Talk:The Meeting House

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The article doesn't have the objective tone expected of a Wikipedia article. Jrichardn 21:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Response to Previous Comment

In response to that previous comment, two things.

1. 1-Most Wikipedia articles are not, get used to it. To police every single article is impossible.

1. 2-The reason is that this article in not even a paraphrase of the Brethren in Christ website or The Meeting House website, it's virtually just a mix and match. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattawa (talk • contribs) 17:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Response to the response

So what, all articles are not objective, and not policed, therefore they should never be policed? What are you just trying to get by the rules through a technicality or something? Talk about breaking the spirit of the law. Are you a Christian?--Tomwchow 04:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Response to the Response on my response

To the previous response I say this, because the high number of articles you have to 'police' the important ones. This (article) is not important enough, it is incredibly difficult to police everything, It's nearly impossible. Stick to the important ones, social sciences, science, psychology, history, literature and current events. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattawa (talk • contribs) 16:25, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

Response to the debate

This is a poorly written article. It ought to be tagged as an advertisment. To the author-editors who are obviously members of the organization, You have your own website to promote your Organization. Wikipedia isn't it! As for the "prayed to god" part, I am going to research Wikipedias policy on this, it is not the first time i have come across these terms in religious articles, but it will likely fall into the scope of WP:NPOV I will be, for now on, taking an active role in helping develop this page and look forward to working with Y'all on it. Tallrichard2 10:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Parts of this are ripped right from the meeting house website, thats a big No-NoTallrichard2 21:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Major Rewrite

Since nobody else visited this page in over a month, i went ahead and edited the page. if you would like to make further changes, please do, but only if you understand The 5 pillars of Wikipedia. The former article resembled an advertisment, was copied from various sources from the net(someGNU, some not). And did not have an encyclopedic tone. please do not revert my edits, but make edits within the Wikipedia Guidelines. also, please remember that wikipedia is about Verifiability, so if you can't provide sources, then please don't include it in the article.ThanksTallrichard2 23:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:BruxyCavey.gif

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BetacommandBot 15:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Section on legal issues / sexual misconduct

@Walter Görlitz - you suggested I discuss this on the article's talk page. I am wondering about the reason for renaming the section "Sexual misconduct and exploitation" to "Legal charges and accusations". I understand you referenced WP:NPOV, however I still think that something along the lines of "Sexual misconduct charges" would be more accurate, given that the section is not about legal issues in general, but rather it's specifically regarding a series of sexual misconduct charges. Open to your perspective - I'm trying to learn! Dizzyflamingo (talk) 06:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes I did because discussing it on my talk page will not result in appropriate exposure.

No, "sexual misconduct charges" is salacious, as is the fact that there is a focus on the three charges of sexual misconduct and one accusation of the same. I am quite certain that the broad heading is better left open for future additions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 08:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation.

I have chosen to only focus on those charges (I actually only added two - someone else added Bruxy) as those are the charges I am aware of. Of course if I learn of others, I will add them to the article. Dizzyflamingo (talk) 04:56, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Also, it is clear we disagree on the subject of the more appropriate heading. I am interested in what others think. Other articles on Wikipedia seem to categorize sexual misconduct allegations as their own section rather than lumping them in with other legal issues. See Harvey Weinstein, Donald Trump, Kevin Spacey, Chris Noth Dizzyflamingo (talk) 05:03, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Reliable Sources

@ohnoitsjamie Re: your removal of first-party source as unreliable, WP:RS states that “Self-published … sources may be used as sources of information about themselves” - would this not apply in this case? Regardless, I will add third-party sources to be safe dizzyflamingo (talk) 13:50, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Third-party are always preferable. Note that 5 criteria for self-published in WP:SELFSOURCE. Some of those are questionable in this case, hence the need for third-party. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie understood, thanks dizzyflamingo (talk) 18:07, 25 March 2022 (UTC)