Talk:List of Internet phenomena/Archive 12

Tourettes

I request Tourettes Guy removed. The "official" link is broken or never existed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.12.249 (talk) 13:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Requested addition of "The dress (viral phenomenon)"

Please add in "The Dress" to the list of Internet phenomena in the images section. Sorry if I cannot add this in because of the lack of time I do have. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 08:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

It's already present, added shortly after it went viral. --MASEM (t) 14:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2015

Add the meme "Mmm Whatcha Say" (like the Jason Derulo song) to the list of music memes.

108.50.230.136 (talk) 18:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

It actually originally came from an Imogen Heap song. Datbubblegumdoetalkcontribs 19:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
And to add, we have the actual meme, "Dear Sister", which is the SNL skit that used the song that became the meme, listed already. --MASEM (t) 20:04, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Shia Labeouf

I request that the Shia Labeouf "Just do it!" meme (src) and the "Actual Cannibal Shia Labeouf" song by Rob Cantor (original video) be included on this page. They've become quite popular. --104.235.102.206 (talk) 22:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure on the song, but the original video stuff is definitely sourcable as a meme. I have a BBC source to help even, and adding shortly. --MASEM (t) 22:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

The Internet and cats

Please swing by and help improve this new article! :D--Coin945 (talk) 03:30, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Archives

The archive box above needs fixing - it only shows up to November 2012. Does anyone know how to fix this? Oncenawhile (talk) 16:45, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm working on re-archiving. The system that is currently being used is terribly inefficient. I'll let you know when I finish with it. -- Tavix (talk) 22:49, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  Done. -- Tavix (talk) 19:32, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Navigation

This article is difficult to navigate because the sections are organised alphabetically, instead of by date.

I will be bold and reorder the first section.

Comments on whether this is a good idea would be appreciated.

Oncenawhile (talk) 16:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Because it's nearly impossible to necessarily track these phenomena by date, and I can see edit wars breaking out to claim a meme came out before another based on ancidotial evidence. Alphabetic is a neutral way to do this. --MASEM (t) 17:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
We shouldn't let possible edit wars dictate what is right for the reader. That problem can be dealt with multiple ways. One good example is Talk:List of events named massacres - see the big red criteria box at the top? That could be used here, not just to specify the criteria for inclusion, but also to specific the criteria for dating (the criteria I would favour would be using the date it was first picked up by a major news outlet)
Do you not think that the average reader would benefit from having this list in date order? Particularly for those readers who come here to see to check for new notable memes.
Oncenawhile (talk) 19:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
I can see the value in it being sorted by date and I'm not sure the claim that it would lead to edit wars is valid. As long as the year is sourced, I don't really see the problem. Are there any entries where the year is ambiguous or hard to track down? -- Tavix (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
The other thing is - what does dates matter here? These aren't events where the dates when they occur matter. These are collective knowledge of the internet. And "date it was picked up by a major news outlet" again is vague and would lead to edit warring on what a major news outlet is, as well as the fact that some news outlets don't pick up on these until months/years later. --MASEM (t) 20:04, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Others should comment on whether dates matter, but I think it matters because (a) some memes influence others (e.g. this apparently includes references to other memes), (b) and the evolution of notable memes is of reader interest, evidenced by the existence of e.g. the Webby meme of the year (which may be worth mentioning in this article (e.g. 2012, 2013, 2014))
As to the date, i'll start another thread below. Oncenawhile (talk) 20:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

The first section of this version is an example of what is being proposed. Oncenawhile (talk) 20:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

RFC: How to define the date of a meme

Per Masem's comments above, dating of a meme can be unclear and subject to disagreement. I propose that just the year is shown (to avoid spurious accuracy), and that the years used in this article should be:

The two criteria (third party and WP:RS) are both easy to establish (with WP:RSN being used if there is a dispute on the latter). Oncenawhile (talk) 20:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Comment. I don't think this is a good idea. It will likely depend on original research. People will cite news articles and guess which ones are the first report. This is pure speculation, and it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
    • This is my primary concern - its going to be a game of favorites if we have to sort on date. Alphabetic avoids any major OR issues. --MASEM (t) 04:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. Thinking about this more, perhaps the one date that is factual is the date that a third party source states that the meme was first published. If a meme is truly notable, surely a press article would have mentioned such a date. Oncenawhile (talk) 11:53, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Burger King Burger Causes Green Poop

