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Update

Added referencing and cleaned up historical context, added infobox. Historically this is a Mid level importance page. User:G_Moore Talk 21:38, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Sources

• Early Council of State history -Indy beetle (talk) 02:06, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Potential sources

• Government research report, 1986 -Indy beetle (talk) 05:38, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:North Carolina Council of State/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: NSNW (talk · contribs) 04:05, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

This one will start soon as well. NSNW (talk) 04:05, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Prose

Lead

• "The Council of State includes the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, State Auditor, Treasurer, Superintendent of Public Instruction, Attorney General, Commissioner of Agriculture, Commissioner of Labor and Commissioner of Insurance."; continue the Oxford comma with one more after 'Commissioner of Labor'.
  • Done.
• "Under North Carolina's first constitution as a state of the United States the Council of State comprised seven persons"; add a comma after 'United States'.
  • Done.

History

• "The president, in their legislative capacities, also signed all laws passed by the legislature"; improper use of a plural tense, that being 'capacities', which in this context should be 'capacity'.
  • Done.
• "A new constitution was adopted in 1868, and provided for Council of State to comprise six popularly-elected executive officials"; this doesn't sound right, rewrite 'and provided for Council of State to comprise six' as 'and provided that the Council of State should comprise of six'.
  • Done.
• "Council of State could disapprove of and block decisions of the governor"; article misusage, change it to 'block the decisions of the governor'.
  • Done.
• "Janice H. Faulkner was the first woman to serve on council"; another article misusage, should be 'the council'.
  • Done.

Structure

• "All serve as the chief executive of their own departments."; 'own' is redundant, remove it.
  • Changed to "respective".
• "They are elected to four year terms"; hyphenate 'four year'.
  • Done.
• "Contested elections for any of these offices are resolved by joint vote of the General Assembly"; missing an 'a' after 'resolved by'.
  • Done.
• "The council retains a staff which records the minutes of each meeting"; add a comma after 'staff'.
  • Done.

That's all I've got. Another nice job. NSNW (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

• @NSNW: I've responded to your comments. -Indy beetle (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

  Good. Passing NSNW (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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• Article history

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• ... that the North Carolina Council of State is the collective body of 10 elective offices of the executive branch of the government of North Carolina including the Governor? Source: In the article
  • ALT1: ... that the North Carolina Council of State is a holdover from the 1700s Province of North Carolina and includes 10 elective offices including the Governor? Source: North Carolina's "first constitution, ratified in December (1776), provided for a Council of State" [1] North Carolina Manual 2011, pp. 137–138
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bernard Rwehururu

Improved to Good Article status by Indy beetle (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 20:32, 5 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/North Carolina Council of State, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Began reviewing for DYK

good article on January 31, 2023, 8179 characters (1289 words) "readable prose size", 29 references cited inline, Earwig stated that copyvios were unlikely; primarily multi-word phrases which aren't a problem. Hook is NOT interesting, which is a primary requirement for DYK. Added alt1 hook; asked nominator to approve or supply their own.

QPQ was Bernard Rwehururu.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgreason (talk • contribs) 16:41, 2023 February 14 (UTC) Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 21:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Adding query tag as ALT1 needs to be independently approved. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Actually, this needs a new reviewer to approve ALT1. I have adjusted the DYK checklist to reflect the fact that the original hook was not considered to be interesting, and changed the status therein accordingly. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:49, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't think "holdover" is really a great way to describe the Council of State as it relates to history. Sure, the body originated in colonial governance (as did the office of governor and the office of secretary of state) but to call it a mere holdover I think dismisses it in a way I don't think accurately reflects what the sources say about this body. -Indy beetle (talk) 09:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that Elaine Marshall is the first woman elected to the North Carolina Council of State in its 246-year existence? source — Maile (talk) 20:04, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:46, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Uh, I think something went wrong with the wikimarkup. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:45, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

ALT 2 approved.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 00:19, 11 April 2023 (UTC)