Talk:Safety data sheet

Latest comment: 3 years ago by DD in topic Changes to SDS in the EU

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Good afternoon, It appears that someone has logged in and put unnecessary comments and characters on one of your pages.....This is where is see it.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_safety_data_sheetes.

The above unsigned comment was posted 18:33, 2 February 2007 by 142.33.66.50 Pzavon 01:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

No they haven't

Pzavon 01:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Internationalization edit

I've reverted your changes to the MSDS article, despite the obvious effort you put into them. MSDS are not only a US required document. Under the same name, but with diferent format requirements, they are specified in Canada and the EU. The article was reasonably evenhanded in discussing all those jurisdictions until you edited it to make it very heavilly specific to the US. I don't believe that was appropriate. We are told Wikipedia articles should be more global, not less. Pzavon 21:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

I was trying to internationalize the article. The article seemed to me to indicate that the other countries had different names for their sheets and that they weren't the same as the US sheets. What do these other countries call their sheets? If we want an article about chemical information in general what name do we use? --Gbleem 21:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Canada calls them "Materials Safety Data Sheets" but is much more specific than the US as to how they are to be formatted. The UK also uses the term "Material Safety Data Sheet," as do a number of other countries, usually using the direct translation in their own languages rather than the English words. But this is an article in the English Language Wikipedia and should use the English term, which is MSDS.
Everyone is probably going to move toward calling them simply "Safety Data Sheets" as the Globally Harmonized System for Classification of Chemicals (GHS) is rolled out world-wide.
For now the term "Material Safety Data Sheet" has international recognition and I would leave the article titled that way until the influence of the GHS is more stongly felt.
Oh! The article gives the different names in different countries for the legislative acts that establish the requirement for an MSDS, not different names for the MSDS themselves.
Pzavon 02:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

An SDS and an MSDS (and I presume PSDS but I have not used a PSDS) are not the same thing. The serve the same role but are different formats. The SDS is (or supposed to be) a more globally standardized format. In the US all MSDS forms had to be replaced by SDS forms before June 2015 and to the best of my knowledge, most other countries have/are making the transition from their local formatting to the SDS. Jasoninkid (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Capitalisation edit

A discussion began on Wikipedia talk:Chemical infobox#Capitalisation about whether to use title case ("Material Safety Data Sheet") when talking about these documents. Is this a plain-English descriptive phrase, or is it a more formal/technical title for these documents? DMacks (talk) 16:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

The term is generally used as a title. I always write it as MSDS, never msds, and I generally write it out fully in title case. I've just never thought it worth the trouble to try to get the title of this article changed. Pzavon (talk) 01:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

GHS in Canada edit

CSST has a few documents about WHMIS being modified to fit into GHS. THis is what I based my assertion on. I remember seeing some federal documents as well, those will have the advantage of being available in English as well. Looking. --Valmi 21:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I am sure these will be interesting, but they will not be more than discussion and speculation until actual changes to the regulations are formally proposed. Pzavon (talk) 00:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Suppliers in the ... edit

Doesn't this topic - if not the page itself - need Suppliers in the US, Suppliers in Europe, Suppliers in the ... etc. lists? Dirk2112 18:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Late reply but in short, no, as Wikipedia is not a directory. Tomásdearg92 (talk) 01:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hyperlink in First line edit

I don't know if anyone has taken notice, but PSDS is hyperlinked to "PSDS (Persatuan Sepakbola Deli Serdang) is an Indonesian football team based in Deli Serdang, North Sumatra.".... Which is most likely not what we are going for here. Super-c-sharp (talk) 16:38, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Good catch! That link was added only recently, I guess editor didn't notice it wasn't what was expected there. I unlinked it. In the future, "Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit", so feel free to fix any problems you find. DMacks (talk) 16:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

SALAM MAN HASTI HASTAM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.182.180.89 (talk) 15:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

MSDS is not known as COSHH edit

In the UK we have MSDS sheets which go hand in hand with COSHH assessments. These are 2 completely seperate forms. The COSHH assessment is a form of risk assessment for the use of a substance for a specific task and is compiled for each individual task a substance would be used for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.251.222.134 (talk) 16:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Move to Safety Data Sheet edit

One of the goals of the United Nations Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals (GHS, guide) is the harmonization of the subject of this article worldwide, using the name Safety Data Sheet (SDS, annex on preparing SDSs). It appears that several other countries have changed the name of such sheets to SDS, including:

The US deadline for manufacturers to convert from the use/publication of MSDSs to SDSs, which use a different format, is June 1, 2015. The wording of the EU reference also mentions changes effective June 1. The US, Canada, and Australia references all note that SDSs were previously known as MSDSs in these countries. Given that the SDS is the new, harmonized term for such documents in accordance with the GHS and used in the largest English-speaking countries, the page should be moved to Safety data sheet. AHeneen (talk) 07:20, 28 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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History edit

I think it would be nice to have a section on the history of MSDS, like when were they first used, how did they develop, which countries were the early adopters, etc. --Westwind273 (talk) 23:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Changes to SDS in the EU edit

Hello everybody, It appears that some sections have changed in 2020 (for the EU at least), a.o. Addition of new sub-section, 12.6 Endocrine disrupting properties and Old sub section 12.6 ‘Other adverse effects’ now becomes 12.7. Source: Official Journal Annex II June 2020. However, i don't know how to correct this in this article. Maybe somebody could do that?

User:DD 19:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.221.150.236 (talk) Reply