Rebel, revolutionary etc. edit

I just came across an article that in the lead said the subject was a revolutionary. He was in a category that said he was a rebel. I am now eondering, is there a clear difference? Do sources use the two terms consistently, especially over time. I think the general thought is rebels seek to change who controls the government, revolutionaries seek to change the form of government. Then there are people who seek to either end a ln outside coloniskust regime, or to break a country apart in some way, that at least in their view is based on logical ethnic or such divisions. These are not mutually exclusive goals. People seeking to remove a colonial government may also want to go from a monarchy to a Republic or a communist regime. While to some extent we base this on attempting to use military means to accomplish these goals, at other time wecsay "Perdon x was punished as a revolutionary, thus thry were", but all they did was spread pamphlets critical of the government. We seem to only have revolutionary and rebel categories, and no clear distinction. I am starting to think we might need to make it all one category, because the placements seems arbitrary.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:52, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Burial cats edit

Wikipedia is not meant to be a guide to finding the bodies of the deceased. I am unconvinced we need any burial categories at all. I think the only exception is if we can show that a burial amounts to an award. So military cemeteries might pass, and maybe a few other places. However we have to show it is a defining award. I think we should also limit categories to the first burial location. However the huge number of clearly not allowed categorizing of people by place as opposed to specific location of burial is a bigger problem. Overall it is a small problem. We only have at most a few hundred articles in any category, but it adds up to probably about 10,000 bio articles in a category thry should not be in, which is less than 1% of bios on deceased people.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:38, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply