Talk:List of monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests/Archive 1

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Lead image

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I don't think an image of the statue of Frank Rizzo should be used in the lead for an article about Confederate monuments. Either move this page to Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests, or replace the lead image with one of a Confederate monument. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• I agree, I think this page should be moved to Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests, given the inclusion of the Rizzo statue, and the removal of non-confederate memorials related to slavery, such as the slave auction block removed near Richmond Virginia. See: https://abcnews.go.com/Travel/wireStory/virginia-city-removes-176-year-slave-auction-block-71088106

B 897 (talk) 04:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Moved. deisenbe (talk) 08:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:17, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Gallery

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On User talk:Another Believer#Gallery we have been discussing whether images should be in a gallery or not. Since this is clearly a rapidly evolving situation and article, I'd suggest setting that topic aside until the article is more stable. deisenbe (talk) 08:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm curious to hear what other editors think as well. Should we keep the gallery or try to integrate images throughout the article's prose? I don't think illustrating every single monument should be required; editors can easily click on a monument of interest to see and learn more. @Found5dollar and Yeoutie: Pinging you two as previous talk page contributors. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Where there is a Commons category for the subject, we could provide a link. I like how they did it on List of National Historic Landmarks in New York, with links below the main image. gobonobo ^{+ c} 04:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Frank Rizzo mural

In addition to the removal of the Frank Rizzo statue, a mural in South Philly's Italian Market was vandalized and then officially painted over Sunday morning (June 7). Some reports say it was removed. 73.81.117.44 (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• Never mind. I didn't see it already there amongst all the statues. 73.81.117.44 (talk) 23:28, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

One Riot, One Range image

found this image of the One Riot, One Ranger statue, but it's pretty bad.... is it worth cropping and including? Found5dollar (talk) 20:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Found5dollar, I'd say something is better than nothing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

It'd be nice to find a crisper image, but here's a cropped version for now: File:One Riot, One Ranger 2009.jpg gobonobo ^{+ c} 05:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Gobonobo, Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:00, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Jacksonville monument

A monument in Jacksonville, FL was removed last night:

• https://www.news4jax.com/news/2020/06/09/confederate-statue-removed-from-jacksonville-park-by-city-crews-overnight/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:37, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub at Confederate Memorial (Jacksonville, Florida) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Statue of Edward Colston

The Statue of Edward Colston was today pulled down and thrown in the harbour in Bristol, England today, but I am not sure if it should be included in this list, as the lead says "it relates to "glorification of heroes of the Confederacy" which may not apply to Edward Colston but he was significant in the History of slavery.— Rod ^talk 21:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Colston's statue definitely belongs in the list. He was a slave trader and it was a Black Lives Matter demonstration. Currently the lead says that the common theme is the "historical mistreatment of African Americans through slavery, the glorification of the Confederacy, and other official misconduct affecting African Americans." Perhaps a slight rewording? gobonobo ^{+ c} 03:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

+1 ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:59, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Should this one be separated from the list? It appears in the middle of the list which is all American monuments. For some reason, it seems out of place. Govvy (talk) 13:49, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Govvy, Since there's now another entry for Belgium, I'd be fine having subsections for U.S. and otherwise. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: That looks better and makes much better sense in the global scope on the effect outside of the US in my opinion, good job. Govvy (talk) 15:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Govvy, Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Denton Confederate Soldier Monument

Per this diff, the Denton Confederate Soldier Monument is being relocated. Should we add to table? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:56, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Norschweden: Do you have a moment to update the table with this monument, if you agree? The Denton monument article has been updated further. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

This was already added by annother before i read your post, if there are any other ones that belong in there, please ping me again ^^ Norschweden (talk) 20:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Norschweden, Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Columbus statue in Boston?

