Talk:The Last of Us Part II Remastered

PS5 exclusive

@Singbad82: Regarding this edit: nobody is disputing that Remastered is practically identical to the original game content-wise, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a wholly separate release. Remastered is only available on PS5; thus, it is a PlayStation 5-only game (just as The Last of Us Part I was, until it was brought to PC). – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

That is a completely nonsense argument. If something is practically identical to something else and is available in multiple locations, then those things are in fact one thing with at most minor modifications and as such it is available in multiple places. Singbad82 (talk) 00:23, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Singbad82: If The Last of Us Part II had simply been re-released on PS5 (like, for example, Grand Theft Auto V), then I'd agree with you. However, Remastered was marketed, released, and reviewed as a separate product. Similarities between versions are irrelevant; it is, functionally, a separate game—and that game was released exclusively on PS5. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• However, Remastered was marketed, released, and reviewed as a separate product. Similarities between versions are irrelevant; it is, functionally, a separate game—and that game was released exclusively on PS5.

Again, this is nonsense. None of that is relevant to what the game is, which is a single title. If I were to make a claw hammer with a plastic handle and sell it, only to later sell the same claw hammer with a slightly decorated plastic handle, it's still the same hammer even if I market, get it released and reviewed differently. If I restrict the use of the hammer to only certain actions, it's still the same hammer. It's the same with the game.

The last of us 2 and the last of us 2 remastered are the same game and as such, cannot be exclusive to the PS5. Singbad82 (talk) 00:56, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

In your hypothetical scenario, yes, those are two separate products. It's not our decision to determine that they're the same simply because we think they're similar. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

No, you're wrong. It's not a matter of what you think, you're plain and simply incorrect. Singbad82 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree it's not just about what I think; it's a fact—that's just how games work. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Factually wrong. You evidently don't know that much about games. Singbad82 (talk) 04:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Evidently. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 04:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I've seen your profile. The fact that you don't even know how exclusivity works throws the credibility of every sing game related article you've worked on into the trash. Singbad82 (talk) 04:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

That's a significant accusation and one I take seriously; in that case, WP:ANI and WT:VG may be the best venues in which to reassess any of my edits. See also WP:APR. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 05:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

That's good that you take it seriously and I hope your other articles are at a higher standard. Regardless, there doesn't seem to be anything else to discuss. Singbad82 (talk) 05:41, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure; generally speaking, I'm fairly apathetic about both categories and redirects, so while I stand by my points here, I'm not particularly bothered either. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 05:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I think Rhain is correct here. Consensus would indicate that TLoU Part II Remastered is a PS5 exclusive; remasters/ports with a different title and with some modicum of exclusive content are usually considered an exclusive (if they are only released on one platform). I think the playable cut levels included in Remastered are significant enough to set it apart, personally. One example would be Pikmin 3 Deluxe being present on the Switch-only games page. I've really only seen this type of objection raised towards PS5 games for some reason. Jursha (talk) 22:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)