Talk:Scooter (band)

Dell

Terrific song: Scooter - J'adore Hardcore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.162.176.190 (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Is there a reason the { { Dell } } tag is on this page? I don't think Dell owns them do they? If someone confirms, I will delete it.

-HalfBrian (talk) 19:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Article

Any chance of anyone lengthening the article e.g. bigger history, list of samples (there are a hell of a lot) used in their songs, detailed album descriptions, etc etc?

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Didn't want to create an account that I most likely won't use so I edited. Sorry to the person above.

I found an official Myspace Page for anyone who's interested:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=16591584 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.137.24.34 (talk) 04:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

German techno group?

German techno group? rofl

Who put this? What else what you class it as then? It's techno... happy hardcore, trance, whatever, all originate from techno. The band themselves call their music 'techno'... and their official website is called 'Scootertechno' DShamen 23:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

What a ridiculous thing to say! The equivalent of calling Scooter a techno band is calling Jesus a racist? What would you call Scooter then?

I agree, what a moron.

Funny thing, the only techno band worth notice is Scooter. IEEE 10:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you really that close minded? Salamibears58 (talk) 02:01, 15 September 2011 (UTC)Salamibears58

They are techno... hardcore, happy hardcore, trance are all offshoots of techno. To call them simply 'dance' is ridiculous. I don't see that categorization on other electronic dance artists.

"that gaming site, wikipedia" heh. -x1987x^(talk) 16:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a good word for Scooter's music - eurodance. 62.78.153.171 16:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Eurodance is good word for those "critics" who heard only "Fish" and "Fire". The main Scooter's tracks are techno, hardcore, happy hardcore, trance as say higher. Relax. Be good. :))--Oleg Abarnikov 17:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I have listened to electronic dance music for about fifteen years (including Scooter) and I would say that Scooter's music has never been hardcore or techno. It has, however, been rave and happy hardcore and sometimes even trance. Mostly, Scooter has their own genre based on happy hardcore. Someone has been altering the genres, it should be stopped. There is nothing wrong in being a happy hardcore musician (or at least not much...), there is no reason why there should be these genres (techno, hardcore) listed. Not everything with a drum machine is techno and not every techno track with a distorted TR-808 bass drum is hardcore. Mstuomel 19:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Well it would seem that most people on here disagree... (unsigned comment left by 84.13.92.53)

It seems the majority consensus is that Scooter is a techno band. To the guy who said Scooter is "eurodance", are you really serious? No scooter fan will ever tell yuo scooter is an eurodance band. - Killeroid 00:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I think, I know this guy. Whan I managed an article in RU-Wiki, one man was very strong in his suggestions about this band. And he really thouth that Scooter is eurodance. His right of course, but he's really wrong.--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 09:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks like your pal from RU-Wiki (83.142.202.41) is inflicting their views here nowadays. Syxx (talk) 22:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Scooter is not techno. Techno is a genre about repetative loops and electronic percussion, usually without melody (or there just simple melodies). That applies to any techno genre from detroit to hard techno, from minimal to acid techno. So, when Scooter made music like this style? Never. That's one thing that everything with 4/4 drum machine is mistakenly called techno by people who not into electronic music. And yes I know they say about themself that, they're a techno band. To be correct they played many different styles in the time. Like happy hardcore, hands up, anthem house, eurotrance, trance, hardtrance, a mix beetween them, etc. But not techno. Why does an electronic dance music band wouldn't be okay for description? --TaZaR 19:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Mostly, Scooter has their own genre based on happy hardcore (Mstuomel). ^^^... no they don't! They got all their ideas from Ultra-Sonic and the Scottish hardcore rave scene. It's been written in the past in magazines. --Revolt (talk) 09:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I get a kick out of the people who argue that just about everything "isn't techno". Scooter's website repeatedly refers to their music as techno. Scooter themselves call their music "hardcore" in the lyrics of some of their songs. "Do you like your hardcore?" --JHP (talk) 10:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Yup, and let's not forget the 1930's and 1960's jumpstyle/hardstyle/tekkno/whatever songs which inspire Scooter...ah, c'mon, who's so retarded to believe that the complete output of a band can be classified by one single genre??? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!1!""!!!!!!! --Klaws (talk) 19:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

