Talk:List of equipment of the Defense Forces of Georgia

MIA and Military

MIA is a civilian law enforcement agency, while the GAF is the country's military defence force. It seems that isn't clear for everyone. Please don't put items of the MIA into this article .... thank you ! TheMightyGeneral (talk) 14:43, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Modern equipment of the Georgian Army

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Modern equipment of the Georgian Army's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ReferenceA":

• From Serbia: http://pod2.stat.gov.rs/ObjavljenePublikacije/Popis2011/Knjiga4_Veroispovest.pdf
• From R-77: Barrie, Douglas and Pyadushkin, Maxim. "R-77, R-73 Missile Upgrades Emerge". Aviation Week. 13 August 2009
• From Buk missile system: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/buk-2m/buk-2m.shtml
• From Georgian Land Forces: საქართველოს თავდაცვის სამინისტრო. Mod.gov.ge. Retrieved on November 5, 2013.
• From Ukraine: The New York Times, "Dozens of Separatists Killed in Ukraine Army Attack", By SABRINA TAVERNISE and ANDREW ROTHMAY 27, 2014
• From ZU-23-2: http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Land-Based-Air-Defence/ZU-23M-Egypt.html

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Figure on equipment

Those numbers are redicilous. Please at least delete numbers on equipment because most of them are overblown. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 11:21, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Heavy issues with availability of equipment and mixing up of military and police

The Georgian Armed Forces use their own specific equipment The armed units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia use their own specific equipment

But both inventory got heavily mixed up here

Only the MIA of Georgia uses the H&K G-36 and the IMI TAR-21. AS Val is debatable, but so far this weapon is extensively used by MIA only. Same with VSS Vintorez. AS and VSS only used by police. edit: AS Val and VSS Vintorez have been confirmed in service of the SF.

Georgian army special forces do not use TAR-21. They use the AK-74 and AR-15 variants / M4 sopmod.

The FN SCAR is not in use by any agency or military unit. That is desinformation and neither source is valid. Random photo cannot be considered as source. Plus it could be an airsoft rifle. Not able to clearly determine.

Georgia does not have the H&K 416. The Georgian police "recently" (2013) purchased MK18 carbines for their anti-crime and anti-terror departments. But no H&K 416. The military also does not have that rifle.

G13 (here G-5 for whatever reason) is not a service rifle. It's a prototype carbine that didn't go into production. So it's neither being produced, nor used.

What is "P-9" ? Delta didn't produce a pistol with that designation. There are two pistols Delta has made and those are the 9mm "Scorpion" and 9mm "Lion". Those two pistols are yet to be made production ready and that won't happen untill 2015-2016. So GAF has not yet a domesticaly made service pistol.

Georgia is not listed as one of the operators of the "MGL" grenade launcher in the ref provided and also no other source cites that Georgia uses that weapon.

The HK45 is only used by police forces

Source for ATGM weopons please. So far only Fagot and Metis launchers are confirmed.

The numbers in the vehicle section are overblown and false. Edit: Some of the vehicle figures are overblown and false, including T-72

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Aircraft Inventory

The numbers and planes/helicopters in the aircraft section do not match up with the georgian air force inventory page. Many of the figures have no sources, and seem quite unreliable. I don't have enough knowledge of the georgian air force to make any changes, but if anyone does this page is in desperate need of revision. Toastmasters8 (talk) 12:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Toastmasters8:. Some of the current figures are from SSII (Military Balance) 2022 and SIPRI Arms Transfers Database. I checked and fixed the ones using them as reference. Unfortunately I am unable to access the latest SSII (2024), though doubt that anything or much has really changed in regards to numbers. I understand your frustration. There isn't much other reliable sources rn, or that I know of. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 17:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Number and type of RM-70 multiple rocket launchers in inventory?

I was reading the section and noticed a number of "Grad" variants in the Georgian Army inventory. When I went out to see what the Czech RM-70 was all about, I came across two anomalies:

1) According to the RM-70 WIKI page (Current Operators), Georgia has 180 units, not the 53 mentioned here. 2) According to the RM-70 page, Georgia has 180 "upgraded" RM-70's.

Now the RM-70 comes in several different variants. The RM-70 base model, an improved RM-70/85 (aka RM-70M), the RM-70/85M, the RM-70 Modular, and the RM-70 Vampire.

Each version has improvements to the base truck, or to navigation, to fire control, or, with the "Modular" variant, full NATO interoperability with the ability to also fire: US HIMARS type missiles.

The final "Vampire" version not only has a new underlying truck chassis and engine, but is also fully armored, similar to the indigenous RS-122. (Whether it is "Modular" as well, is unstated.)

I raise this issue since if the Georgian Military has 180 vehicles on hand, then the RM-70 would be far and away the most important vehicle in this category. Also of interest, would be which "Type" they have, whether the RM-70M, RM-70/85M, RM-70 Modular or the RM-70 Vampire?

Georgia's push to become a NATO member might lead one to think that they have acquired the Modular version, which then begs the question of whether the US is willing to provide any HIMARS type missiles?

It would be nice to have this 'fleshed out' by someone who has this information!

James 202.44.216.250 (talk) 09:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

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Sourced numbers SSII and SIPRI

Latest SIPRI and SSII 2022 provide numbers, including purchases, to a good portion of the Georgian military equipment. I added the figures provided by those two sources, but the article requires some clean up. If you find more up to date references, please use them here. I'll gladly help if you have trouble deciding whether they where useful. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 17:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)