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Kardashians
editSince this is "humorous units" what about "Kardashians", marrage units of 72 days. There are 306,000 results when you do a google search for "Kardashian Calculator".
I think the best cites I could find is
- Sager, Jeanne (3 November 2011). "Kardashian Marriage Calculator Proves Reality TV Is Missing Out on Real Love". The Stir. Retrieved 25 June 2013.
--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 13:02, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- I added Kardashians yesterday, only for the edits to be reverted by User:Rhialto. I understand why the edits were reverted, and I certainly don't want to begin an edit war over it, but I do have some more reliable sources. This unit was mentioned in the 2016 Guinness World Records book. 1618033goldenc0ntr1b5 14:06, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
- The quick revert was because as per wp:bio, anything that relates to an actual person should have some fairly solid cites, over and above the usual standard for a humorous unit of measurement. Find me a couple of cites of the unit being used as a unit, and not as a reference to a unit conversion tool, and I'd call it good. Rhialto (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
megafun
editThe Onion once warned of China's firework capacity, describing it in "megafuns". I always liked that. It's my own measurement of fun. Amulekii (talk) 22:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Couric
editBeginning in episode "More Crap" South Park uses the Couric as a measurement of any given unit of human feces. 174.106.242.181 (talk) 10:51, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Lenat
editWhy Lenat for bogosity? Unlike other sections (Helen, Dirac, Fonzie, puppy...), there's no mention of the connection and the article on Douglas Lenat contains nothing relevant. --Thnidu (talk) 14:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Citation added that gives the connection. Hertz1888 (talk) 16:28, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
World Peace and Stability Index
edithttp://anoopdixith.com/cnn/ is a personal website, and as such it is not a suitable source for a wikipedia cite. I suspect this item has no validity as an actual unit used. Standard web searches reveal no other sites using this measure. Rhialto (talk) 16:35, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Great Underground Empire (Zork)
editCan somebody explain the popular legend about the history of the foot mentioned in this section? I didn't find any sources. Luzian (talk) 23:11, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Fuckton
editSurely we cannot omit the metric fuckton? Correctrix (talk) 08:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Humor impaired people deleting a humor thread. Do they even own a mirror? rosebud (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- See also shitload / shedload. Do you have a source for it? What are its dimensions and magnitude?
- Terms like this don't belong here because they're words but they're not units. I can build a bridge in Smoots (crazy, but I could) and I can tell you how many gnat's crotchets are in a second, but I can't do that with fuckton. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:48, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ah.... the topic is units of measure. Since this is a humor thread, conversion of units may be considered optional rosebud (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- You can't, but there may be room at Wiktionary for all the above, where specifics aren't actually needed... TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 15:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Capitalize
editIn real life, units of measure are capitalized only if they use a proper name, based on a person or place, otherwise they are lower case. For example, "Ohm" is capped, "foot" is not. I presume the same rule should be followed here. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Lovelace
editThe article gives Ada Lovelace as the etymology, but the original source doesn't mention her. It seems more likely the unit of suckage would be honouring Linda Lovelace. 47.72.180.185 (talk) 03:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
That seems eminently likely... TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 06:01, 26 September 2015 (UTC)06:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)- As the person who invented the unit, I can assure you that it refers to Linda Lovelace, as it's intended to measure how much something sucks. JDZeff (talk) 03:21, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Citation(s) added to the article would be helpful.Acwilson9 (talk) 06:10, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- As the person who invented the unit, I can assure you that it refers to Linda Lovelace, as it's intended to measure how much something sucks. JDZeff (talk) 03:21, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi all, my edit was reverted so I'm taking this to the talk page (probably should have done this first). In the revert, the section was reinstated but not the link to the source which was a Usenet alt.sysadmin.recovery FAQ page. It follows that there is no valid source for this entry. I therefore request for this entry to be removed from the list.