"Techno" must (finally) be removed, Scooter are not known for having produced Techno. Maybe they produced 2,3 Techno tracks ("Bramfeld"), but that's it. Dance etc. ain't Techno like the media tells us... --Gabbahead. (talk) 09:06, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:RS. Scooter will be Techno band because of reliable sources and because of YOU don't want to see it in "Techno" section it can't be moved out.--Soul Train (talk) 12:51, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Then add "techno-ballad" (Billboard.com, which was used as source for the "Techno"), too. ;-) --Gabbahead. (talk) 16:19, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? I am speechless. Scooter is far from techno. Just because they call themselves that does not mean they are techno. AC/DC colloquially called themselves rock n' roll, yet Wikipedia has the common sense to omit this from their page and classify them as hard rock and blues rock among a few others, but never rock n' roll. Why? Because they know their genres, and whoever is in charge here clearly doesn't. It sounds like they haven't read the Wikipedia page for Techno themselves. --2601:D:3A00:FB8:8D56:A474:653A:1F2 (talk) 22:24, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

This thread is full of gatekeepers trying to put things into a small box. “Techno” is not a small box. It’s a wide open concept with many, many variants. 31.125.225.86 (talk) 15:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

German

Someone should translate the German wiki article.

Yeah to much UK german bashing in it:)

-- Al™ 05:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC) Scooter have been my favouite band for years. scooter is NOT TECHNO ITS HARD DANCE. IF YOU LISTEN TO THEIR MUSIC it does not sound like techno. no real techno dj plays scooter.pff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.149.97 (talk) 00:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

someone have to edit ...

scooter is from scotland...

H.P. Baxxter Rick J. Jordan Michael Simon

<irony>all typical german names, isnt it? </ironi> Not their real names. H.P. is actually called Hans-Peter Geredees. ¬_¬

They are German. These are NOT their real names... they have no link to Scotland whatsoever.

• "scooter is from scotland..." LOL, LOL, Lol!!!!! Hahahaha!!!!! Good 2nd "critic", go on!--Oleg Abarnikov 17:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

"they have no link to Scotland whatsoever."... apart from the fact that Ultra-Sonic claimed in magazines that Scooter copied them to a tee, which was Scottish rave music.

The Beginning of Scooter - where vocalist H.P. Baxxter began freestyling to an instrumental dance track, thus the melody "Hyper Hyper" being born.

I know this Ultra-Sonic connection was on the article from some years back... now seemingly removed. It's actually mentioned on the German wiki page.

"Im Mai wurde Hyper Hyper veröffentlicht, dessen gleichnamige Vocals auf "Annihilating Rhythm" des schottischen Acts Ultra-Sonic basiert. Dieser Titel war stilbildend für viele der später produzierten Stücke Scooters."

The connection is much further if you have the M8 Magazines from the mid-1990s. --Revolt (talk) 10:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Clean up

Ok, this article isn't written like a encyclopedia article but from a Bio side. Can someone please clean it up?

Australian charts??

According to www.australian-charts.com the only songs that charted by Scooter were "The Logical Song" and "Nessaja" .. yet somehow other songs are noted there? It should be specified if it was just the club charts, because they are completely different to the regular charts. 211.30.195.154 03:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Here's all charts success - [1] - dance and not dance--Oleg Abarnikov 17:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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The controversy section is poorly worded and EXTREMELEY biased. There is no proof that Scooter HASN'T got the licenses for the samples they use. And yes, it is techno. Cheesy? yes. Yet techno nonetheless.

• "HASN'T got the licenses for the samples they use" Hahaha! Where are reports of lawsuits? I can't find it. More of this, leader of KLF said that he like Scooter and proud that they use their's samples.--Oleg Abarnikov 17:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thats what I'm tryin to say lol, no proof they DONT have licensing!

