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Archive 1

List prepared

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Finally we have prepared a nice and well organized list. Main thank should go to Bangladeshi Wikipedians as they have created all the university articles and also developed university templates which actually helped me a lot to prepare this list. Nahid, Adi bhaia and other wikipedians who fixed different flaws and make necessary corrections really deserve a hats-off.

Anyway, I have a plan to give a drive to convert this list to a Featured List. I found following lists very much helpful - List of Dartmouth College faculty, List of medical schools in the United Kingdom, List of Athabasca University people, List of people associated with Jesus College, Oxford. I think we may use their structures and patterns to prepare our list. Please express your comments and views regarding this issue. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 13:51, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Image

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I've added some images (size:150px each) in Private university section. After making the table we can reduce the image size.--NAHID 17:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Completely agreed. Actually I added some pictures on this list just to see how does it look. After constructing all the tables with required information, we may arrange a discussion to select pictures for this list. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 17:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Bengali name

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I think the Bengali name i.e. (Bengali: বাংলাদেশী বিশ্ববিদ্যালয় সমূহের তালিকা) may be unnecessary. Local language names should be used only when the actual term is in local language like local language names of people, places and things. Arman ^(Talk) 01:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Table width

Latest comment: 16 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Ahhhh... finally I have done with the equal table width structure. Last two days I was getting mad finding different table parameters. One Korean wikipedia page and another French page helped me a lot in preparing those tables. I got so disappointed when I found each table in its own funny structure. But now I have fixed their width. You may view them; I'm quite sure, they'll give your eyes a cool and organized feeling. Please provide your comments and also mention if you feel any extra column or information is needed. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 17:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Alphabetical order

Latest comment: 16 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

I do completely agree that it is not encyclopedic at all to mention a list in alphabetical order. But we should have a method so that people can easily understand in which order this list is arranged. So, any idea ... ? -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 10:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

We have automated table of content.It will make easy to find any university of specific region. I think we should mention alphabetic order or Alphabetical list in articles, when it comes about people. Like List of Athabasca University people. Though this list article (List of Dartmouth College faculty) didn't even mention alphabetic order or Alphabetical list. BTW Private university list should be placed at the top of the article. Red links appeared in Public university looks spam and odd.--NAHID 16:33, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

About Alphabetical Order: Okay, I do agree following List of Dartmouth College faculty style.

About Private Universities on the Top: As most of the public universities are older than private universities and also have a long tradition not only with the education of Bangladesh but also with our culture, politics and day-to-day life, I think they deserve to be on the top of the list. Moreover, first four pictures have been selected carefully so that it can reflect our tradition and culture which is completely missing with private universities right now (no permanent campus). It doesn't mean that private universities do not have impact on our society. What I'm trying to point out here is, still public universities deserve to be on the top of this list. And about those red links - I think gradually those links will be removed.

By the way, only a few private uni have pictures on WP. Even we cannot fill-up half of the private uni section with those pix. Please do something :-( . -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 17:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Pictures of public university have right impact.But rest of the things seems to me confusing. I'm bit confused whether they are maintaining neutrality or not. We can easily get private univ. picture of Dhaka division, but it's hard get free images (private univ.) of Chittagong, Rajshahi and Sylhet division. There are 24 images of private univ. are available. One more thing is, soon NSU and IUB are going to establish their permanant campus in Bashundhara.--NAHID 13:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

NSU, IUB and AUST will shift to their own campus soon. EWU also started its campus construction this year and have a plan to finish by Fall 2009. But the point is, still all those campus are in future form. I visited IIUC permanent campus in 2004 which is really cool, but we don't have any pic of that campus. As soon as we'll get those pix we can update this list. But for the time being we should keep campus based universities on the top. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 15:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