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Should we add Statue of Christopher Columbus (North End, Boston) to the list? I should also note, there's actually another statue of Columbus in Boston, so I'll keep an eye out for possible updates there as well. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The statue has actually been removed by the city pending a historical review, so I say add it. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 19:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Spirit of Eagle, +1, Thanks for sharing source. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Looks like User:Norschweden has updated the page. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Jerry Richardson statue removed

The Jerry Richardosn statue outside the Carolina Panthers stadium. I dont have time to add it right now so just noting it here. [1]Found5dollar (talk) 00:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Also in sports news it seems NASCAR has banned the Confederate flag. [2]Found5dollar (talk) 00:15, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

This is a better URL for that article. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I've added the Richardson statue to the table. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:47, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Spirit of Eagle, I've added a link to the stub, Statue of Jerry Richardson. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

New pages

Just FYI, there are new pages for Confederate Soldiers and Sailors Monument (Birmingham, Alabama), Statue of Charles Linn, and Statue of Frank Rizzo. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Ditto:

• J. E. B. Stuart Monument
• Jefferson Davis Memorial (Richmond, Virginia)
• Matthew Fontaine Maury Monument
• Stonewall Jackson Monument

---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:02, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• + Statue of Raphael Semmes + Statue of Sam Davis ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• + One Riot, One Ranger + Statue of Williams Carter Wickham ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Statue of Robert Baden-Powell

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Shall we add Statue of Robert Baden-Powell? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:59, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Norschweden and Spirit of Eagle: Seem appropriate to add to international table? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes. deisenbe (talk) 16:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, removal has been officially announced based on the article. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 22:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

The table has been updated. Archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:13, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Richmond police memorial in Byrd Park

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[3] A police memorial was removed after being vandalized. The mayor's spokesperson said it will be "returned to public display" after restoration. This is still probably worth mentioning. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 22:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Richmond Police Memorial. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

The table has been updated. I will archive this section now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Hamilton, New Zealand

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Authorities in the city of Hamilton removed a bronze statue of Captain John Fane Charles Hamilton – the city’s namesake – who is accused of killing indigenous Maori people in the 1860s. ¶ The removal of the statue came after a Maori tribe requested it to be taken down, with one elder threatening to tear it down himself if officials did not act.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/john-hamilton-zealand-tears-down-080332062.html

deisenbe (talk) 09:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Statue of John Fane Charles Hamilton has been added to the table. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:05, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Salisbury Confederate Monument

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@Aumnamahashiva: You updated the table with Salisbury Confederate Monument. Is Gloria Victis (Confederate monument) the correct link? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:55, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that's the correct monument. Thanks for finding the link!Aumnamahashiva (talk) 12:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Statue of Christopher Columbus (Saint Paul, Minnesota)

The Statue of Christopher Columbus (Saint Paul, Minnesota) has been torn down ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

And added. We may want to start giving these statues names like "Statue of Columbus (Minnesota)" to better distinguish them if Columbus statues keep getting torn down. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 23:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Spirit of Eagle, If enough statues of Columbus are removed, we might actually just have a subsection for removed Columbus monuments... Just a thought. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

That's probably a good idea. We have no way of predicting how the removal of monuments will play out, but if we get enough of a certain category it makes a lot of sense to branch out. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 22:25, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

This statue has been added to the table. Archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:05, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Houston monuments

User:Carguychris' update here suggests we may need to add Spirit of the Confederacy and Statue of Richard W. Dowling to this list, and update the Wikipedia pages as well. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Done. Carguychris (talk) 15:55, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Carguychris, Thanks for updating the table. Hopefully we'll see the Wikipedia entries updated soon as well. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:57, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

We should keep an eye on Statue of Christopher Columbus (Houston) as well. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:59, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Jefferson Davis Statue in KY State Capital

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Vote today to remove Jefferson Davis Statue in KY State Capital. I can add later if no gets to it first. Sydney Poore/FloNightUser talk:FloNight 22:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

FloNight, Thanks! I've created a stub for Statue of Jefferson Davis (Frankfort, Kentucky). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

References

Table has been updated, so archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Csmden, N.J. Columbus statue