• • Ooopss :) Didn't seen "no proof"--Oleg Abarnikov 17:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Possible edit war

I have noticed that this article is in danger of going into edit war. Anonymous IP addresses constantly add "fan sites" offering mp3 downloads and edit the genres. Some consensus should be reached or perhaps some expert attention is needed? Mstuomel 08:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

It would appear that you don't think they are techno whilst other users do. Well I suggest that you check their official website, where the band themselves class their music as 'techno' and numerous other website that also classify them as such. I shall stay out of such a petty argument other than showing you an example - check www.allmusic.com's description of what they think Scooter actually are. Also, if we're going to be fussy... Scooter haven't played happy hardcore for over a decade, nor done anything remotely 'ravey' either. And as most of their tracks since then haven't really been trance (other than a few exceptions) then what else can we class the rest of their music as?DShamen 10:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Scooter are the Spinal Tap of dance music; they walk the line between clever and stupid. As for what Scooter thinks Scooter is, they're the kind of techno that people who don't know what techno is call techno.

There is no edit war. WP:EL clearly states that these links are NOT acceptable and actually they should be treated like vandalism. Its a tried and true practice and if it happens the user(s) involved will be acted against via the normal linkspam/vandalism channels.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 22:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

• "Real Techno" is bull sh... Stupid sounds without purpose, melody. Scooter are GREATEST!--Oleg Abarnikov 17:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Celebrate The Nun

I thought I'd replace the image of "Celebrate the Nun" since they have a clearer picture in their 1991 album "Continuous". Hope nobody minds. Harout72

Genre Changes

Right, fed up of this nonsense... as far as I'm concerned, they largely produce what can be loosely described as 'techno'... they have done happy hardcore and hardcore (both forms of 'rave' music) in the early 90s, and have always done a number of tracks with trance-like influences, and have more recently produced music with hard house influences. I'm all for the inclusion of all of these genres. DShamen 02:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• • Not "trance-like" and "hard house influences", but super-real trance and real house.--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 09:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Non-free images

I think using four nonfree images is a bit much in this article. Can we decide on one and get rid of the others? Album covers are really only fair use on the article about the album itself, but I would accept one (though other admins may differ). Rather than just removing them all I thought I would open it up for further discussion. Please see WP:FAIRUSE for more details. --John (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe, every single one of the images should be kept because each represents a different Scooter-chapter/era as well as different third member. Yes, we do have four images, first of which represents Celebrate the Nun (not active beyond 1991), then we have the second image which includes Sören Bühler (aka Ferris Büller) who left the act in 1998, in the third one, there is Axel Broszeit (aka Axel Coon) who has not been with the band since 2002, and the fourth image has Jürgen Frosch (aka Jay Frog) within, who in his turn, has not been with the act ever since Michael Simon replaced him in 2006. Consequently, I'd say we should keep them all not only because they all have been deliberated and approved by administrators but also because they all provide an immediate relevance to the reader more capably than the textual description would . --Harout72 (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Nessaja & The Logical Song

• "Nessaja" is from Encore: Live & Direct, the Official Scooter Discography clearly states so. The cover even has a giant yellow circle proudly proclaiming "Inc. No-1 hit Nessaja!". This CD was released May 13th, whilst 24 Carat Gold came out a whole 6 months later on Nov 4th.

• "Ramp!" has always been just "The Logical Song" in the UK. Here's a link to a BBC report about it's chart position in June 2002, and just for extra proof head here and scroll down to see the cover of "The Logical Song" in all it's Ramp-less glory. Alternatively this link to the CD single on Amazon.co.uk should also suffice.

Syxx (talk) 05:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I have seen that giant logo before as well on the cover of Encore: Live & Direct (it's stated as a bonus track), but the song "Nessaja" is not anywhere within the track list [2] [3]. However, the track is included within the 24 Carat Gold [4] [5]. --Harout72 (talk) 05:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Sometimes they rerelease albums with bonus tracks (which is why we see the yellow logo on the cover), see the original release does not have the yellow logo nor does it include the track anywhere, so in the case of "Nessaja", I do believe the track was officially chosen to be the song to introduce the 24 Carat Gold.--Harout72 (talk) 05:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why do you keep linking to the Official Scooter Discography that clearly says "Nessaja" is the last track on Encore as proof that it somehow isn't on it? It's not some special re-release, that's how it came out. Here's a scan of the back of the original CD with "Nessaja" as the final track and the 2002 date printed at the bottom. Also, here's Amazon.com's page for Encore, once again clearly including "Nessaja" as Track 18. The yellow circle isn't included on all online pictures of the covers as it was a sticker on the outer CD case itself, thus it isn't technically a part of the the cover artwork.