"Green Poop" - Burger King's Halloween Burger(Whopper) causes Green poop. Not just dark green, but a bright leprecon green! A few people think the A-1 sauce is the cause to green poop, but another possibility is the food coloring that is used to create the black bun effect. A variety of food coloring is used and among them is Blue num. 1 aka "brilliant blue." The thing about this blue is the intestines cannot absorb this and as a result comes out as green poop. Blue num. 1, when combined with yellow dye can create a green dye. In this case the unabsorbed blue dye was combined with bile and as a result green poop[1 1]Burger King's has reported that all their ingredients are FDA approved and that there is less than 1% of dye used in their food.[1] Rhet295 (talk) 17:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Black Whoppers Are Causing Green Poop". The Huffington Post. Retrieved 2015-10-08.
  • I'm not seeing this as an Internet phenomena - an interesting "old wife's tale" of a type but nothing like a meme or viral spread. --MASEM (t) 17:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Netflix and Chill's Meaning

Neflix and chill now means something different. It's now a popular slang term used for hooking up and has multiple memes associated with it.[1 2][1]Rhet295 (talk) 23:28, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

This seems more apt as a slang term than anything as an "internet phenomena". Yes, it road the Internet but I don't see it comparable to what else we have. --MASEM (t) 00:00, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

References

Three Grandmas Smoke Pot

Three adorable grandmother's smoke marijuana for the first time, got high, and millions of people watched their hilarious reactions. The video was filmed by the production company, Cut, in the state of Washington where recreational use of marijuana is legal.[1] Rhet295 (talk) 22:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

References

I think this is something worth adding, there's over a dozen articles on this video.That shows just how popular it was. [1].[2][3]RTung (talk) 06:34, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Watch: 3 grandmas smoke pot for first time". USA TODAY. Retrieved 2015-11-04.
  2. ^ "Watch Three Adorable Grandmas Get High For The First Time". BuzzFeed. Retrieved 2015-11-04.
  3. ^ Tousignant, Lauren (2014-11-20). "Watch these 3 grandmas smoke weed for the first time". New York Post. Retrieved 2015-11-04.

"Linda Listen" video, 3 year-old asking mom for cupcakes

Viral video of 3 year-old boy pleading his mom to listen and let him have cupcakes. [1][2]

References

  1. ^ "VIDEO: How Ellen moved 'Listen Linda' cupcake kid's mom to tears". WTVR.com. Retrieved 2015-11-02.
  2. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP8RB7UZHKI, retrieved 2015-11-02 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

This video went viral and was talked about for so long, and it will be a good addition to the page under the videos section. Ashleenr (talk) 18:14, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

This video made this young boy famous. The video on its own had millions of views to the point where the kid was on multiple talkshows. It would be a great example of an internet phenomena. Laorduno (talk) 18:16, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge

This challenge went viral with the hashtag #KylieJennerChallenge and received controversial attention due to its harming side effects. In this article, it is even being compared to the ice bucket challenge. [1]Rhet295 (talk) 23:33, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Moyer, Justin. "Kylie Jenner Lip Challenge: The dangers of 'plumping that pout'". The Washington Post. Retrieved 22 October 2015.

I would like to make an add to this section where we show the juxtaposition of Kylie's lip plumpness. Also to add on, I think we should show the results of the challenge, while some had temporary plumpness others had bruised and damaged lips Rhet295 (talk) 21:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

For this being primarily a list article, we need images that are licensed freely to include that, which none of these are, and it should be trivial for someone to recreate a free image themselves. --MASEM (t) 21:41, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Great job with describing the juxtaposition of the contrasting pictures of her lips before and after pictures. Also, since it is very hard getting a picture because of licensing and copyright issues it is great that you linked out to another source Ashleenr (talk) 17:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Drake's "Hotline Bling" video - exploding the internet

Drake's "Hotline Bling" video: the video itself caused multiple memes, videos and variations of hilarious creations within 24hrs of its release.[1]Rhet295 (talk) 04:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Seems completely reasonable to include, will do. --MASEM (t) 16:43, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "The best 'Hotline Bling' Drake memes, from A to Z". USA TODAY. Retrieved 2015-10-21.

I agree with Masem, this is a relevant internet phenomena to add to the page. Ashleenr (talk) 17:47, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Little Girl's Heartfelt Conversation to her Divorced Parents

Viral video with almost 7 million views of 6 year girl persuading her divorced parents not to fight and to be friends with each other. The little girl, Tiana acts as the grown up and gives a really heartfelt lecture. [1]Rhet295 (talk) 18:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

One of the difficulties with viral videos is if the video doesn't have long-term (read: a week out) notability, it's just similar to feel-good or click-bait type stories. For videos or music, besides having the secondary sources to show that, we should also have a blue-linked article as well that goes into more details. Otherwise, it is very easy to flood this page with viral videos that get mentioned but not fully detailed in major news sources. --MASEM (t) 23:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

References

Three-Year-Old Beyonce Dancer Is Heaven!

