Talk:Nexus 7 (2012)/Archive 1

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Material archived from the Nexus 7 (2012 version) talk page. (28 June 2012 - 31 July 2013)

Criticism

The following are some downsides of the Nexus 7 (already stated by reviewers):

• No microSD slot. Current 16GB model isn't enough for people who watch movies.
• 3.5mm jack on bottom edge. Could cause damage when listening with earbuds / headphones. Still it is better to have the jack than not have it.
• No cellular, WiMAX, 802.11a.
• No docking connector.

• Sbmeirow • Talk • 10:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

• About docking connector :
  • There is one. A 4-points connector on the bottom-left side of the Nexus 7. You see it by example on http://www.google.com/intl/ALL_ALL/nexus/#/7/features , picture http://www.google.com/nexus/a-images/tablet-n7-features-hand.png .
  • Other mention of it in the Asus audio-doc annoucement : http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46308/asus-nexus-7-audio-dock — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.183.213.251 (talk) 03:13, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

• About the 16gb Max memory.

google play allows you to choose which movies you want, and you can easily fit at least a dozen HD movies for a screen that size if you choose to put on your own. are you going to watch a dozen movies between when you can access your computer or google drive through WiFi? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.32.71 (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Would it be worthwhile to discuss the shipping issues? Google have totally dropped the ball on shipping these things! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.25.186.243 (talk) 01:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Naming: I'm not sure where to put this criticism/suggestion - but it surprises me that this article is about the Nexus 7 but it doesn't talk about why the product was named this. A reference to PK Dick's "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" seems not only apt, but necessary for completeness to the article. The "androids" in that book were the Nexus-6 series, and clearly inspired the naming of this device. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.196.18 (talk) 16:50, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

It's called the Nexus because its part of the Nexus series, and its the 7 because its 7 inches in size. Does that make sense? Besides, that's original research, and that's not allowed. ViperSnake151  Talk  20:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Too Many Prices

The price thing has gotten out of control in the infobox....too many prices...we can't list every country in the world. At some point in the past year or so, I remember someone talking about a guideline or policy about this subject, but I can't find it. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 03:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

See answer at Wikipedia:NOPRICES. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 17:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Some good sources

There's a trove of accurate info and even history from the following tech news sites. Very interesting and good journalism!

• http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review

All the links below can be found in on place: http://www.theverge.com/products/nexus-7/5831

• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/28/3124041/asus-me370t-nexus-7-transformation-google-nvidia
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/23/3038125/nvidia-reveals-kai-199-quad-core-reference-design
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3127278/nexus-7-mhl-usb-otg
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3126233/asus-nexus-7-gamestop-pre-order
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/28/3122811/nexus-7-manufacturing-cost-design-time
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/28/3122712/nexus-7-guidebook-available-google-play-books
• http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3122180/google-io-attendees-white-nexus-7-tablet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.184.54.12 (talk) 05:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Availability

What's the source of the statement that "Initial shipments will be confined to the US, Canada and Australia"? I ordered one from the UK Google Play web site the day after it was announced and was told it would ship in 2-3 weeks. Isn't that the same as the US? Davorg (talk) 17:26, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

About Pogo Pins

Under the hardware section, the following is stated: "As with all Google Nexus program devices, Nexus 7 also features a pogo pin interface available for future accessories." This is not correct. I can say for a fact that my Nexus S does not have these pins and AFAIK the only other Nexus device with these pins is the Galaxy Nexus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.123.76.18 (talk) 13:27, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

It means ever post Galaxy Nexus Nexus device will have pogo pins! --79.69.101.118 (talk) 18:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Processor Speed

The information box lists the processor as a quad-core 1.2GHz processor while the Hardware category lists it as a quad-core 1.3GHz processor. Which one is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.149.179 (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

1200 Mhz--79.69.101.118 (talk) 18:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Bluetooth version

Here on the wiki is information about bluetooth 4.0. On official listing on asus site (http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Nexus/Nexus_7/#specifications) mention bluetooth version is 3.0. Which information is correct?

3.0--79.69.101.118 (talk) 18:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Image request

I'd like to request a photo of the default home screen of the Nexus 7 free of apps apart those that came with the tablet, similar to File:Android 4.1 on the Galaxy Nexus.jpeg. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 08:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Color resolution of Nexus 7 screen

Guys, what's with this insistence on the display being 24-bit? Google never said this in their marketing materials, and if you look up relevant chip's spec or just try viewing smooth gradients with your own eyes, you can easily see that it is 18-bit (R6G6B6) display. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laubzega (talk • contribs) 22:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

If you're not going to provide a reliable source that actually states the number of colours, stop reverting my 16M figure, which is backed up by GSMArena and PhoneArena. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 07:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I thought that considering:

a) I gave you links to well known, reliable site that opened the device to identify relevant chip (http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/3#s36546), and then a link to the specs from the manufacturer of said chip (http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/113460874/HV070WX2_1E0.html) that clearly says "262K(6bits)",

b) pointed out that Google and Asus are careful to never advertise color resolution of the Nexus 7 screen (they just list pixel resolution and dpi),

c) any attempt at displaying smooth color gradient (like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/teazeb/cg.png) on Nexus 7 shows visible banding, a fact that can be easily verified by anybody with at least one working eye

it is reasonable to assume that PhoneArena/GSMArena got it wrong, perhaps making the same assumption as you did, perhaps copying it from one another (or maybe even from here). They do not list their sources, while I am not sure what more I can do to convince you, if you do not want to believe your own eyes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laubzega (talk • contribs) 07:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