"Nessaja" came out in April then Encore was released about a month later with it tacked on the end. 6 months after that along came Christmas cash-in 24 Carat Gold, the release of which was something to do with some territory (France or Italy maybe? I've forgotten where) not having an easily-available "Best Of" and certainly nothing to do with a 7 month old single.Syxx (talk) 06:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It's quite obvious that you are not familiar how things are done in music industry, Bonus-tracks on albums or compilations are not released as singles. I am sure that you still don't believe it. Now look at this (this is how it was originally released with no "Nessaja" on it) and this one that you keep referring to is an Enhanced-version (meaning it includes something additional and in this case it's the bonus track "Nessaja") which is released a few months later than the original (look at the date, July 2) Regards. --Harout72 (talk) 15:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you please provide a scan or photo of this elusive version of Encore without "Nessaja" on that only you seem to own? Have a look here at what is regarded as the most comprehensive Scooter discography on the Internet, and scroll down to Encore. There you will find five separate scans of track listings, all containing "Nessaja", even the cassette! The bone of contention that it's listed as a "Bonus Track" was to make it clear that it wasn't part of the live concert recording. The song had been Scooter's first German number one and so to capitalise on that it was tacked on the end of Encore when it was released not long after as an added incentive to buy.

Why you insist on disagreeing with Scooter's own discography, numerous websites and photos of actual CDs just because you've found one page where "Nessaja" has accidentally been left off the track list is a bizarre situation. Syxx (talk) 19:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

This is the best Scooter's fan-site durung last may be 7 or 8 years, I know autor of this site and he know personally some of ex-Scooter members (Axel Coon, Jay Frog) and if some release didn't include in this collection, this release is NOT exist. This is not "numerous websites"--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 19:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for providing this link, now let me also ask you this, why do you insist on the single "Nessaja" being off of the Encore when 24 Carat Gold was released not long before Encore-Live and Direct. And this, you can find within the discography link you provided yourself immediately below Encore, have a look at the date, perhaps then you will be convinced that "Nessaja" was added only later on the Enhanced-version of Encore (this, they do within music industry when sales decline faster than expected). --Harout72 (talk) 20:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Now you've lost me entirely. Here's the timeline:

• "Nessaja" released April [6]
• Encore released May [7]
• 24 Carat Gold released November [8]

I don't know how calendars work wherever you're from but traditionally November is many months after May so why you're saying 24 Carat Gold came out before Encore I have no earthly idea. There is no mythical enhanced special super smashing great deluxe rip-off edition of Encore it just came out on CD, including the beloved "Nessaja", and that was that. -Syxx (talk) 21:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Merger

Yes to merger. Logical Manitobamountie (talk) 17:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

No to merger Why just randomly merge the one Scooter single article into the band's page and leave all the other 16 singles' articles? Illogical if anything. Syxx (talk) 21:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes to merger of current article. Not every single needs a seperate article, if other singles have enough info and citations for an article, that has no bearing on whether this article should exist. The main reason to keep this is that it is a cover, but then it should be an article about the song, with equal weight to the 2 artists performing it, with the initial version first.Yobmod (talk) 20:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

No to merger. Illogical. Songs get their own pages, why single out one (and one of the more popular ones) to merge? I mean, it's not even going to be a merge, you're just going to delete it because that information can't go here. Some artists get pages to all their songs; Scooter doesn't have them all; why should we knock them down. To above: The Logical Song (Ramp) used to share a page with the original but they were separated. Logical Song was as much a cover as Maria was... I think. ILHI (talk) 21:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

No to merger. As ILHI & Syxx said--Oleg Abarnikov (talk) 19:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

No to mergerKilleroid (talk) 20:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Discography split

Scooter's discography is extensive even without all the remixes they've done. The whole section should be split off into a separate article. Opinions? - Bell'Orso (talk) 21:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I love it. Syxx (talk) 00:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

split is done. but the remixes are not to be included MOS:DISCOG Mister sparky (talk) 03:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Criticism section?

