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Why edit
Why does there have to be a separate article about the same thing as Islamic schools and branches? Just add your extinct sects and history over at Islamic schools and branches if you want, there are no criteria that prevent them from being included there. - HyperGaruda (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- Islamic schools and branches is a huge article including topics like Sufism and islamic theology. On the other hand, Sufism and islamic theology are examined in detail in their own pages. There are also separate pages like madhabs. All these topics are repeated again and again in Islamic schools and branches. This page should examine political divisions, sects and fiqh schools.212.253.113.51 (talk) 19:28, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- They are very closely related to madhhabs. Actually one cannot define own denomination without expressing the name of the madhhab who belongs to. They are either from Sunni or Shi'ite denomination or independent like Ibadis. Thee are new movements in Islam as well. A few worth mentioning are Quranists, Ahmadiyya movement, Barelvi movement, Deobandi movement, Gülen movement, and Salafi movement. According to many researchers Quranist Muslims and Ahmadi Muslims are new independent denominations, but the other movements like Barelvi movement, Deobandi movement, Gülen movement, and Salafi movement are all a part of Sunnis. That's why the details about all these groups should be examined in Muslim denominations article.
212.253.113.70 (talk) 13:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Denominations & Islamic schools edit
They are separated now by moving all denominations to this page. These denominations may be summarized in the article on Islamic schools and branches which is too long. 212.253.113.51 (talk) 23:34, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
No such thing as Hispanic American denominations edit
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Are they doing something vastly different that you have to call them Denomination????? Alexis Ivanov (talk) 17:47, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, they call them as branches in America212.253.113.70 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Branch of what? There are many ethnic-Islamic organization catering to their ethnic group it has nothing to do with branches or denomination. With your logic you need to add every ethnic organization in the page?? I'm assuming you have no knowledge of Islamic denomination if you seriously believe what you are saying, they do nothing different than the major Sunni Branch. Compare it to nation of Islam where they do things very different and have their own history and rituals. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:17, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Branches and even sub-Branches like sulaimani, Qutbi Bohras and even Sunni Bohras.. Americans call these things as new-branches of old Muslim sects, etc..212.253.113.70 (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Even this Black Muslim movements - see the list of denominations in template..212.253.113.70 (talk) 22:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Branches and even sub-Branches like sulaimani, Qutbi Bohras and even Sunni Bohras.. Americans call these things as new-branches of old Muslim sects, etc..212.253.113.70 (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Branch of what? There are many ethnic-Islamic organization catering to their ethnic group it has nothing to do with branches or denomination. With your logic you need to add every ethnic organization in the page?? I'm assuming you have no knowledge of Islamic denomination if you seriously believe what you are saying, they do nothing different than the major Sunni Branch. Compare it to nation of Islam where they do things very different and have their own history and rituals. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:17, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
212.253.113.70 (talk) 22:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
- Bohras are definitely a sect, they do things differently and that is why they have different name and identity. While Hispanic Muslim organizations come under Sunni or Shia Islam, being an organzation doesn't make a sect, they are simply catering to an ethnic group and a linguistic group, you can't say an Iranian American Muslim organization is a sect of Islam. African American denomination are different, they are more than organization they have a different beliefs and tradition. They belief Elijaj Muhammad of nation Islam is a prophet and other such things. Not comparable to Hispanic organization. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 23:18, 30 June 2016 (UTC)