Talk:Names of the Berber people

Contradictions

The first and second sections of this article contradict each other and there are numerous small problems. It needs to be cleaned up. The B rating is too high for this... -Fenevad 03:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

That is true. The introduction is according to me not accurate. Read3r (talk) 23:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Problem solved. --75.63.50.238 (talk) 02:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it needs some change. Perhaps the issue is that there is not enough detailed information on the topic to justify it having its own separate page. So it may be best to merge it with "Berber people". Neho22 09:53, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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Coining of "Amazigh"

The sources I read talked about how previously, there wasn't a real collective Amazigh consciousness since they're all individual tribes, but their marginalization after the 19th century revival of the "berber" concept led to a stronger sense of Amazigh collective identity. What I couldn't find is if "Amazigh" is a completely modern term coined in response to this consciousness, or if it was in use earlier, and in either case, around what time was it coined? Would love it if anyone has information on that they could add.

Relatedly, I left this previously existing sentence in the article: "Etymologically, the name "Amazigh" may be related to the well attested "aze" (strong), "Tizzit" (braver) or "jeghegh" to be brave/courageous." However, the citation is broken/unclear so I am unable to confirm this. Maybe someone can find a better source / add clarity? Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 06:05, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

There was more written about this in the main Berbers page, so I moved that over to this page. A lot of this text was sketchily cited or maybe is original research, so more editing is probably needed. Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 13:28, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

"Etymologically, the name "Amazigh" may be related to the well attested "aze" (strong), "Tizzit" (braver) or "jeghegh" to be brave/courageous." This looks like a folk-etymology, or even worse, a pseudo-etymological concoction. Since the citation only attests the existence of these three roots, I will remove it as WP:OR. –Austronesier (talk) 20:57, 23 December 2022 (UTC)