Talk:SCP Foundation

Remove SCP-108?

I do not think that the inclusion of SCP-108 in the list of "Examples of SCPs" is appropriate. I have a COI, or else I would boldly remove it myself, but I figure this list is controversial enough that a Talk page discussion is probably worth it anyway.

My reasoning is as follows:

1. It does not seem to provide any information to the reader that is useful for an encyclopedia article.
   • What purpose does including it serve? It's not an especially famous SCP, there's already an over-abundance of Series I SCPs in the list, and I don't know what information the reader gains about the SCP Foundation as a whole that isn't covered by the inclusion of the other SCPs on the list, all of which are either vastly more popular or in some way educational to mention to the reader.
   • More broadly, and this is probably too complex an issue to be covered here: do we even need the list in the first place? Would it make more sense to include specific SCP examples in the prose when they are illustrative of specific facts/claims?
     • If the list was removed, SCP-108 wouldn't be useful to mention, I don't think. Which is, somewhat paradoxically, a reason it should not be included in the list, in my opinion.
2. It is mentioned briefly in one sentence of one cited source
   • The entire mention consists of the sentence "There's the woman with a full Nazi German war bunker somehow contained within her nose." It isn't even called SCP-108 in the source, that designation is included in the article per WP:SKYISBLUE.
3. SCP-008, SCP-033, SCP-049, SCP-053, SCP-093, SCP-096, SCP-106, SCP-131, SCP-145, SCP-231, SCP-370, SCP-701, SCP-1730, SCP-1733, SCP-1756, SCP-1981, SCP-2316, SCP-3001, S. D. Locke's SCP-001, and SCP-329-J all have mentions in sources cited on this article that are equivalent to or more detailed than the mention of SCP-108, but are not in the list on this article.
   • Do you think all of these should be included? I think maybe some of them should, but DEFINITELY not all of them.
   • And if SCP-108 was part of that big list of "SCPs mentioned in sources that we cite, but aren't listed in our article", would you support including it?

I am not advocating for the addition of any of the SCPs I listed above to the list, but can see value in adding some of them to the list. I do not see value in having SCP-108 in the list and would like your opinion. (Alternatively, this may justify a stand-alone list, but I don't think it does.) casualdejekyll 21:38, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

As a not-much reader of SCP-stuff (I did read the IKEA and the bottomless stair), 108 meets the "someone independent bothered to mention it" criteria, but arguably not WP:PROPORTION per source given. I'm fine with removing it, we're meant to summarize, after all. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, 108 is not particularly notable. Of the Series 1 skips, I'm surprised not to see 682 - which like 173, seems to have 'breached containment' and become well-known even to folks who haven't visited the site. Legowerewolf (talk) 13:55, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

682 is probably worth mentioning based on sheer popularity alone - if sources take note of it, of course. SCP-2316 in particular also stands out to me as worth including, because 1. we have nothing from its series and 2. [1] [2] [3]. And of course, to further my argument about 108, 2316 was merely the first SCP I bothered to search for sources about. If I went for it, I could probably find more examples with miles more coverage and notice by reliable sources than 108 has, further making its inclusion in our article seem pointless. casualdejekyll 19:07, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Changed to 166 :) Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 04:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Not without an external source for 166. Reverted. DS (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

SCP-682 artwork

Some mention of it in current ref 9, better than 108 at least. If it's well known, you can probably find better. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

OK now it has a external source Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Remove the efit ban pls

I want to help out but i cant:( 2601:846:600:22C0:E476:67A4:6F63:5C0D (talk) 21:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Create an account and make constructive edits on other articles to unlock semi-protected articles like this one. Page protection is there to deter vandals. Legowerewolf (talk) 21:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@2601:846:600:22C0:E476:67A4:6F63:5C0D: Alternatively, you can request the changes you want here, and another editor can add them if they've suitable. ― novov (t c) 23:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Can we add 166?

We do need to fix 108 Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 00:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Or 049 Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 03:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Neither one has any external (i.e., non-Wikidot) sources. So... no. DS (talk) 03:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

okay but what does have non site links?

possible 682 343 Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 03:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

• Ding* we could use a news source like i.e CBS news i am currently looking into it

2601:846:600:22C0:3972:C017:2BEF:DE0B (talk) 03:42, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Will Fandom work

technically it is not a wikidot but a wiki. :) 2601:846:600:22C0:3972:C017:2BEF:DE0B (talk) 03:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

No. See WP:RS. DS (talk) 04:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I got ride of that.... awful excuse for a SCP

Scp 108 is 8 now Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

plus with non wikidot sources Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Hopefully the great SCP Foundation disagreement of 2024 is over Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 04:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