The Latest: Columbus statue taken down in Camden, New Jersey The Associated Press•June 11, 2020

https://news.yahoo.com/latest-jefferson-davis-statue-torn-044919793.html

deisenbe (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Thanks for the heads up. I've created a stub for Statue of Christopher Columbus (Camden, New Jersey). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:13, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Decatur, Georgia

Confederate monument being removed

https://decaturish.com/2020/06/judge-orders-removal-of-confederate-monument-in-decatur-square/

deisenbe (talk) 11:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Thanks. There's now a stub for DeKalb County Confederate Monument. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:26, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I've added the monument to the list. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:40, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Manchester, England

Statue of unnamed black removed as "degrading"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-53011156

deisenbe (talk) 11:33, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I've added the sundial. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:23, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Quincy, Florida

Confederate statue removed

https://www.wctv.tv/content/news/Gadsden-County-removes-confederate-statue--571205051.html

https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-news/leaders-hope-gadsden-county-moves-on-amicably-after-removal-of-confederate-monument

deisenbe (talk) 11:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done. gobonobo ^{+ c} 09:31, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

2 statues toppled at the University of Oregon in Eugene

• https://www.registerguard.com/news/20200613/photos-activists-topple-pioneer-statues-on-university-of-oregon-campus

The Pioneer (Eugene, Oregon) and The Pioneer Mother (Eugene, Oregon)

---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Iconoclasm in the United Kingdom during the George Floyd protests

I've created Iconoclasm in the United Kingdom during the George Floyd protests as a central page for all affected public art to include pieces which have not been protested but not removed. No Swan So Fine (talk) 08:11, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

African precedents

• Meldrum, Andrew (June 12, 2020). "Pulling down statues of racists? Africa's done it for years". Associated Press.

deisenbe (talk) 10:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Link has been added to EL section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:17, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Pioneer man and pioneer mother statues, University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon

https://www.koin.com/news/protests/jefferson-statue-toppled-in-north-portland-after-protest/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17

deisenbe (talk) 12:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Thanks! These have ben added to the table already. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:14, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Confederate Soldiers Monument (Durham, North Carolina)

@Deisenbe: Can you share why you added Confederate Soldiers Monument (Durham, North Carolina) to the See also section? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:24, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Sure. It's one of the first examples of a statue torn down by protestors. A predecessor of the George Floyd removals, just like the better-known Silent Sam is. deisenbe (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Thomas Jefferson Statue, Portland, Oregon

Thomas Jefferson statue toppled in Portland, Oregon CBS News CBSNews ,CBS News•June 15, 2020 A statue of Thomas Jefferson outside a high school named for him in North Portland, Oregon was toppled Sunday after a night of protests, reports CBS Portland, Oregon affiliate KOIN-TV.

https://news.yahoo.com/thomas-jefferson-statue-toppled-portland-094002062.html

https://www.koin.com/news/protests/jefferson-statue-toppled-in-north-portland-after-protest/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17

deisenbe (talk) 12:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Confederate Soldier Memorial (Huntsville, Alabama)

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Voted to be removed: Confederate Soldier Memorial (Huntsville, Alabama) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:50, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Norschweden and Spirit of Eagle: Seem appropriate to add? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:03, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I vote for inclusion. It belongs. It's going to go sooner or later, probably sooner, and the vote for its removal was unanimous. deisenbe (talk) 17:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

If they voted to remove it, then absent some really good explanation I think that's good enough to label as an impending removal. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Norschweden: I believe there's consensus to update the table here, if you're interested. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:12, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I have added the memorial to the list. This section can be archived if there is no further discussion. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:09, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Plaque, Salisbury, Maryland

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A plaque honoring Confederate Gen. John Winder was taken down Friday afternoon by Wicomico County.

https://www.delmarvanow.com/story/news/local/maryland/2020/06/12/confederate-general-john-winder-marker-removed-salisbury-wicomico/3175631001/

deisenbe (talk) 01:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Plaque has been added to the article. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:29, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Spirit of Eagle, Thanks! Archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

US Forces Korea Bans Display of Confederate Flag on Bases, Vehicles Military.com Richard Sisk ,Military.com•June 15, 2020

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https://news.yahoo.com/us-forces-korea-bans-display-140402721.html

deisenbe (talk) 20:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Another editor added in this removal. This section can be archived as appropriate. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 18:37, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Confederate plaque removed from Maryland State House

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/civil-war-plaque-removed-maryland-state-house/2020/06/15/240e3f42-af29-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html

deisenbe (talk) 08:16, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Plaque has been added to article. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:53, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Statue of white supremacist Josephus Daniels removed, Raleigh N.C.

