Talk:Moomba Festival

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Adumbrativus in topic Requested move 16 August 2023

Timing edit

The article presently states "(the first Friday to the second Monday in March)". Is this always correct? In 2011 for example that will be Friday 4 March to Monday 14 March - over a week. --Scott Davis Talk 09:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Possible new external link edit

Hi, I moderate Culture Victoria. We have the Moomba story in CV which includes digital stories and historic images from Moomba. I've had a look at the guidelines for adding external links and thought that a link to CV would be relevant and appropriate. Please let me know what you think.--Eleworth (talk) 05:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

  Done Looks good to me. Thank you for avoiding a conflict of interest, by bringing it here instead of adding it yourself. -- Zsero (talk) 12:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

Sources re Moomba 'riot' in 2016 edit

Not sure about how significant this is regarding "Gangs ran amok in the city on March 12 with at least 100 people brawling in Federation Square and up Swanston Street.", so just leaving the links here for reference;

- 220 of Borg 11:49, 23 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

This event seems to be already covered at Apex (gang)#Moomba brawl, but should rate a mention here as well, and a link to the gang page. 220 of Borg 12:08, 23 May 2016 (UTC)Reply
Have added a brief comment about it in the history section, with a link to the gang page.--Josephus37 (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Moomba Festival of 1988 edit

Hi

I just wanted to let you know about the Moomba Festival  in 1988.

It was the bicentenary year and they had a competition for princess and prince of moonba.

In your article it has it was in 1989 and you also have the wrong names of the prince and princess of Moomba.

It was a one off competition run by 3kz the radio station.

I know this because I won Princess of Moomba in 1988 out of thousands of girls in Victoria.

I was on  TV in 1988 on the radio and I also opened up ceremonies to start the moombah festival off.

You really need to change the information, this was a on off event. Moomba only ever had a King & Queen, never a Prince & Princess.

I cannot remember the Princes name  but I'm sure it wouldn't be to hard to find out.

I remember winning the Competition, I walked across to my Primary School and they announced who won over the P.A system of the School.

I had to send a photo in and 25 words or less why I wanted to be the Princess of Moomba.

So it was in 1988, the Year that Jo Pearson won, I was on her Float, i still have it on VHS.

Samantha Dyer 15/11/1976.

Thanks

Samantha Dyer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.169.107.98 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hello Samantha, could you maybe point to some sources on this? Maybe it was mentioned in a newspaper from that time? – Þjarkur (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
The Prince and Princess of Moomba was first and foremost a promotional addendum to the Moomba festival's primary system of royalty - the Queens, Kings, and later Monarchs. According to the city's official history of the event, the primary positions were:

First introduced was the Queen of Moomba in 1955, and in 1967, the first Queen of the Pacific and first King of Moomba were crowned. At times, all three royals reigned concurrently, but by 1988 this gender-specific system was supplanted by a single representative monarch.[1]

Entered into this equation was 3KZ, the Australian radio station run on the philosophy that long running and successful stations must "supplement music with news, sports, community services, stunts and on-location promotions that take the radio to the people in shopping malls, beaches, sporting events, entertainment halls and recreation events."[2]: 197  Thus, in 1981 the "Prince and Princess of Moomba" began being sponsored by 3KZ.[2]: 193 [a] This title was not officially linked to the royalty selected through Moomba proper, but owing to their sponsorship of portions of the festival (through monetary donations and advertising deals) these "junior level" winners were, on occassion, allowed to ride and/or congregate near the "adult" winners selected in those roles. But that appears to be the extent of their association. The Prince and Princess roles are already well covered in the article. So the question then becomes one about the date: should it be listed as 1988 or 1989? My suggestion would be to place (c. 1981–1988) when discussing the Prince and Princess of Moomba, as that signifies an approximate timespan according to the 3KZ source.[b] Regards,  Spintendo  16:15, 9 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
  Dates added  Spintendo  21:26, 16 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Notes

  1. ^ The COI editor's assertion that this was a "one off event" occurring only in 1988 may have been correct from her perspective, but the Walker source indicates that there were other dates where a Prince and Princess were chosen.
  2. ^ The 3KZ source gives us a start date of at least 1981 (but not an end date). That date comes to us from the COI editor's primary source document (a VHS copy of the original parade broadcast). A fair compromise would be to describe the timespan between these two dates. If the COI editor would be so kind as to provide the channel or network that the recorded parade segment from her VHS copy shows as airing on, along with the date and names of any hosts/announcers shown during the program, those elements could be added together to craft a {{cite AV media}} reference that could then be used for the 1988 date.

References

  1. ^ Bellamy, Craig; Chisholm, Gordon; Ericksen, Hilary. Moomba: A Festival for the People. The City of Melbourne. p. 17. ISBN 0957870272. OCLC 122312429.
  2. ^ a b Walker, R. R (1984). Dial 1179: The 3KZ Story. Curry O'Neil. ISBN 9780855505967. OCLC 12663214.



Moomba Masters edit

Hey everyone, I have created a page with all the winners I could find references for the Moomba Masters (water skiing). I could use any help with references talking about the history of the event. We could add some here to the Moomba page but eventually I'd like to open a Moomba Masters page. Any help with references (online or paper) would be a huge help :) Luzz (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Zig and Zag? edit

No mention of their long involvement, or the indecent assault, and this was responsible for no Moomba Monarch being crowned for a decade? It is already on their page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zig_and_Zag_(Australian_performers) LamontCranston (talk) 04:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 16 August 2023 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 05:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)Reply


MoombaMoomba Festival – Per WP:NATURAL. Other than a spike during the event itself, this article doesn't really get more pageviews than Moomba, South Australia, which has significant long-term notability. There's also Moomba (constituency), or even the partial title match Moombahton. 162 etc. (talk) 15:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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