Talk:Oldest people

Who controls the content?

I always thought a Wiki page was for anyone to contribute, but I've noticed with several of these "Oldest People" wikis that DerbyCounty seems to run roughshod over everyone and everything else. Who appointed her in charge? Serious question. She seems to think it's her way or the highway. Wiki is supposed to be open for everyone. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 01:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Pinging @DerbyCountyinNZ so they see this, she has a right to explain herself. Maurnxiao (talk) 19:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

You whiny longevity fans are really pathetic. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment on content, not on the contributor, per WP:NPA. Maurnxiao (talk) 23:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't usually bother responding to users who have a new profile for less than a week but seem familiar with Wikipedia guidelines, it makes me think they've got something to hide. I'm also pretty cynical of someone with a user with no previous interest in longevity (it suggests CANVASS) who decides to extend and aggravate an otherwise pointless thread which I was happy to ignore, especially given that it is (another) barely veiled personal attack!! DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

And yet you responded. This condescending attitude is completely uncalled for and there is no need to throw personal attacks to someone reminding you to remain respectful to someone else. Already I have been criticized on another discussion for not having a thorough enough understanding of what Wikipedia is meant to be. I pinged you because, as I said, you had a right to explain yourself. Considering you responded to the original comment hours after I pinged you, but had not done so in a nearly one month period after the comment was made, I have reason to believe bringing it to your attention was the right thing to do. How would you know if I am interested in longevity records? Maurnxiao (talk) 23:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I was quite happy to WP:IGNORE a thread that fully deserved to be ignored. If you had/have no interest in this topic, WHY did you bother to even comment? DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't need to be interested in baseball to contribute to an article about the sport, or a corresponding talk page. And again, how would you know if I do or do not have an interest in longevity? Maurnxiao (talk) 23:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Your current profile (care to list any previous ones you've used?) has been here 6 days. In that time you've never contributed to a longevity article. So "by chance" you happened to come across this talk page and decided to reactivate a thread which every other regular contributor to this article had chosen to ignore. You then dish out a NPA while choosing to ignore the fact that the thread topic is a PA, and is not the first by this editor, whose contributions to longevity have largely been a waste of (my) time. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

For less experienced editors unfamiliar with acronyms, PA & NPA both refer to Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Peaceray (talk) 00:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, ad hominem attacks are beneath you, particularly when you seem to be intelligent enough to educate less experienced editors on Wikipedia policies & guidelines & the importance of notability & sourcing as per WP:LONGEVITY. After all, WP:DONTBITE is a behavioral guideline.

As for GermanShepherd1983, if you had bothered to check you would have found an editor registration date of 2016-10-12. OK, so not exactly extended confirmed with 60 edits, but do we need to further the disrespect?Peaceray (talk) 23:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I'd just like to know who put DerbyCounty in charge of this page? You totally act like a bully when it comes to what stays and what goes? Totally inappropriate on your part. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 18:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Bible's Noah allegedly lived ~950 years

If The Holy Bible is considered a reliable source, Noah surpassed Jeanne Calment's record by 828 years.

84.49.158.188 (talk) 20:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

See Longevity myths. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA thomasmazzotta 14:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Georgina Casamayor de Medina

So why isn't GRG getting Georgina Casamayor de Medina validated? She's currently the 10th oldest person in the world. Seems GRG never gets anything done. Sad.

https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/Georgina_Ramona_Casamayor_de_Medina GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 00:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Additional early WOLM titleholders

Here are some additional early WOLM ("world's oldest living man" titleholders):

https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/World%27s_Oldest_Man_titleholders

You can check which ones of them were validated by professional gerontology/longevity organizations, though I think that at least Benjamin Garner has recently been validated by the Gerontology Research Group. 172.59.128.60 (talk) 05:12, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Benjamin Garner is indeed validated by the GRG here: https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/2024-validations/ His validation is a very recent one. 172.59.128.60 (talk) 22:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Johnson Parks disputed

Johnson Parks has been disputed here:

https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/hk7fb

Basically, the argument here is that his verification was based on a mistaken identity switch with another African-American man named Johnson Parks who was born a decade earlier than he himself was born. 172.59.128.60 (talk) 05:14, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe you could say that Zak and Gibbs are unreliable because they also previously disputed Calment. However, Calment's validation was subsequently re-confirmed by gerontology researchers, whereas I don't see anyone to my knowledge willing to defend the Parks validation right now. 172.59.128.60 (talk) 05:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)