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Statue of white supremacist Josephus Daniels removed from Raleigh's Nash Square

https://abc11.com/josephus-daniels-statue-raleigh-white-supremacist/6249869/

In North Carolina this is a big deal. deisenbe (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, I've created a stub for Statue of Josephus Daniels, but I've not updated this table. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:27, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've updated the table. This section can be archived as appropriate. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Columbus removed in St. Louis

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https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/columbus-statue-taken-down-in-tower-grove-park-in-st-louis/article_94764b8c-8b49-536e-bc45-fb7d856b7ce9.html Bridges2Information (talk) 18:40, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I've not updated the table, but I've created a stub for Statue of Christopher Columbus (St. Louis). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:21, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Another editor updated the table. This section can be archived as appropriate. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2020

A statue of Columbus was removed in Tower Grove Park in St. Louis, MO Today: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/columbus-statue-coming-down-in-tower-grove-park/article_94764b8c-8b49-536e-bc45-fb7d856b7ce9.html 2600:6C40:5800:19F:A537:8329:326B:DA5E (talk) 15:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

See above. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Cherokee Confederate Monuments

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Two COnfederate monuments were removed by the Cherokee nation from the Cherokee Nation Capitol Square: [4]. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:13, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Tahlequah, Oklahoma

Cherokee Nation removes Confederate monuments from Capitol Square

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/cherokee-nation-removes-confederate-monuments-capitol-square/MZ7T765IARDXFEXWOT6TNXRJ7I/

deisenbe (talk) 12:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

New Zealand Restaurant named for Pacific slave trader William Bully Hayes being renamed

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https://web.archive.org/web/20200611012951/https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121772817/akaroa-restaurant-named-after-notorious-slave-trader-seeks-new-name

deisenbe (talk) 20:27, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Someone added this to the main article awhile ago. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

5 columbus statues removed

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• Detroit Mich
• Chula Vista, Calif.
•  Done New London, Conn.
• middletown, Conn.
• Columbia, S.C.

https://news.yahoo.com/cities-removing-christopher-columbus-statues-202115898.html

deisenbe (talk) 21:52, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Statue of Christopher Columbus (New London, Connecticut) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:48, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for the bust in Detroit: Bust of Christopher Columbus (Detroit) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Statue of Christopher Columbus (Chula Vista, California) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:46, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Statue of Christopher Columbus (Middletown, Connecticut) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:53, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Statue of Christopher Columbus (Columbia, South Carolina) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:17, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for the many posts here -- just trying to keep track of which monuments have articles or not, and which have been added to the table, or not. For the record, all the monuments you've mentioned here now have stubs, but only the one marked "done" has been added to the table, for now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:17, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I added the missing ones to the list, and double-checked that each of the five have pages and are in the template. Everything is done now. Normal Op (talk) 21:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Columbus statue, Middletown, Conn.

Removed temporarily

https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/middlesex/christopher-columbus-statue-temporarily-removed-in-middletown-mayor-says-it-hasnt-been-vandalized/

deisenbe (talk) 23:19, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, I've created a stub at Statue of Christopher Columbus (Middletown, Connecticut) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:54, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Gulfport MS votes to not fly state flag

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and asks legislature to change it.

https://wgno.com/news/a-mississippi-city-took-down-the-state-flag-because-of-the-confederate-battle-flag/

deisenbe (talk)

Done. Normal Op (talk) 22:15, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Confederate portraits (four) being taken down in U.S. House of Representatives

