Talk:Vietnamese people/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

South-East Asians or East Asians

Should vietnamese people count as SE Asians or East Asians? 31.49.93.85 (talk) 15:54, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Possible Vietnamese-Thailand similarity error

The Wikipedia article states that North Vietnamese and North Thailand share similarities. However, the research article does not state this, only suggesting that KHV (which stands for Kinh Vietnamese, the major ethnicity in Vietnam) and TAI as Thai people representing Thailand as sharing similar genomic history. The north Vietnam and north Thailand are not the only ones who share similarities - it's Vietnamese people and Thai people sharing similarities in general. 'North' should be removed.

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2020

This article met some problems with the definition of the word "Kinh" in Kinh people. It said that the word originated from Kinh Dương Vương, the first ruler of the Vietnamese people but in fact, it means "capital city" (Kinh Đô in Vietnamese) and the term Kinh people means "people live in the capital city. Please update the article. 118.70.54.74 (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

The folk etymology has now been removed by User:DHN. If you have a source for another etymology you can point to it. – Thjarkur (talk)

About the noun "Kinh"

Someone had suggested that the name "kinh" (Jin, Gin, King) appeared during the Sui-Tang dynasty, associated with the former name "Jincheng" of Hanoi. But there is also argument that the word Kinh had originated during the Western Jin dynasty (265-316 CE) to describe the Han and sinicized settlers around Jincheng (Hanoi).

-anonymous- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:e37f:fff1:1096:87f8:f81b:7101 (talk) 20:53, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2020

Change 82,085,826 85.32% To 96,208,984 Thanh Son Le (talk) 19:53, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Please provide a reliable source that supports this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:05, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

CBS (Dutch) source is unreliable

The CBS source talks about Vietnamese people to mean anyone who comes from the country of Vietnam, not Kinh people. Dutch statistics are based on nationality (or national origin) not ethnicity. A Hoa or Muong would also be counted as "Vietnamese". As it states "The migration background of a person with a first-generation migration background is defined as his or her country of birth. The migration background of a person with a second-generation migration background is defined as his or her mother's country of birth, unless the mother's country of birth is the Netherlands. In that case, the migration background is defined as the father's country of birth.", using this criterion any Hmong or Cham would become Kinh if they immigrate to the Netherlands. I don't think that the list should include the Netherlands unless a more reliable source for ethnic Kinh (and not civic Vietnamese, or however else to call everyone from Vietnam including non-Kinh peoples). --Donald Trung (talk) 21:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Japanese source is bad too

I checked the Japanese source and it says nothing about so-called "ethnic Vietnamese" (Kinh people), it only refers to people in Japan with the Vietnamese nationality, like I had stated above this would somehow magically turn ethnic minorities and turn them into "Kinh" if they immigrate to these specific countries that register nationality and not ethnicity. Perhaps we should debate including some of these countries until better sources can be found. It's like saying that any person from the United Kingdom (including Scottish or Irish) turns into "English" when immigrating to another country. Some of these sources deserve more scrutiny. Or anyone from the United States can become "ethnic Americans" using this source too. --Donald Trung (talk) 11:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2021

Xin key Septem9th (talk) 23:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Sjsisis Septem9th (talk) 23:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:53, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2021

I want to add an audio file on how người Kinh is pronounced.

Pronunciation of người Kinh

Lachy70 (talk) 01:15, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. It does not appear there is consensus for this addition. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:35, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

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Usage of Chinese instead of Vietnamese

Can you change the Chinese translation of Việt nhân (越人) and Kinh nhân (京人) to the original Chữ Nôm người Việt (𠊛越) and người Kinh (𠊛京)?--14.244.0.22 (talk) 19:12, 3 December 2021 (UTC)