Should there be a section regarding the controversy the band causes in the worldwide dance community? Im sure there are lots of soucres. MindWraith (talk) 01:57, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea. There could also be mentioned, that the band released the track Posse under the pseudnoym Guess Who! and Nessaya under the pseudonym 3 A.M.. They did that to make fun of some electronic music magazines, because different Magazines like Raveline in Germany don't like Scooter and rated their tracks always very low. Knowing not that these tracks were from Scooter they gave them better ratings. 87.178.119.11 (talk) 15:20, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Lame edit wars ahoy (A.K.A. grammar confusion)

Whilst the opening line of the first version says "Scooter is", the rest of the article uses non-American English ("their more well-known hits", "their début single", "played their first live show") and has continued to do since then. One line in a five year old stub article hardly seems justification for suddenly Americanising the whole article.

According to the Manual of Style: An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the English of that nation. There are no American members in Scooter, the band has been to America about twice in their career and are not particularly big there. Whilst there are no British members in Scooter either, it is fair to say that they have stronger ties to that country than the U.S., what with 10 top 40 hits, a widely publicised number one album, numerous TV appearances, tours and even a single "Back in the U.K.". Syxx (talk) 13:44, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

• I agree, I don't like this text americanising.--Soul Train (talk) 11:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

"Their more well-known hits", "their début single", and "played their first live show" are all perfectly fine American English. Why would you think such phrases are non-American? Whether an article uses American or British English probably reflects the nationality of the editors. --JHP (talk) 06:50, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Ahh, I see the lame edit war of October 2009. American English can easily switch back and forth between "its" and "their". Take this little bit from the Green Day article: "Green Day is an American punk rock band formed in 1987. ... In 1994, its major label debut Dookie became a breakout success ... They have won four Grammy Awards..." --JHP (talk) 07:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Mark-One???

I found this in the former members section:

Mark-One (Mark Blundel/Mark Lee, Born 22 July 1973) - 2001-2004, DJ

Who is this guy? A google search shows nothing, and I have never heard of him. Can we find a source? --AlmanacManiac (talk) 03:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

• It's a fake.--Soul Train (talk) 10:22, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

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Greek genre warrior on the loose!!! - TECHNO obsessed IP

As some of the editors dealing with Scooter articles may know, these are all vandalized by a static IP vandal from Greece, with his first edits starting from July 25th. Until all the IP's are blocked, I will keep on reverting all the Scooter articles until his activity has been stopped. Same goes for the Sash! and Faithless articles too.

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Chapter

Where do all the chapters come from? I know Scooter's 2014 album is titled The Fifth Chapter, but I was wondering if bands themselves have defined their "chapters" officially? If not, I feel we probably shouldn't be using the device for this article. Humbledaisy (talk) 01:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

@Humbledaisy: I agree, so I've gone ahead and renamed the sections on their discography and will do so on this article as well. I assume it's a fan thing. Outside of The Fifth Chapter and their compilation Push the Beat for This Jam (The Second Chapter) I'm not sure where the "Chapters" have come from aside from the fan community (maybe their fans have "filled in the gaps" so to speak). Also, it's significant that the German version of the article (de:Scooter (Band)), has no mention of the "Chapters" in the headings. If they were official, I'd imagine the German Wiki would be the first place to have something about them. Ss112 15:06, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello!@Humbledaisy@Ss112

Seems like you guys are new to Scooter and never heard their music before, nor visit their official site or official social media. First of all, this "Chapter" term is not a fan thing, it's a Scooter ideology. So let's dive into a history of this band.

The first mention of the term Chapter was made when the co-founder of the band Ferris Bueller left it and was replaced by German DJ and producer Axel Coon in March of 1998 (roughly four years after they starter as a band). (Keep in mind, this was in pre-internet days, I can't provide you a link to the announcement.) Listen to the first single of the second chapter "How Much Is the Fish?" where you can find the line "It's the first page of the second chapter" (literally meaning the first single of the second chapter). Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbB3iGRHtqA

Note: "How Much Is The Fish?" is also the first track on the album No Time to Chill besides the intro.