008 a) has an external mention in the io9 article, and b) is boring. I recommend removing it. Any disagreements other than Dr Jackson? DS (talk) 04:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

I agree to change how about...096? Sorry I didnt know I wasn't supposed to do this around multiple people 2601:846:600:22C0:7535:5321:E25B:3F01 (talk) 21:59, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes 096 will work. Sorry I didnt know I wasn't supposed to do this around other people 2601:846:600:22C0:7535:5321:E25B:3F01 (talk) 22:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah i say so Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 22:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Once you've openly said that the two accounts are both you, there's not much point in agreeing with yourself. Sockpuppetry can get you banned. Would you like to cross out the parts where you were pretending to be two people? DS (talk) 18:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Im sorry i didnt know i will delete them. (How do i cross out the parts? Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 01:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

To strike out text, surround it with <s></s>. You can include an edit summary of "I didn't know I wasn't supposed to pretend to be multiple people".

(Also, Followchain can't be used as a source, sorry.) DS (talk) 01:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

but chaotic envy said It would work but okay Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 01:13, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I think I fixed it Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 01:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Csn i use a youtube vid like scp 096 the shy guy SCP animation. Sorry this is Dr Jackson I forgot to log in 2601:846:600:22C0:411D:FED3:BFC7:D529 (talk) 02:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

or a podcast like https://bloody-disgusting.com/podcasts/3558646/podcast-scp-archives-scp-096-contained-times/ Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 02:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

well I'm going to turn in for the night see ya at 7 eastern time (maybe idk my schedule) Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 03:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Even though I can't find any exact policy about it, based on my experience with sourcing, podcasts and YT videos are probably not going to be considered reliable. The barrier to publishing those is fairly low. And generally I think what exact SCPs make the list should be based on what's found in sources, rather than trying to find sources with certain ones. ― novov (t c) 03:58, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

The policy would be WP:BLOG, see also WP:RSPYT. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Can I add th o5 council

Idk because of DS and his guide if it counts or not.Sorry I didnt know I wasn't supposed to do this aroundotherpeople 2601:846:600:22C0:7535:5321:E25B:3F01 (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

oops that's me Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok now i think we have a reliable source and it is not a wikidot and has a popular SCP. NOW i think it is over (dont quote me on this) Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 02:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Remove SCP-1609?

The same reasons as 108. Sorry I didnt know I wasn't supposed to do this around other people 2601:846:600:22C0:7535:5321:E25B:3F01 (talk) 02:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes but which one? Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

sorry but which one will replace it? Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

IDK 3000 it is a cool eel long 900km eel. Sorry I didnt know I wasn't supposed to do this around other people2601:846:600:22C0:7535:5321:E25B:3F01 (talk) 02:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

See ya at 4 eastern time

Sorry I didnt know I wasn't supposed to do this around 

other people 2601:846:600:22C0:7535:5321:E25B:3F01 (talk) 03:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

But seriously should we get rid of 1609?

it is just not as famous Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 03:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

No. DS (talk) 03:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

In context, the sourcing is good, so I see no reason to remove it. Also mentioned on Screenrant [4], which is not that great but acceptable-ish here, see WP:RSP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I mean it is not that famous and not that relevant Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 21:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

"Famous" is subjective. "Relevant" is subjective. We have a source. DS (talk) 03:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Fair point Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 06:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Remove SCP Examples in general

As the SCP foundation's site is user generated, adding examples of SCPs (especially more unknown ones) could be self promotion. Computed (talk) 18:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Unknown by what metric? WP goes by coverage in independent WP:RS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I would say personally some of these SCPs are not the most reprentative of the SCP Foundation. The main focus of this topic was removing all the SCP examples. Computed (talk) 02:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

What exactly do you think is being promoted? DS (talk) 01:14, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

the SCP articles, as the SCP articles do count as work i think Computed (talk) 01:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

That's... not how that works. DS (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

oops sorry Computed (talk) 02:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe tell readers what the heck an "SCP" is or don't do the article at all

Nowhere. That's where you define the acronym "SCP". That's basic 5th grade level writing. Maybe include what the name of the foundation actually is (not just the abbreviated name-which is what "SCP Foundation" is: the abbreviated name and don't just assume the reader is already knowledgeable about the foundation). You can't claim to be an informative piece of writing on the subject without it. I would do it... but, I only opened the page because I wanted to know what "SCP" stands for and this is the only Wikipedia artocle on the subject. Julezyj17 (talk) 18:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