A teardown of the Nexus 7 by UBM plc ([1]) paints another picture. What if the no. of colours is originally 262K, but the saturation level spikes the figure to over 16M? Looks like we're at an impasse. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 08:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I doubt you have looked into the report (rather then just the summary), and anyway I guess that no matter who is doing the teardown, they are going to encounter this ([2]), which upon closer inspection reveals that LCD is indeed HYDIS HV070WX2-1E0 ([3]). Now, apart from checking the Alibaba link I have provided previously, and which states that the display is 6-bit (per color component), i.e. 262K, you may also wish to visit HYDIS website [4] and download their product catalog. While not yet updated with the latest models, it shows that 24-bit color resolution is only used in monitor and medical applications, while all mobile and tablet screens are 262K.

Finally, saturation has no impact on color resolution - these are independent parameters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laubzega (talk • contribs) 00:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

"Reception" photos

The photos and caption in the "Reception" section don't make sense. Axl ¤ [Talk] 23:23, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree--79.69.101.118 (talk) 18:56, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Google I/O

Mention the special Google I/O edition--79.69.101.118 (talk) 18:57, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Is this noteworhty?--79.69.96.179 (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Featrued Articles

Make rthis a featured article--88.111.113.78 (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Asus MeMo

Asus MeMO http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/28/3124041/asus-me370t-nexus-7-transformation-google-nvidia --88.111.127.125 (talk) 17:26, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

18-bit display

My edit about display color depth was reverted with comment "not sure why this is being mentioned", so I'm putting it back and here is why: color depth is one of the most important properties of the display. It does belong to technical specifications of the device. I bought Nexus 7 expecting pretty 24-bit colors, but instead got this horrible dithered mess. 178.140.224.56 (talk) 06:43, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Not found in non-RS (where does it say 18-bit?): here: http://www.panelook.com/HV070WX2-1E0_HYDIS_7.0_LCM_parameter_17069.html, specifically HYDIS HV070WX2-1E0 Optical Features -> Display Color -> 262K (6-bit). That's 6 bit per red, green and blue color parts, for a total of 6+6+6=18 bits. 2^18 = 262144, or 262K colors as the spec lists it. Please do not revert changes about technical things if you do not know what they are. 178.140.224.56 (talk) 08:43, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

As you can see above, this silliness has been going on for some time. The fact that N7 display is 18-bit is obvious to anyone who knows even the basics of display tech, yet one stubborn editor won't allow this info because "sources do not agree". Jeeez. These sources copy this kind of data from each other, with predictable results. One should get to the real source, which is the manufacturer. Does Sp33dyPhil really think that Asus/Google have added these missing bits later on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laubzega (talk • contribs) 04:50, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

why was the '18 bit' information removed? style over substance?

189.130.246.63 (talk) 09:42, 19 April 2013 (UTC) baden

Price / Introductory Price

Should or should not the price of the 32 GB Nexus 7 be added in the infobox in the Introductory price? Shirsakbc (talk) 08:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

• No pricing should not be seen, adding the 32 device is ok to the box IMHO. Wilee (talk) 06:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

The 32 GB model was not part of the initial release. Thus, introductory price for a model that was introduced later is irrelevant. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Technical issues

• Android 4.2 on the Nexus 7 has an issues with draining the battery to zero will not allow to charging the Nexus 7 when plugged into the wall , it will look like it is broken as it will not turn on.
  • Cars have recall pages and I think that Wikipedia should out line faulty products , cars have recalls etc, as for some devices Wikipedia will be here long after some fan site goes away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilee (talk • contribs) 10:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
  • See 2009–2011_Toyota_vehicle_recalls — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilee (talk • contribs) 10:36, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
• Also the iPhone 4 has a IPhone_4#Technical_issues section that I have mirrored here for the nexus 7 , if people are having device that are not able to charge and turn on that is a massive bug IMHO. Wilee (talk) 06:21, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Wilee (talk) 14:30, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Blogs are often not reliable sources. Primary sources are typically not allowed in articles. Social networks and forums are also not considered reliable sources. The Toyota recalls had strong mainstream media coverage. ViperSnake151  Talk  01:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

rewrite

this article seriously needs a rewrite, it reads like a sales brochure, devoid of worthwhile information.

189.130.246.63 (talk) 09:33, 19 April 2013 (UTC) baden

Page Contents

Should this page be the general page about the Nexus 7 line? Then there could be a page called Nexus 7 (1st Generation) since there is already one for Nexus 7 (2nd generation)? Just like how there is iPad and iPad (1st generation) and so on.

Secret Agent Julio (My Talk Page)

17:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

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