Talk:Oxidative addition
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Added mechanism section, which discusses the four main mechanisms of oxidative addition in organometallic systems. --Tycarter (talk) 03:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Attempts to block content development:
editOne blocked. Let's see about the rest. Such a shame, but they brought it upon themselves. I've tried to contact their in-charge, User talk:Ajm_mich, but it doesn't help either. WP is not a noticeboard to put up these school projects. Sorry, venting, but I'm pissed off. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 01:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that the students and professor erred in thinking that they can just upload their school project. They probably do not work with this medium and are assuming that Wikipedia is just a dumb upload site like Utube. They have some useful material, but it is not that great. We are coming to the end of semester for US system, so you can expect to see several such episodes. Possibly the prof or one or so students will agree to work with us and expand select sections. You now can see why it is easier for some faculty to have their students draft articles on semi-obscure compounds. --Smokefoot (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tycarter (talk • contribs)
- This article was written by students at the University of Michigan (and the contact in-charge that you mention is from Michigan State). The contact for these articles is User: MichChemGSI. Chem507f10grp3 (talk) 04:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Mech discussion
editI was trying to edit this bit, but User:Tycarter disagrees. Maybe we can discuss? "Concerted This mechanism is often observed for the activation of homonuclear diatomic molecules such as H2 and N2 as well as for highly strained ring systems such as cyclopropanes. Many C–H activation reactions also follow a concerted mechanism through the formation of an M–(C–H) agostic complex."
- Focusing on the two italicized parts:
- Usually chemists dont observe concerted reactions. They infer them. Sort of a matter of taste I guess.
- The latter statement implies oxidative addition of N2, which is silly thing to say, or the English is garbled inadvertently somehow.
--Smokefoot (talk) 01:15, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
- I came here because I noticed the suggestion of oxidative addition of N2 and found the above post from Smokefoot... and unless I have missed some breakthrough in organometallic chemistry, nitrogen binding to metal centres does not occur by oxidative addition. Cl2 would be a more appropriate second example. Also, the text should recognise that only some homonuclear diatomics oxidatively add. Tycarter, do you know of an example of N2 oxidative addition? EdChem (talk) 03:50, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- I removed the N2 bit and the quite esoteric cyclopropane bit, cyclopropane addn is not a big deal. Tycarter - ask your teacher if you dont understand what we are doing or we can expand the discussion at greater length here. --Smokefoot (talk) 16:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- I came here because I noticed the suggestion of oxidative addition of N2 and found the above post from Smokefoot... and unless I have missed some breakthrough in organometallic chemistry, nitrogen binding to metal centres does not occur by oxidative addition. Cl2 would be a more appropriate second example. Also, the text should recognise that only some homonuclear diatomics oxidatively add. Tycarter, do you know of an example of N2 oxidative addition? EdChem (talk) 03:50, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Reductive Elimination
editTheres not much on reductive elimination and the link just redirects back to this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eggilicious (talk • contribs) 09:15, 21 February 2012 (UTC)