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jun/18/john-bolton-donald-trump-black-lives-matter-juneteenth-live-updates?page=with:block-5eeb82108f08cf3f3513662f#block-5eeb82108f08cf3f3513662f

Don't confuse these with the statues in the capitol, like Mississippi's Jefferson Davis (Lukeman). Even Florida wanting to get rid of hers of Edward Kirby Smith, it's taking years (and no one in Florida wants the statue). deisenbe (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! - Featous (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Columbus, Ohio, removing statue from city hall

Plus another one at Columbus State Community College

https://radio.wosu.org/post/columbus-remove-christopher-columbus-statue-city-hall#stream/0

deisenbe (talk) 23:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Thanks! This one has already been added to the table. I will archive this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Two statues in Columbus Ohio

One in state capitol, one at Columbus State Community College

https://www.cleveland.com/nation/2020/06/ohio-college-to-remove-statue-of-christopher-columbus.html

deisenbe (talk) 23:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Do you mean City Hall and CSCC? If so, both are already listed in the table. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed that. deisenbe (talk) 23:48, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, No worries at all! Archiving this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:49, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Navbox?

I've started a discussion at Template talk:George Floyd protests whether we should include the articles about individual monuments and memorials in Template:George Floyd protests. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

There's now a navbox for monuments and memorials at Template:Monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests. gobonobo ^{+ c} 12:58, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2020

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For Norfolk Confederate Monument please change "Plans for removal by City" to "Removed by city". That statue was removed by crane June 12, 2020, the column will soon be dismantled.

https://www.pilotonline.com/government/local/vp-nw-norfolk-confederate-monument-20200612-xorrkgegmrg2bcewck3xvuosyu-story.html 72.209.210.254 (talk) 03:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

 Partly done: Updated to include that the Johnny Reb statue atop the monument was removed. Going to hold off on saying that the monument was removed until the whole thing is gone. Interestingly, this monument is on the site of a former slave auction. gobonobo ^{+ c} 05:06, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

school renamings, Port Arthur Texas

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I am not making a starement about where this should be treated. New Orleans three years ago renamed all schools named for slaveowners, including George Washington.

Port Arthur ISD trustees voted Thursday to strip Confederate names from two of its elementary schools that memorialize Dick Dowling and Robert E. Lee, saying that the new names are "neutral" and "bring people together." Trustees narrowly voted to change the name of Dick Dow-ling Elementary School to Port Acres Elementary School in a 4-3 vote. Trustees Kenneth W. Lofton Sr., the Rev. Donald R. Frank Sr. and board secretary Brandon Bartie voted against the name change, deferring comments to the board president.

Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee and Lt. Richard "Dick" Dowling will "always be in our books but not on our buildings," said board president Debra Ambroise.

The vote to change Robert E. Lee Elementary to Lakeview Elementary was less contentious, with trustees voting 6-1 in favor of the name switch. The new names are effective immediately.

https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/news/article/PAISD-will-change-Confederate-school-names-13338800.php

Note that Dowling statue NOT going to Sabine Pass as previously announced https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/article/Happening-now-Bartie-news-conference-on-15336444.php

deisenbe (talk) 11:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

It looks like the name-change of the elementary schools was approved and went into effect October 2018 rather than during the 2020 protests (for the record, I completely overlooked this myself and only noticed when I had already compiled most of the table information). As for Sabine Pass, this is now referenced in the article. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:41, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Subsection for Christopher Columbus?