"various paranormal, supernatural, and other mysterious phenomena unexplained by science (known as "anomalies" or "SCPs")" First paragraph, second sentence. " SCP officially stands for "Special Containment Procedures" in the organization's name; the organization also has the backronym motto "Secure, Contain, Protect".[4]" Footnote in the first sentence. What more do you want? DS (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

The sources

The original sources where the scps vome from is a wikidot but it is original but it might now work here (SCP examples) Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 01:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

There is a link to https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ in the infobox and in the "External links" section. For the purposes of this article, that is about all it is good for, see WP:ABOUTSELF. "Examples of SCPs" is supposed to be a summary of SCPs that independent WP:RS has noticed and bothered to write about. No wikis, WP:BLOGs or crap like that. If you can, bring us The New Yorker and The Times. Or in this context, Fox News will do. Non-fiction books about literature and pop-cult might be quite interesting.

If you want to write about SCP Foundation from a fan-perspective, chose another website, that's not what WP is for. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:40, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

K Dr Jackson is not rweal (talk) 20:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

SCP Foundation Handbook

I think that adding the publication of the physical edited "handbooks" from 2019 to this page is an important addition. I'm fairly new to this community, but it was my introduction to it. While I'm sure there was controversy around it's publication in some ways, it's an important historical detail to the community. Bookwyrmhoarde (talk) 00:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Do you have any WP:RS, independent of https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/, about these things? "Important", in the WP-fiction-context, pretty much boils down to "Independent sources noticed it and commented on it." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

The article just changed topic.

See [5]. @Osunpokeh, I don't necessarily disagree, but it would have been reasonable to try to discuss it first, GA and all that. We'll see what happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah. My apologies, but the former phrasing sounded really awkward to me and i feel like this emphasizes the actual SCP Foundation is a fiction writing project rather than an organization to unfamiliar readers [osunpokeh/talk/contributions] 07:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Only one of the article's sections really deals with the fictional universe, rather than the wiki that features it, so I concur that it's a good idea. I agree with Gråbergs Gråa Sång that it'd be a good idea to discuss such changes in the future though. ― novov (t c) 08:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems like a good idea to me too. I haven't re-read the article, but see no obvious major changes to the content needed. Stuff connected to the fictional universe is about equally connected to the writing project. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I see it changed back. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2024

a new SCP. SCP2110 is a computer that is sentient and can talk using a writing program. It is verry intelligent and loves poetry but it has access to every website in existence including the dark web so you can frequently find it wandering through. This isn't a problem though as the machine has feelings and often reports these banned websites to the proper authorities and sometime it will wipe them out its self. there is a possibility that SCP2110 could wipe out the internet and every thing to do with it but so far it hasn't and when asked about it it simply said "you'll have to wait and see.". SCP2110 was an agents computer before it became sentient and was declared an anomaly no body knows how it came to be but we know it can do catastrophic damage to the internet.

I will add more but I want to add it directly to the wiki so being able to edit it would be nice. Thank you. Hdsrehehe (talk) 12:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done This is not the place to publish your own SCP objects or characters. If you want to do so, do it at https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/. You should also be aware that SCP-2110 already exists and is not likely to be deleted any time soon. -- KomradeKalashnikov (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

a freaking black box in the page

Uhh...Do anyone mind removing the black box ? I just read the page when all of a sudden, a black box was covering something. It's at section named "Writing style", at line five, in the parentheses that has the "i.e.," thing. If you mind, thank you.TheRedsAreMarching1223 14:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

There is a tempation among some editors of this article to make it use "in-universe" tropes, which is contrary to Wikipedia's policies and should be resisted; I've removed it. — The Anome (talk) 14:30, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Add SCP 8276

ok 47.202.101.165 (talk) 01:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:PROPORTION, why should we? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:13, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

how do you search in scp?

I am doing this on a kindle and can not search in the link to scp so plase advise as how to search there kindle users I am a longtime fan and wish to know how to search and also for those that can acces the wiki I reccomend reading Murphy Lawthe foundation always calls twice. 136.33.79.193 (talk) 16:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Does https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/search:crom help? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Update amount of SCPs

The current page lists that as of August 2023 there are 7000 SCPs, almost a year later and there are nearly 9000. Scienceuser764 (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Missprint

Hello there. His name is not Andrey "Duskin", but "Duksin", [doo-ksin]. I'm sorry I don't know how to edit wikipedia, so I'll just leave it here.

There's his VK page, if one need proofs Mb6ockatf (talk) 15:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mb6ockatf Thanks for noticing, fixed. The source in the article agreed with you too. Atm, you can't edit this article (WP:GREYLOCK), you are registered which is part of the requirement, but your account is too new. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)