Later it became some kind of a tradition of the band to change its third member and to get a new blood (someone who will bring fresh ideas and new sound).

So after another four years Axel Coon was replaced by Jay Frog in March of 2002. There was an announcement of a new chapter, which we can't find on the web archive nowadays, because the official site was using flash at that time. But again listen to the first track (besides the intro) on the album The Stadium Techno Experience, which is "Maria (I Like It Loud)" (the album version, not the single one!). It starts with lines: "Alright everybody, tie your shoes! The third chapter has just begun". Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80kFmUV6aOI

Four years later in August of 2006 Jay Frog was replaced by Michael Simon. And again the first single of that time frame "Behind the Cow" (and the first track on the album The Ultimate Aural Orgasm besides the intro) starts with the phrase: "In the year of the Lord 1994 we conquered the floor... That was then, this is chapter 4!", which clearly indicates the start of a new chapter. Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOklpQq-nU

Fortunately, this is the last time we can't find the official announcement of the band, because the official site dropped flash technology.

Some years later in January of 2014 the band co-founder Rick J. Jordan left the band and was replaced by an Austrian producer Phil Speiser. You can read the announcement on the official site using the web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20131027171323/http://scootertechno.com/gb-9--2-2-News.html

Or you can find the same announcement on the band's official facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/scooterofficial/posts/pfbid02CfUamcJEByc8w1MAeKUry6GNXHrfoUY4kFrtLPzo5mcunUkmBvw6vNHdHsPuXTeAl

The first single of that chapter "Bigroom Blitz" starts with the phrase "Chapter Five". No comments needed, I think. Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzas5qr_t9o

And as you have already noticed the whole album (on which that single was eventually released) is called The Fifth Chapter.

Note: Don't even ask why the fourth chapter weren't end in four years (like it was with the first three chapters), it was about to, but... long story short: Michael Simon was about to leave in early 2011 and to be replaced by Chris Avantgarde, the man who worked with the band for the single "The Only One", but something went wrong and Michael remained in the band.

In October of 2018 Phil Speiser was sacked from the band and was replaced with Etnik Zarari for the latter part of their 100% Scooter – 25 Years Wild & Wicked Tour.

The announcement about the tour continuation with a new member you can find here: https://www.facebook.com/scooterofficial/posts/pfbid09YdEKDMcEzUifZwets5qvUowQdYupRhNSkrZ456dLXM1ksM3yvXeUcLUaE12bdTjl

That was not the start of a new chapter, because on one gig of that tour H.P. said: "This is Chapter 5.2."

The Sixth chapter started when Etnik Zarari was replaced with Sebastian Schilde in March of 2019.

The announcement is on the following link: https://www.facebook.com/scooterofficial/posts/pfbid0nWxygbaQnAV1hiaPytj2VtB7MG4PfDY6QXC4necDSanYmGUi2QqvvM8qtbaHXpQhl

After the refrain in the first single of that chapter "Rave Teacher (Somebody Like Me)" you can hear the lines: "Yeah! Here we are! This is Chapter 6, yes!" Direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qlafoBY50

And finally at the end of the last year two band members Sebastian Schilde and (a bit later) Michael Simon left the band and were replaced by Jay Frog (who was already a member of the band in the time of the third chapter (2002-2006)) and Marc Blou (a young musician/producer from Germany), so the Seventh Chapter has started.

Link to the announcement on the official facebook page of the band: https://www.facebook.com/scooterofficial/posts/pfbid02rRFKx4rB65561t2M4Zrb64jskp5Mb8HJZ7Ztq5zQS3pQcC9HMGFgyi1phqLNkDM1l

In the first single of the chapter "Waste Your Youth" after the refrain you can hear the lines: "Yeah! This must be the place! To attack with the force of the bass! Reset! 7 is the number, the 8th wonder".

Also pay attention to the official lyric video for that single: there is a book with the page that says "The 7th chapter begins...": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRZdSu4UYCk

Seventh chapter is the most recent one.

So if all the info above wasn't enough I recommend you to leaf through the book that came with the compilation album 100% Scooter – 25 Years Wild & Wicked, where you will find an info about every chapter from first to fifth.