Should we create a subsection under U.S. for statues of Christoper Columbus? There are quite a few now... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I support this: it would help with organizational and make it easier to find specific statues. By my count, there are already five Columbus statues in the article and there are several more that should be added. Perhaps we could divide the American section into three parts: Confederate, Columbus, and "other statues". Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Spirit of Eagle, Feel free to improve further, but I've taken a first stab at a subsection w/ table. I'm sure the first column can be removed since all cells say "Statue of Christopher Columbus". ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:07, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

These subsections are a good idea. I'd also suggest breaking lists down further into statues that have been removed and those that are due to be removed. Konli17 (talk) 07:47, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Deleting content from descriptions

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@Featous: What exactly are you trying to accomplish with all of these deletions? [5][6][7] gobonobo ^{+ c} 19:10, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Keeping the height of description cells less than three times every other cell height when my widescreen is in my typical configuration of two browser windows side by side, which is roughly the width of my laptop window. Before I started trimming, some single rows took up most the height of my screen. Given all the good work that has been done creating separate articles, there is little reason have all the detail here. But I'll stop trimming. Cheers, Featous (talk) 19:23, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Statue of John Sutter, Sacramento, Calif.

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Sacramento John Sutter Statue Removed After Recent Vandalism June 15, 2020 at 2:44 pm

A 19th-century European settle and pioneer, Sutter founded the Sutter’s Fort trading post in what would eventually become California’s capital city. His legacy includes not just that fort, but also several landmarks, schools, a mountain range, and even a county named after him.

His legacy isn’t without controversy, as activists and historians have highlighted. Sutter’s record with Native Americans has come under scrutiny in recent years, with some historians saying he enslaved hundreds of natives as part of his business.

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/06/15/sacramento-john-sutter-statue-removed/

deisenbe (talk) 22:29, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, I've created a stub for Statue of John Sutter, but the table has not been updated yet. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:37, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/statue-of-colonizer-john-sutter-removed-after-being-defaced-in-sacramento/ar-BB15zIEx deisenbe (talk) 19:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Update: This statue has been added to the table. I will archive this section. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Richmond va. - statue at Howitzers Monument pulled down

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/third-confederate-statue-toppled-by-protesters-in-richmond/2020/06/17/9f318446-b054-11ea-8f56-63f38c990077_story.html deisenbe (talk) 08:53, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I added it to the list. I have NOT added it to the template, nor created a page for the statue. It does appear on List of Confederate monuments and memorials in Virginia. Normal Op (talk) 18:06, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Another Believer, can you make a page for this monument? And add it to the template? (Looks like you're the main person doing that). Normal Op (talk) 20:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Normal Op, There are several new additions needing articles. I'll get to this when I can! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Howitzer Monument. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Sacramento

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• https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/06/16/christopher-columbus-statue-to-be-removed-from-capitol-rotunda-in-sacramento/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:57, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Here's another Statue removed in Sacramento. Can somebody explain or just point to the directions on how to edit the new template for this list? I've been editing for 15 years now and never heard of an RM row. I thought I figured it out but no. This is too complicated with no instructions. Thanks in advance. Kire1975 (talk) 15:08, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

You almost had it; just put a |} on the line beneath your addition. This will basically close off the section so you will get the tables you currently see; without that symbol the table will gobble up the rest of the article. (Quick note: you only need to do this when your addition is the last listing in the table). Spirit of Eagle (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Spirit of Eagle:: I was using the template. Do I enter a new RM row box or a content box for the |}? Thanks. Kire1975 (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Instructions at Template:RM row... such as they are. Normal Op (talk) 17:13, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Kire1975::The entire table is bounded by two symbols: a {| at the start of the code and a |} at the end of the code. Its not a part of any specific row or content box. Think of the two symbols as bread and the row/content boxes as lunch meat; if you don't have two slices of bread/the {| & |} outside the lunch meat/boxes, then you will end up with a mess on your hand. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 17:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I've created a stub for Columbus' Last Appeal to Queen Isabella ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Columbus statue in California capitol

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A statue depicting Christopher Columbus that has been the centerpiece of the California Capitol rotunda since 1883 will be removed after legislative leaders decided it is out of place “given the deadly impact his arrival in this hemisphere had on indigenous populations."

https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2020/06/17/california-remove-columbus-statue-state-capitol/3206115001/

deisenbe (talk) 23:28, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Deisenbe, Thanks! There's a section above for this statue, and I've created a stub for Columbus' Last Appeal to Queen Isabella. Shall we archive this section? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

As you see fit. deisenbe (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:10, 19 June 2020 (UTC)