DIIT

Latest comment: 16 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Attn: Nahid
Daffodil Institute of Information Technology is not a university at all. Even they never demanded themselves as a university in their official site. DIIT provides foreign degrees which is a common practice with other institutions as well, such as, London College of Legal Studies, London School of Commerce etc. Few months back, Bangladeshi Government officially declared them not a university and a day later British Council announced that they are role is like a study center not a university or foreign university campus. In fact, they are just providing the teaching; exam and other stuff are taken by the respective universities with the help of British Council. I think there is no point to add such institution in the private university list as well in the private university template. Regards, -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 18:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, DIIT is a institution run by DIU. Like MIST, it shouldn't be considered as university.--NAHID 04:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. DIIT is a higher educational institute like MIST. I removed MIST from the public university list while preparing those tables. By the way, I have a plan to propose a separate segment in this list to add reputed higher educational institutions such as IBA, MIST etc. What do you think ? -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 13:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Clarification: Institutions and medical colleges can be arranged in one or multiple separate lists later. Thus, I removed BMC from this list. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 13:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured list drive

Latest comment: 16 years ago11 comments5 people in discussion

We have done with completing tables for all the divisions. Still there are some Red Links available for some universities. I think Nahid may take an initiative to create those pages. In the mean time I'll try to fix all the citations with access date. I would like to request Aditya Bhaia to add some third party reference where you feel it appropriate. Last but not the least, it would be really nice if Arman Bhaia have a look at this list and add/remove or update pictures and/or re-fix necessary places. Hopefully it would be another (or first ?) featured list from Bangladesh very soon. Kind regards. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 16:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I am bit busy these days. If I get time and find enough sources of red link, I will try to turn them as blue link. BTW, as Arman said, we need to fix ref section according to Wikipedia:Citing sources. That would be fine.--NAHID 10:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible to change name of the "Ref" column to "Website", and remove the "<ref>" tags (so that each Website will be directly accessible from its position in the list, instead of coming down to the bottom of the page first)? I personally don't think a list that has bluelinks only will need additional refs. Anyone looking for verification will be able to go the appropriate pages, by clicking on the links, and find the refs (only the appropriate pages will need refs, but that's a separate issue). I'll try to look up a citable source for the entire list. Thanks. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:19, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I also feel the reference column is a bit odd specially becasue the ref links are not well formatted at all. Aditya's proposal of changing it to "Website" may be a good idea - only problem is, in many cases the links don't lead to the University website - rather a 3rd party site. Is "External link" a more appropriate title? On a separate note, we can check List of colleges and universities in Vermont for best practices. Earlier I have tried to align the images and the table in the article, but somehow it is not working in IE yet (FireFox looks ok). I'll give another look into it. Arman ^(Talk) 02:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I do agree with both of you about the ref section. Initially I tried to add only web addresses there and eventually found that all the Bangladeshi universities do not have their own websites. In the mean while I came across this list - List of people associated with Jesus College, Oxford and got an idea to convert website section to a ref section by adding necessary citations there. You may notice that upper part of this list (right now, mid and bottom part is 100% undone) contains information about the respective universities either from their official site or from a third party. We can organize this complicated scenario by placing official web-pages under a new section called URL and leaving ref only with the third party citations.

By fixing width as percentage (%), I tried to make all the tables identical (from top to bottom). On I.E. 6.0.2900.2180 it looks quite fine only with a problem regarding double column reference section. But, now on both FireFox and I.E., tables width became variable based on the available space beside them. It would be really nice if Arman Bhaia have a look at this issue once again. Regards. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 13:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Great idea (about seggregating URLs and Refs) However, if we do so, I don't think we need to maintain ref as a column, rather they can go as a citation for the University name or year of establishment or specialization as appropriate. And all refs should be formatted properly - if possible using "cite web" template. Arman ^(Talk) 01:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Just another idea - why not keep the space for official website empty for universities that don't have any (may be filling the place with an m-dash)? Therefore, the columns will be called "Website", and will be filled either by a direct link (as opposed to a link that leads first to the bottom of the page and from there to the website) that looks like - [12] - or an "—" or "NA" for universities that don't have websites. I am sure there would be pretty few of the "—" or "NA" in the list. Most universities already have websites, no matter how badly done. And, third-party refs could go well to the first column (where the name of the university is put in). I still don't think every row in tables should need a ref, unless there is doubt about the data. In such cases the ref should be put into the column that holds the doubtful data (like the foundation date or the location). Finally, can we change Est to Foundation year? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 07:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I have made most of the suggested changes, hope I haven't displeased anyone. BTW, is Comilla University operational, already? From the reference, it seems the foundation stone was laid in only 2006, but the wikipedia aricle implies it is already in operation ?!? Arman ^(Talk) 10:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure about Comilla University (CU), in fact I have doubt! In last November I visited my home-district (Feni) and on the way to go there, I crossed CU as it is almost on the side of the main Dhaka-CTG highway. It seemed that no one was present there.