If you don't have one and don't want to buy the box set, you can see some YouTube videos with this book;

here (you can clearly see the time frames of the first two chapters, but the channel's author just skipped the latter ones): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHixMYcFips

or here (you can see the whole book, but the time frames are quite blurry): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLE1ylO11xE

and in case, if you think this book is unofficial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoffb5AQR0Y

All the rest you will find on the official website using web archive. The information about the recent Seventh Chapter is on the official site right now (see the 'band' section). How could you not find it is beyond my imagination...

So now I am asking you to put everything back on its place where it belongs, otherwise I will have to claim a vandalization from your side. Because as per Wikipedia you must discuss first and only then edit.

I hope the info above was useful and my time hasn't been wasted.

Best regards! Horseman16 (talk) 12:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

@Horseman16: "otherwise I will have to claim a vandalization from your side". You can "claim" whatever you like; it's not vandalism. Please see WP:VANDALISM: "Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism." Me reverting your unsourced claims (as none of this is on the article itself—there is still zero reliably sourced mention on Scooter (band) of the "Chapters") and retitling sections to more accurately reflect time periods rather than lyrical references is not "vandalism". I don't know where you think you're going to claim it's "vandalism" either—no admin is going to believe my edits are vandalism, so do go ahead and claim it. I made bold edits; I don't have to start a discussion to revert something that is unsourced. I suggest you find reliable sources rather than YouTube links to songs, or I will revert this again, per WP:V. You should not need to be prompted to add sourced material to an article. At the time you added mentions of their "Chapters", you should have added an explanation of where they come from. Neither me, nor Humbledaisy, nor any other editor should need to hunt around, including a suggestion from you to dig through the Wayback Machine to find proof of where these "Chapters" come from. Using what are literally only lyrical references to retitle sections and then telling us "How could you not find it is beyond my imagination" when you just said we would need to dig through archived versions of their website to even find what you're talking about—what ridiculousness. Ss112 14:40, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Put it better than I could, Ss112.Humbledaisy (talk) 18:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Ss112 First of all, did I offend you somehow? You sound like an offended person, but I can't even imagine, what did I do to you? I just tried to tell you a history of the band. I wanted my story to be interesting, but all I got in the end is your aggression. So tell me, was I offensive?

Now let's talk about chapters, shall we? Let's remember what was your message: "rename per concern raised at Talk:Scooter (band)#Chapter about the official-ness of the "Chapters"". You added on my talk page: "If these [chapters] are fan-derived, as I assume they are, <...> we should not use them as they are not "official"". So this should come from the band itself. I got you. I'm going to make references to chapters, when I get my hands on the book 100% Scooter – 25 Years Wild & Wicked (it is at another house at the moment). Horseman16 (talk) 05:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, your use of the word "vandalization" instead of the correct "vandalism", and the idea that an edit you disagree with is "vandalism" and you were going to "claim" it was this somewhere and anybody would take it seriously greatly offended me. And great, I await you adding a reliably sourced, encyclopedically written explanation on the article about where the "Chapter" titling comes from. Please do not forget to do this, because I won't. In case it needs to be said, editors here will not accept YouTube links to the songs as sources on the article nor the way you presented the information above. It's fine to mention that Scooter have made lyrical references to their "Chapters" but it needs to be more substantial than a line-by-line lyric breakdown. Ss112 14:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I am genuinely sorry! I am not a native English speaker and sometimes it’s difficult to express everything perfectly in a short period of time, especially now, that I got flu. I am upset that I offended you and I am regret about it.

As I promised I made references to the chapters. I wanted to make explanation regarding these references, but let me do this tomorrow. Today I had a very busy day, and now I feel exhausted. Horseman16 (talk) 18:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Main producer

When talking about the 6th Chapter of Scooter,it is said that Jay Frog rejoined the group as the main producer. But on the band members list, Marc Blou is credited as the main producer instead. 31.22.149.99 (talk) 02:23, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

"Legal Issues" plagiarism

It appears the entirety of the "Legal Issues" section has been plagiarised from https://www.kyivpost.com/post/8755. SaturnHippo (talk) 05:15, 2 February 2024 (UTC)