- I add that regardless of whether the unit in question is dishonouring Ada Lovelace (which, this being about software, readers of the article will most likely assume it does) or porn star Linda Lovelace, this is a sexist joke the humor of which is questionable. Another reason for removal is thus that this unit of measurement is in fact not "humorous" (in the sense of "causing laughter and amusement"). BradBrad13 (talk) 20:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I reverted your edit because I did not think sexism is considered grounds for censorship on Wikipedia. If a reliable source is not found, I would not object to removing the entry on those grounds, but it is normal to wait a reasonable time to give other editors a chance to find a source. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 20:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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Redundancy: Truckfactor
editAs defined in the article, Truckfactor is not really a unit of measurement, but rather a numeric ratio or figure of merit or performance measure. It is analogous to price-performance ratio or margin of error, in that it is dimensionless number without a defined unit of measure. I have refrained from deleting Truckfactor to avoid discouraging the IP editor who added it in good faith, but this informative addition really needs to be moved to a more appropriate article. Reify-tech (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Another possibility is factor of safety. I doubt there is an article for humorous dimensionless numbers, so perhaps Truckfactor could be added to the article on FOS. It is a useful concept for planning and staffing critically important projects, even if it is named semihumorously. Reify-tech (talk) 14:43, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Some more digging has turned up the article Bus factor, which mentions "truck factor" as a synonym. Any suggestions on how to clean this up diplomatically and efficiently? Reify-tech (talk) 14:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Also, the Erdős number is another dimensionless metric which is somewhat analogous. Reify-tech (talk) 14:51, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
I found the article List of dimensionless quantities also. I have to go now, so I leave it to other interested editors to comment or come up with suggestions. Reify-tech (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
- I deleted it, before seeing this comment. The problem is that there's no reference, no indication that it's used by anybody but the IP who made it up. This article has long drawn suggestions of "funny" units and they've always been deleted, for obvious reasons. If there's no reference of anybody actually using this term in the real world, it should't be included in any article; that's the first step. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Mickey
editA mickey is a unit of liquor equal to .375 litres, according to the LCBO website.
I'm just guessing, but I imagine this is a crude approximation of some previous volume in Imperial or some other odd kind of fluid ounces.
David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 08:48, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Also, the mickey as currently described in the article (smallest distance resolved by a computer pointing device, aka mouse) should be removed, as this unit of measurement is anything but humorous, except for the etymology of the name. The unit was in actual use in the computing industry, at least in the DOS era. 2A0A:A546:A218:0:6CB1:27B0:A11F:696A (talk) 11:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well, the name is still humorous, so I do not think it should be removed. --Bduke (talk) 20:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Obstruction: Pouter
editI have access to the full text of the book claimed as a reference. Without a page reference, this cite claim is effectively impossible to verify; certainly, I haven't been able to verify it with a basic eyeball search. Rhialto (talk) 08:47, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
However, this raises the secondary problem that it appears the section text has been lifted substantially (considering the section length) from the source. An additional problem with listing the pouter unit is the fact that it is simply not notable. Outside of a single organisation, it never saw usage, and it hasn't really entered popular usage either (except in so far as pop culture sometimes latches on to things in wikipedia itself, making for a circular sourcing).
Add a new unit, "Rascular Density"
edit....Which is defined by the outdoor writer Tim Cahill as "The number of bona fide sons-of-bitches per square mile" in his book Road Fever, if memory serves. I'd just edit it in myself but I'm brand-new to Wikipedia editing and I don't want to step on any toes. Also it might need to be placed in a new category-- sociological, perhaps?
