Talk:Nicholas Alahverdian

Latest comment: 17 days ago by LearnMore2024! in topic Query

Move edit

I have, per WP:BRD moved this to Nicholas Rossi. I realize that about 9 months ago there was requested move that was decided as no consensus. Not many people participated. The rationale stated that most of the coverage used the name Nicholas Rossi. Since then there has been a lot of media coverage, and the vast majority has continued to use Rossi. I think it is obvious that Rossi is the common name, but if you think that is not the case, please revert and we will have a formal RM. Thanks!! Slp1 (talk) 18:40, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

This was published yesterday and calls him Alahverdian. A no consensus close on an RM is usually a good indication that a future one will be needed rather than being bold. Primefac (talk) 18:56, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
yes, you are correct that two news organizations have continued to use Alahverdian in the last 24 hours, whereas the BBC [1] the Times [2], ITV news [3], Scottish media [4][5][6] channel 4 [7], Sky[8] (and the court) uses Rossi. And if you go back a bit further the FT [9], CNN [10], the Guardian [11] Washington Post [12]. But yes, let's have a RM!! Slp1 (talk) 19:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
The sources seem pretty evenly split to me, and most of them give both names. Alahverdian is his birth name – Rossi was the name of his stepfather that he used for a few years. It is unclear whether he ever legally changed his name (some sources say he was adopted, but afaik that doesn't necessarily mean a legal name change), but by the time he sued the DCYF in 2011 he was using Alahverdian again. – bradv 21:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have followed this case for three years now and over the course of developments, U.S. media, especially in Rhode Island and Ohio, referred to him by "Alahverdian". I always thought that "Rossi" was a name he used to avoid scrutiny, as an alias. I wouldn't be surprised if media organizations in the UK used Rossi but in coverage on the East Coast, he was Nicholas Alahverdian. This is the view I'd express if there was another RM discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Just found this news story from today that mentions that he has converted to Judaism while in jail. No comment on that. Liz Read! Talk! 02:29, 28 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
And according to legal proceedings this week, he's returning to the U.S. to face charges. Liz Read! Talk! 21:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

"His Fake Death Plan Didn't Work": MoistCr1TiKaL covers the Nicholas Alahverdian story edit

Thought this 10-minute overview was of interest: Video on YouTube (20 minutes ago, damn I'm swift!). *WPO wave* El_C 02:27, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

DNA edit

Just to be clear, he went to the hospital in Scotland for COVID, and they checked his DNA in international databases? What law gives them that right? I don't care about the crimes. But if they are just sampling DNA from every patient, that is crazy! 79.106.203.62 (talk) 13:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Nowhere in the article does it say that. His fingerprints were flagged when he was brought to hospital. DNA was only taken later after he was in custody. Primefac (talk) 14:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Query edit

I realize that Talk pages are not forums to discuss the article subject but Nicholas Alahverdian was extradicted over 2 months ago back to the United States and I wonder if anyone has come across news of what has happened since then. He had a lot of charges filed against him. I believe the Rhode Island newspaper requires a subscription but I know some editors who have followed this case have access to their archives. Thanks for any update you can supply. Liz Read! Talk! 19:14, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Here's the most recent thing I have seen:[13]. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 19:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Courts move at the speed of sloth in the States; I'd be surprised if he even had a trial date set before 2025. Primefac (talk) 19:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Mr. Rossi is facing two separate felony rape charges in two different districts in Utah, District 3 and District 4 and Primefac is right, courts can run very slow.
Below are the links to the judges court dates. All action to date has been pre-trial in nature.
On Friday, April 19th, he is expected to appear in the 3rd Distict Court. https://legacy.utcourts.gov/cal/search.php?t=p&c=&p=ROSSI&j=&f=&l=&b=&d=2024-04-19&loc=all is the link to search for the info.
In the 3rd District, the judge's last name is Lawrence. He has a lawyer for this trial. He has asked this judge to have the jail refer to him by the name of Arthur Knight. The judge indicated he would not direct the jail to do so, as the paperwork has the name of Alahverdian/Rossi. The judge informally volunteered he would refer to him as Arther Knight in the court.
For the 4th district, here is the link for the next appointment which is May 14th. There was a hearing earlier this week, and it was extended for another month for a final chance to work out paying for the lawyer he had retained to date. Mr Rossi tried make several separate motions during the hearing, but the judge did not allow it. This is the second extension regarding the lawyer being paid. Link is: Court Calendar Search Results - Utah Courts (utcourts.gov). The judge is Pullan. LearnMore2024! (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply