Talk:Me at the zoo

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 22:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Jawed Karim

• ... that YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim (pictured) has updated the description of his "Me at the zoo" video on multiple occasions to criticize the website's business decisions? Source: https://venturebeat.com/2013/11/08/youtube-cofounders-first-public-comment-in-8-years-why-the-f-do-i-need-a-google-account-to-comment-on-a-video/
  https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/17/22787080/youtube-dislikes-criticism-cofounder-jawed-karim-first-video-description-zoo
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dora and the Fantastical Creatures and Template:Did you know nominations/Sitdown strike

Improved to Good Article status by Davest3r08 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

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Davest3r08 >:3 ^(talk) 01:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Davest3r08: Everything checks out here. Just waiting on the one QPQ. Nice work! 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 16:04, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

• Good to go! 🐱FatCat96🐱 Chat with Cat 01:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

With YouTube Rewind 2018: Everyone Controls Rewind (nom) in prep 5, this should not be scheduled until the next prep 5.--Launchballer 17:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

• LunaEclipse, concerns have been raised over the copyright status of the video and as it was the lead hook, I've pulled it from queue. It needs to be promoted again, but can't include the video, unless we come to the conclusion that the license is ok after all. Schwede66 22:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: there is evidence that this was CC-BY licensed at one point. CC licenses are irrevocable. 🌙Eclipse ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
• After concerns were raised on WT:DYK about the copyright status, I've posted to the commons about this video: [1] Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Videos attract huge views, and I recommend waiting until we have an answer.--Launchballer 10:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: I've replaced the video with an image of Karim. It's going to take a while for a consensus on the upload's copyright to form anyways. 🌙Eclipse ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I won't use that image per WP:DYKIMG. Just noting here that, while the hook should technically have an end-of-sentence citation, ALT0 is clearly a summary of the rest of that paragraph and the alternative's potentially a {{clump}}, so I'm minded to IAR - but is there a source available?--Launchballer 18:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

- @Launchballer, Davest3r08, LunaEclipse, and Schwede66: I've removed this from the queue again, as it doesn't look like the issue of the video's copyright has been resolved yet. I think before this runs, we need to either (a) remove the video from the article, or (b) ascertain that there's a consensus somewhere that its copyright status is valid. As far as I could tell from the discussion last time, we were minded to reject the video's certification given that Lapitsky recorded it, not Karim. I'd think without definitive knowledge that Lapitsky's intention was to release it under that licence, and with it not even being under that licence any more anyway, this is pretty dubious...  — Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I've added my 2c to the discussion on Commons. That said, I'm not sure that's quite the right venue for that discussion; it should have been put up for deletion. Schwede66 21:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@LunaEclipse, Schwede66, Rjjiii, Kentuckian, and Amakuru: Just noting here that I have nominated the video for deletion on Commons.--Launchballer 10:25, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok, this nom has stalled for way too long. I've removed the video from the article for the time being. lunaeclipse ^(talk) 22:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

• It would be really cool to run this on April 23, 2025- the 20th anniversary of its posting. Thriley (talk) 18:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I wish you the very best of much-needed luck at WT:DYK if you wish to go down that avenue. For now, let's get this back into Approved. I recommend promoting this no earlier than prep 4 just in case the Commons discussion returns a 'keep' vote, so that the video can be substituted back in.--Launchballer 18:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Infobox image

Should we use the video's thumbnail in the infobox instead of the video itself? $456,000 Squid Game in Real Life! has done so already. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 13:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll add it and see what happens. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 20:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)