Cheers RH
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Pirate ninja
editpirate ninja is defined in section "Energy" as work per unit time, which is, sadly, power. Basic physics fail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.26.59.128 (talk) 03:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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change Shortz to shortz Tallpauldoll (talk) 06:04, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Not done Joshq.JQ 18:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
"Nibble" should be deleted from this list
editAs correctly explained, it is a quite normal and useful unit used in computer science. The name might sound peculiar, but is commonly used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.214.148.220 (talk) 10:12, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
I was bold and deleted it. It is in List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement and logically should not be in both. -- GhostInTheMachine (talk) 12:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Egg Bushels per Hen Acre
editNot strictly humorous but this unit was encountered as the gradient of a graph in an old book/paper/journal on, presumably, farming. The graph was (obviously) comparing eggs per hen against bushels per acre for some reason. Sawatts (talk) 16:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Must be a measure of poultry feed effectiveness - X hens scratching around eating bugs on Y acres produced Z eggs (measured by bushels rather than numbers or weight, not the modern method) - how much should you give them supplement feed to reach your production goal? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 18:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
PERSKY
editPERSKY 1/10th of a SCARAMUCCI. Length of time, 1 day, Ex-Federal Judge AARON PERSKY lasted in his new job as Girls Junior Varsity Tennis Coach at Lynbrook High School in San Jose, California. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100F:B019:230B:B481:C786:3D43:6A8B (talk) 22:34, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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To whoever finds this -
Irritability: gkB The Swedish video game magazine Sega Force, nr 1, 1994, measured irritation in "gram knäckeBröd", or grams of crispbread crumbs per cm² in a bed where you've just laid down to sleep. The Sega Genesis game "T2 The Movie" had an irritation level of 8.6 gkB, which is so high that you'll need an oxygen mask, and dangerously close to the berzerk limit, which is Sweden is just over 9 gkB if the summer's been nice. [49]
which is Sweden is just over 9
which in Sweden is just over 9
Thanks
Pizza
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The board of the Finnish subject association Ynnä ry in Jyväskylä officially uses the time measurement "pizza" to refer to exactly 20 minutes. Source: Board meeting transcript 20/2019 which is publicly available on the website of the association. Lare290 (talk) 14:00, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:11, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Why was "Mooch" removed?
editThis article used to include "Mooch in the units of time. It is 11 days -- the amount of time Anthony Scaramucci worked for the Trump administration. I'm inclined to put it back, but thought a discussion is in order. 206.8.2.238 (talk) 20:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Insufficient usage; it flitted through the snark-o-sphere and then disappeared. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 21:31, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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Milliblatt, An Olfactory measurement.
According to the Seminal Computer history book, Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution by Steven Levy, In the 60's there was a general state of "Grunginess" (Chapter 4, page 63).
And I quote: "Cleanliness was apparently a low priority, since tales abounded of his noticeable grunginess. (Later Greenblatt would insist that he was no worse than some of the others.) Some hackers recall that one of the things Greenblatt’s hacking precluded was regular bathing, and the result was a powerful odor(sic). The joke around the AI lab was that there was a new scientific olfactory measure called a milliblatt. One or two milliblatts was extremely powerful, and one full blatt was just about inconceivable. To decrease the milliblatts, the story goes, hackers maneuvered Greenblatt to a place in the hallway of Building 20 where there was an emergency shower for cases of accidental exposure to chemicals, and let it rip." 2A02:C7D:DE2B:700:D9AE:BB2A:5D64:C156 (talk) 13:21, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- @1.Ayana: Done. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 10:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Hertz per diopter
editNot sure if anyone else has ever used this unit, so I doubt it's all that notable, but just on the off chance that someone else has thought of this...
A "hertz per diopter" is a fancy way of saying a "meter per second". This is because a hertz is the inverse of a second, and a diopter is the inverse of a meter, so dividing them in that fashion places the meters on top and the seconds on the bottom, giving meters per second.
