to obtain references and make necessary changes in the article. --KoberTalk 04:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Identity conflict.
editWhen there is a conflict about the true identity and origin of a person, in this case Vladimir Dekanozov, you can add theories and claims that contradict official documents and other claims / vice versa. But don't simply remove either them altogheter in favour of one over the other. Both majority and minority views have to be considered. The theory that Vladimir Dekanozov was in truth Estonian, is as far as I am aware, not the academic consensus, but a minority view. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 11:24, 26 August 2022 (UTC)