Talk:Louie B. Felt

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 15:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Eliza R. Snow

The mention of ERSnow assisting in the setting apart is very interesting. Does anyone have a solid reference?--Rojerts 16:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

It's in the Masters thesis referenced, which is available online through the BYU Library. I can't remember if it itself has a reference for that. I believe it's also in one of the Children's Friend articles referenced. -SESmith 07:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed Lies

To suggest that the relationship or Felt and Anderson was anything except friendship is to impose modern sexual mores on the past. The fact that Mr. Felt invited May to come to care for Louie in her illness shows it is not as said. Read http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=review&id=280#note41 if you doubt this.Johnpacklambert (talk) 19:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Your beef is with Quinn. The article just repots what others have said. Snocrates 20:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Quinn's scholarship is sloppy, substandard, and the way the article presents it is misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnpacklambert (talk • contribs) 20:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a POV to me, especially when there is a second reliable source that came to similar conclusions. Snocrates 01:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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Ambiguous Text

The phrase "After Joseph's death in 1907, Louie and May continued to live together, sleeping in the same bedroom, for 40 years until Louie's death" implies that Louie and May lived together until 1947. This is not possible as Felt died in 1928. Can someone please reword. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mineit4 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Quinn's book as source

Hello everyone, I was wondering what you think of Quinn's Same-Sex Dynamics among Nineteenth-Century Americans as a source. I'm in the process of reading through some scholarly reviews of it, and it's quite controversial. I don't think it makes sense to remove it as a source altogether, but I think furor over Felt's close relationship with May should be a smaller portion of her page. I'll be working on expanding the biographical portions, but please tell me your opinions. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Aside from the reviews in the FARMS review of books, most of the reviews of Same-Sex Dynamics are actually quite positive. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Friendship and Desire in Victorian England

Hello Wikipedians, I did some research on women friendships in Victorian times and it has helped me understand the context of Louie B. Felt's writings. I'm worried it might be original research (or maybe would be better on a Victorian culture page), but I thought I would put a few quotes here in case anyone else was curious. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:03, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

"The care of the 'friend's' body in the crises of illness and death and in daily life was one sign of a conjugal relationship between women euphemistically called friends. Without ever even hinting that Bonheur and Micas had sex, Hird showed that they had higher levels of involvement and intimacy than even the closest of female friends, who rarely lived together for long periods of time and almost never pooled their wealth or arranged to be interred together."

"Only in the late 1930s, after fear of female inverts had become widespread, did women's lifewritings start to describe female friendship as a development phase to be effaced by marriage. Since then, erotic playfulness between women has either been overinterpreted as having the same seriousness as sexual acts or underinterpreted and trivialized as a phase significant only as training for heterosexual courtship. Victorian lifewriting demonstrates, however, that expressions of playful attraction and love were strongest precisely between women who never became lovers, and far from being practice for marriage, were as common after it as before."

"Adrienne Rich has influentially argued that 'compulsory heterosexuality' works by stifling all kinds of bonds between women, from homosocial to homosexual, but Victorian society's investment in heterosexuality went hand-in-hand with what we could call compulsory homosociability and homoeroticism for women. The imperative to please men required women to scrutinize other women's dress and appearance in order to improve their own, and at the same time promoted a specifically feminine appetite for attractive friends and lovely strangers."

References

additional source

There's an article on Anderson and Felt in Utah Historical Quarterly 49.3 (1981). It's online. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:00, 17 September 2020 (UTC)