(This is my first ever wikipedia edit, please be kind and welcoming! 🙂)
Ekolis (talk) 05:04, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. A lovely idea, but I too doubt it is notable. --Bduke (talk) 05:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, welcome. I found this example of its use, and encourage you to find more. I suspect the hertz per dioptre is more notable than the pirate-ninja. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 18:57, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
CCC system
editWould the CCC system described in this video be right for this page? It was created for humourous effect and is a fully-fledged system of measurement, so I'd argue it is. 2A02:C7F:AEBF:8A00:653E:2657:604A:ADF8 (talk) 21:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's clearly humorous. Is it also notable? Dondervogel 2 (talk) 22:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, the full thing is called "The 7 C's", it has units covering all aspects of the SI system, but the units only fit 3/7 of the quantities in the SI system, like middle C (Hz) replacing time with frequency, with time expressed as "per Middle C", etc TG977 (talk) 12:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- But is it notable as in recognized by many folks / many places? There a lots of funny systems invented by individuals but that's not what this article is for. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:04, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- I don't exactly see how that would affect it being in place much tbh, a lot of the systems/units present on the page don't seem to really fit that. I certainly don't see anyone using barn-parsecs unironically online anywhere, though, I'm not exactly in the right communities for any unit discussion. I've found a few forums of the CCC system being discussed through a simple google search, and the video itself is viewed quite a lot. Not sure what else you would mean by it being "notable". TG977 (talk) 08:18, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think it counts as notable. The video in question describing the system has 421000 views (as of this reply), which likely makes it more well-known than at least some of these units. I say put it in. Trogdor147 (talk) 23:37, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
- But is it notable as in recognized by many folks / many places? There a lots of funny systems invented by individuals but that's not what this article is for. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:04, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, the full thing is called "The 7 C's", it has units covering all aspects of the SI system, but the units only fit 3/7 of the quantities in the SI system, like middle C (Hz) replacing time with frequency, with time expressed as "per Middle C", etc TG977 (talk) 12:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Attribution
editText and references copied from List of humorous units of measurement to Muggeseggele, See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Barn-megaparsec
editA barn-megaparsec is closer to 30L
~3.1E22m*1E-24m^2=.03m^3
Not even close to 3ml 2600:100E:B13C:4FE4:DA0B:E0E:4628:FCAF (talk) 15:48, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- One barn is equal to 1E-28 m^2, and you have the correct conversion for megaparsec at 3.1E+22 m, so one barn-megaparsec is 3.1E-6 m^3 = 3.1 mL BradBrad13 (talk) 20:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Kim Kardashian's Ass
editIn October 10, 2016, the Spanish Youtuber Ter Ter proposed in a video the implementation of Kim Kardashian's Ass as a unit of volume equivalent to 0,047 m³ inspired by Le Corbusier's Modulor FallFaith (talk) 17:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- Individuals thinking up "funny" units are a dime a dozen. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 17:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm trying to think of a unit based on 12 people divided by 10 cents. EEng 04:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Pirate-ninja similar unit 'watts per sol'.
editWith regard to: Pirate-ninja A pirate-ninja is defined as one kilowatt-hour (3.6 MJ) per Martian day, or sol. It is equivalent to approximately 40.55 watts. It is used in the novel The Martian by Andy Weir. Weir said in a 2015 interview that the Curiosity rover team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory uses the similar unit 'watts per sol' in their meetings, and the team told Weir that they should just call them milli-pirate-ninjas
A kWh per Martian day would not be in the unit 'watts' or watts per sol; it would be some unit of energy (J, or watt-seconds, something like that). A pirate-ninja would be 40.55 watt HOURS per sol, not 40.55 watts per sol.
2600:1700:4CA1:3C80:39BA:EC3:2747:22E4 (talk) 02:37, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
It should be 'watt-hours per sol', not just 'watts per sol'. Weir also called it 'watt-hours per sol' in the interview. — Веон (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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Addition to heading 7: Time - "Truss" - One Truss being equal to 44 days, the length of time Liz Truss served as Prime Minister of The United Kingdom. Referenced by Anthony Scaramuchi as being equal to "4.1 Scaramuchis" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Scaramucci/status/1583077679439695872
(sorry if this is the incorrect format for this request, this is my first time editing/requesting an edit to Wikipedia) NoCountryForOldPete (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now: This needs coverage in independent secondary sources to demonstrate that it is noteworthy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:12, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Bad link