Btw, you have done a nice work. Now this list looks much better. I would like to request you to check necessary code segment once again to make all the column width constant. Cheers. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 11:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Comilla University has started functioning. Here is the news link [1]. --Farsad (talk) 01:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks once again to Farsad (I think thrice less than a hour). This is a nice discovery indeed where you removed a big confusion. Moreover, this reference and information can be used to improve quality of that article. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 20:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

About two universities

Latest comment: 16 years ago9 comments3 people in discussion

As far I know, the name of Prime Asia University is Primeasia University. This name and article link should be fixed. And Viqarunnisa University is no longer operational. Should it be included in this list? -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 22:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Nice work there from Arman. I still think some of the refs are a bit dodgy (Tripod, Geocities) and I have removed observeronline as it was not working. For Comilla Univeristy and Viqarunnisa University, there are two ways to deal it - (1) add a note to the "Notes and references" section telling one is "yet to be operational" and the other "defunct" or "non-operational". The other way could be a section for "Non-operational universities". Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I prefer the last option of creating a separate section. If they are not functional then keeping them in the "count" does not seem fair. Arman ^(Talk) 02:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Me too. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 11:14, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

After a fresh websearch I'm convinced that Comilla University is now operational. Could someone please confirm the status of Viqarunnisa University? If it is totally closed now, may be we should just delete the name and get going. We now have one redlink in the list - Jessore University of Science and Technology. I failed to find any acceptable source to validate the existence of this university. Could someone please help? This list is too close to featured status, let's dot the last few i's and cut the t's and then go through the nomination process. Arman ^(Talk) 01:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Viq has closed down for good, and Jessore hasn't started. I have removed both. It's ready for an FAC submission now. If issues remain, they will be raised there, and will be easier to identify and solve. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 01:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Great! Let's do it. Arman ^(Talk) 01:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Completely agreed. I think it is now ready to be a Featured List nominee. Not a single list of this kind has reached upto this stage so far. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 20:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Medical college

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This medical college (Bangladesh Medical College) exist in Private university section. According to this List of medical colleges in Bangladesh, it / they shouldn't be added in private, public and other university section. Separate article needs to be created for medical colleges--NAHID 18:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Problem fixed. I have removed BMC from this list. In fact, it wasn't here when I prepared its basic structure. I think someone added this name later. Anyway, BMC should be placed in the list that you have mentioned above. Nice observation indeed. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 21:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured List nomination

Latest comment: 16 years ago7 comments2 people in discussion

As per above discussion I have nominated this article as Featured List Candidate. Constructive comments on the nomination page will be highly appreciated. Cheers! -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 21:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

This university and this university seems to be missing from the list. Is it possible to create article stubs for them, and put them where they belong in the list? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

East Delta University is done. Rest of the articles are coming soon. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 16:17, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

At least one university is still missing, and there's doubt that America Bangladesh University even exists now. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Bangladesh Islami University article is ready now. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 17:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

America Bangladesh University may have to go from the list. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 19:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Finally it became a Featured List. -- 22:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Wow! Congrats for the Featured List status. Great job :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, on behalf of all the active editors of this list. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 10:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Serial Number

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

There is a field in all the tables of this list, which denotes a number which look like a serial number. but no explanation on the number is given. I suppose, this field should entirely be removed. I intended to remove, but expecting some response; if none found may be I'll be eliminating them.--nafSadh নাফী ম. সাধ 19:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please.No need to wait for a response to rectify something this obvious. Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Regional Lists or Unified one?

