Talk:New Year's Day (U2 song)

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Are you sure the people on horseback were not the members of U2. I found on another site, that it was except for the Edge, as well as some other facts. http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=892 Eisen8388 23:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

People can submit their own opinions there; I wouldn't consider it a reliable source. In U2 by U2, Edge said that they were 4 Swedish girls; it is a more reliable source, in my opinion. Regards, Neranei (talk) 23:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

First hit single?

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Article says NYD was U2's first hit single. In UK yes, but they already had two top 10 hits in Ireland (bands country of origin) before that. This should be specified as it's a little misleading. Also, NYD was no.2 in Irish chart, this isn't mentioned at all and yet no.11 in Dutch chart is?

Solidarity

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This article specifies that the song is about the Polish Solidarity movement, but it isn't cited and I can't find anything that agrees with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.136.23 (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

It's from an interview with Rolling Stone from 2012, where Bono said, ""We improvise, and the things that came out; I let them come out."
"I must have been thinking about Lech Walesa being interned. Then, when we'd recorded the song, they announced that martial law would be lifted in Poland on New Year's Day. Incredible." https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/entertainment/u2-new-years-day Johundhar (talk) 20:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
And in the source sited right after the claim: "As he stood in the studio on the day in 1982 that U2 was finalizing “New Year’s Day,” Bono had a mental picture of Lech Walesa, the Polish Solidarity leader, standing in the snow on New Year’s Day, leading a workers strike. It resonated with him."Johundhar (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Genre dispute

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I think it is obvious that this song is indeed "hard rock," not just "rock" in general. OED defines hard rock as "rock music characterised by overall loudness and a heavy regular beat." This song is definitely that, I can say from having heard it multiple times. Qxukhgiels (talk) 21:22, 22 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Can you find any sources supporting this? I'm not opposed to calling it hard rock, but only if we can support the claim with reliable sources. Otherwise it's just original research. -- Calidum 23:08, 22 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
Well, as Escape Orbit has already mentioned, genres are usually WP:BLUE, and it seems this genre would be obvious, but I guess not. I'll look when I get back from my Wikibreak.Qxukhgiels (talk) 21:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
Actually I said genres are almost always not WP:BLUE, particularly differences between sub-genres. They are almost always a matter of opinion, and this is why genres are so often subject to disputes. My opinion (which is irrelevant as yours, no matter how many times you've heard it), is that it is not hard rock. But a good source is what is needed either way. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 13:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
The only genres that might be WP:BLUE are "instrumental" and "soundtrack", which are either/or propositions rather than artistic evaluations. Every genre that is not BLUE – by far the great majority – must be supported by published sources. Binksternet (talk) 23:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
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