editLovelace is linked to an actor in adult movies instead of the famous computer scientist! Please correct. -- 84.144.77.75 (talk) 01:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, that certainly was a boner! Fixed. EEng 11:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- No, that's the "right" Lovelace for this adolescent joke - it's a blowjob joke, get it, the software "sucks"! ha ha, so clever! Read the FAQ that's sourced. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- In mitigation I'll just say that I was on my phone and didn't read past the second word of the paragraph. EEng 15:28, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- No, that's the "right" Lovelace for this adolescent joke - it's a blowjob joke, get it, the software "sucks"! ha ha, so clever! Read the FAQ that's sourced. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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change the page regarding humourous units of measurement to include the thurb. 1 thurb being two packets of Thai Kitchen Gluten Free Rice Noodles or enough to satisfy one thursby curtis. Veratux (talk) 02:20, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LilianaUwU (talk / contribs) 02:22, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
Riker as a unit of Beard Fullness
editRiker (Beard Fullness)
editThe "Riker" unit is a measure of beard fullness based on the fictional character Commander William T. Riker from Star Trek: The Next Generation, who is known for his distinctive beard. [1][2][3]
"Riker" units (R) are dimensionless and on a nonlinear scale from 0 to 4, where:
- 0 Riker (R0) = No beard, similar to Riker in the first season of Star Trek: TNG
- 1 Riker (R1) = A typical Riker beard, as seen from the second season onward
- 2 Rikers (R2) = A beard twice as full as a typical Riker beard
- 3 Rikers (R3) = A beard three times as full as a typical Riker beard
- 4 Rikers (R4) = Any beard greater than the alternate universe version of Riker's beard in Parallels (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
Kickasstimus (talk) 19:04, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://www.startrek.com/article/rrikers-beard-no-shave-november?amp
- ^ https://www.reddit.com/r/beards/comments/108433/i_propose_the_riker_be_official_unit_by_which/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
- ^ https://twitter.com/Pierre_Markuse/status/950146983494344704
Henderson Scale
editI'd like to suggest adding the "Henderson Scale of Plot Derailment" to non-conventional units. Not quite sure if it is notable enough, but I've seen it used in multiple places.
It's used in TTRPGs, named after a write up of a game. 1 Henderson is full derailment of the main plot, 0 is no effect on the plot, negative numbers solve the plot and both fractional Hendersons (such as derailing only part of the main story or derailing a subplot) and higher numbers (such as ruining the entire game and having to start a new one) are possible. 73.223.126.104 (talk) 07:16, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- Are there reliable sources for this? EEng 12:58, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2023
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Add "banana for scale" measurement. See: [1] 2601:280:4300:8240:EE9E:9A33:87EC:78EC (talk) 10:07, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: Know Your Meme is not considered a reliable source. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:55, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- The "banana for scale" is used so often on Reddit it's basically common knowledge for anyone on Reddit. I don't think we need sources for common knowledge, let me know if you concur. Found additional sources.[2][3][4] Geordannik (talk) 12:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- We need a source. The number of "funny" measurements that are common knowledge within specific groups is huge. Without sources we'd be flooded with them, with no way to judge their importance unless you're part of the in-crowd. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- The "banana for scale" is used so often on Reddit it's basically common knowledge for anyone on Reddit. I don't think we need sources for common knowledge, let me know if you concur. Found additional sources.[2][3][4] Geordannik (talk) 12:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
References
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. All of these fall under WP:USERGENERATED. Jamedeus (talk) 16:46, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Angstrom-Acre
editThis needs to be added to the Volume section: a short length by a wide(ish) area, to compare with the great length by a small ares of the barn-parsec. Roughly .025 cu. in.
Originates in the question "Which is the greater volume, a barn-lightyear or an angstrom-acre?" (The answer is the angstrom-acre...) 2600:1700:AB10:2AC0:9069:76E8:9EBA:2E93 (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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Sentence with too many verbs in the Standardised Giraffe Unit section: "The agency defines defined the SGU in terms of other animals as shown in the adjoining table."
In the Thaum section a preposition is missing: "...the thaum is basic unit of magical strength..." 87.52.110.88 (talk) 06:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done. 〜 Askarion ✉ 13:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Barrer
editThe Barrer is a rather obscure unit of measurement, which describes gas permeability. While it is a unit that is actually in use, and it does have an SI definition, its original definition in the CGS system, which insisted on having only centimeters, grams, and seconds as units of measurement and deriving everything from there, is
10^-10((cm^3STP*cm)/(cm^2*s*cmHg))
Yes, you read that right. centimeters are in this unit four times. And does not cancel out. And while, as mentioned above, there is an SI definition, the CGS definition is actually used in research papers to this very day. HolyPastrami (talk) 00:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The fact that it's a real unit of measure used in the real world, even if it is a weird one, means this is not the article for it. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 01:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- See Barrer for explanation of the different centimetres in the definition. —Tamfang (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)