Latest comment: 13 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

Is not it better to have one list for all divisions (Dhaka, Chittagong...) instead of separate lists for each divisions? In that case we may add a column in table denoting the division. নাফী ম. সাধ nafSadh^talk 18:45, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. Will you give it a try? And, if it doesn't work, you can always restore this version. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Did such for Public Universities section. To me, it looks much more cool. But more texts are to be added in the in this section for division-wise discussion. Someone might work on Private universities, or may be I'll do it (very) later.--নাফী ম. সাধ nafSadh^talk 17:02, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Awesome work, dude. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) I love appreciations. :P নাফী ম. সাধ nafSadh^{talk | contribs} 16:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Default Sort Order

Latest comment: 12 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

In the university list, we are still using arbitrary sort order and substantially some edits have messed more up them. Alphabetic sort order will be ridiculous in this very case, nor the date of establishment can be regarded as best. Such a list might best be sorted in accordance to importance of entities but there is no universally acceptable ranking. So, I suggest: For public universities

Universities established before 1971 can be ordered by date of establishment
For Universities established after 1971:
- General universities precede specialized universities
- Specializations are sorted alphabetically, i.e. all "Agricultural science" univs shall precede all "Engineering"
- Science & technology univs can be placed between general and specialized, as they encompass general academic faculties rather than concentrating on something special
- Univs of same category shall be sorted as per date of est.
Universities that are still not fully functional shall be listed in end. Such univ are
- those that have no intake
- those that do not have own campus; univs with own campus which do not yet have academic buildings are also classified in this type
- those formal establishment process of which are yet to be completed
Date of est, name, abbr. of univs shall conform with univ's Wikipedia article entry.
Univ's Wikipedia article entry shall be created before enlisting here.

For private universities:

General universities precede specialized universities
Specializations are sorted alphabetically, i.e. all "Agricultural science" univs shall precede all "Engineering"
Science & technology univs can be placed between general and specialized, as they encompass general academic faculties rather than concentrating on something special
Univs of same category shall be sorted as per date of est.
Date of est, name, abbr. of univs shall conform with univ's Wikipedia article entry.
Univ's Wikipedia article entry shall be created before enlisting here.
Universities that are still not fully functional shall not be enlisted. Such univ are
- those that have no intake
- those formal establishment process of which are yet to be completed
- those that are not affiliated and granted by UGC

» nafSadh did say 17:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

- A formidable amount and depth of thought. Only I have a few queries. On what basis can we conclude confidently that the sequence of appearance in a non-judgemental list needs some value attribution? Even if that holds valid, how are we concluding without personal judgement that generalized unis should come first, specialized unis come last and science and technology unis come in the middle, especially when it is ready to be resorted with the help of just one mouse-click? Is it not rather prudent to have a very non-judgemental and non-biased system of listing like alphabetical order, which not only is far from arbitrary but is also totally scientific, universal and controversy free?
- On other proposals I have a bit of observation on two - (1) as far as I can see, this is a list of existing universities, not of fully functional universities, and therefore, that criterion, if possible to validate, can be an added value parameter in the current lists; (2) dates, names and such need to be validated by the references provided, or with help from additional references, but those not necessarily need to conform with other Wikipedia articles, because Wikipedia articles are open to all kinds of degradation as content that anyone can edit, including vandals, pranksters, and numb-skulls.
- Finally, I would say that a mix of three different sorting system - (1) date of establishment for some; (2) type of specialization for some; and (3) alphabetical order within the second group - seems like awfully complicated for any list, especially when the most sub-sets of the second are so dependent on personal judgement. It is better to keep things simple and accessible, and therefore reader friendly. Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:29, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
  - BTW, is it possible to have your formidable efforts and power of thought collaborating on some other article? I would really love to have you as a collaborator. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:29, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Then, lets keep the list sorted as is :)

I'd love to collaborate in many articles (and I have a whole pile of article in my wishlist), but work and time forfend. » nafSadh did say 06:38, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Blacklisted Links Found on List of universities in Bangladesh

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Cyberbot II has detected links on List of universities in Bangladesh which have been added to the blacklist, either globally or locally. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed or are highly inappropriate for Wikipedia. The addition will be logged at one of these locations: local or global If you believe the specific link should be exempt from the blacklist, you may request that it is white-listed. Alternatively, you may request that the link is removed from or altered on the blacklist locally or globally. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. Please do not remove the tag until the issue is resolved. You may set the invisible parameter to "true" whilst requests to white-list are being processed. Should you require any help with this process, please ask at the help desk.

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