Three-year-old Heaven is an amazing dancer, Ellen Degeneres invites her to the show and surprises her. Heaven copied her mother, Tianne King during dance rehearsals and became a popular YouTube star with over 64 million views. [1][2]Rhet295 (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I will say again that I think for videos we need more than just "hey, watch this", we need good articles on it and a blue-linked article we can link to on en.wiki. --MASEM (t) 23:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlpPsQaH2GQ, retrieved 2015-11-02 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  2. ^ "Tianne and Heaven Perform to Beyoncé". EllenTV. Retrieved 2015-11-02.

Kim Kardashian's iconic photo for Paper Magazine #BreakTheInternet

Kim breaks the internet with her cover photos for paper magazine. [1] There have been multiple recreations of her photo as well as memes. In one of the photo she recreates Jean-Paul Goude's naked 'Champagne Incident" photo[2]Rhet295 (talk) 20:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Hershkovits, David. "How Kim Kardashian broke the internet with her butt". the Guardian. Retrieved 2015-11-02.
  2. ^ "Kim Kardashian recreates iconic Jean-Paul Goude naked 'Champagne". The Independent. Retrieved 2015-11-02.

I agree with this, this was quite popular when it came out.  There's even several lists of top Kim Kardashian butt memes.  A few of them include Kim as a Centaur, Homer Simpson and Krispy Kim.[1][2]RTung (talk) 04:42, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "17 Memes Of Kim's Butt That May Actually Break The Internet". BuzzFeed. Retrieved 2015-11-03.
  2. ^ "10 Best Kim Kardashian Memes". Highsnobiety. Retrieved 2015-11-03.

I think this would be a great addition to the page. The hashtag in itself is enough to prove it as an internet phenomena. It remains a relevant phenomena, since some celebrities mocked the famous shot for their halloween costume. [1] Gmferr (talk) 22:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

This particular meme/hashtag aspect I would agree, but before adding , keeping in mind BLP issues, are there other internet phenomena related to Kim Kardashian that could be grouped with this? I have a poor memory but something nags me that she's been part of a meme before this. --MASEM (t) 23:20, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment Masem, I'm sure there's many other internet phenomenas related to Kim Kardashian because of her popularity, but this was one that was highly publicized. If the meme is the problem, I'd be willing just to add the particular hashtag (#breaktheinternet) but for future reference when I'd like to add a meme, what would be a good example (using this reference)? Rhet295 (talk) 18:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I think this would be good to add to the page, because this was a huge deal when the magazine picture came out and it was a phenomena, it is still talked about today. Ashleenr (talk) 18:08, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

This would be a great addition, the hashtag on it's own says it all - it did break the internet. The famous memes about this image would be worth adding since so many people replicated the image, including celebrities. Laorduno (talk) 18:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I'll go ahead and add the #breaktheinternet part at least. That's readily sourcable. --MASEM (t) 23:49, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Adele's "Hello" Song

Adele's Hello song has vastly popular worldwide[1] and has over 300 million views on YouTube.[2] There are multiple vines,mashups and parodies of the song Hello, with Adele having a conversation with someone else.[3] [4] Adele's song is different than what we're used to when regarding pop songs.[5] Hello has been compared to Drake's Hotline Bling with them both representing a phone call.[6]Rhet295 (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "The stats for Adele's comeback single Hello are already pretty nuts - Music Business Worldwide". Music Business Worldwide. Retrieved 2015-11-12.
  2. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQHsXMglC9A, retrieved 2015-11-12 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  3. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mKbnwZl1Ks, retrieved 2015-11-12 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  4. ^ "Bustle". www.bustle.com. https://plus.google.com/+bustledotcom. Retrieved 2015-11-12. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
  5. ^ "Adele's "Hello" Is a Smash Hit. But Why?". Houston Press. Retrieved 2015-11-12.
  6. ^ Donahue, Anne T. "Hello, it's me: Adele, Drake and why pop will always love a phone call". the Guardian. Retrieved 2015-11-12.
I can find sources to affirm this, will add. --MASEM (t) 00:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Bean Boozled Challenge

This Jelly Bean Challenge is an online dare in which the participants try the jelly beans from “Bertie Bott’s Every Flavor Beans” or also known as “BeanBoozled” box. The participants share YouTube footage showing their reactions to these flavors. The jelly beans look the same but will have two flavors, a good flavor or bad one. For example, the green jelly beans are either juicy pear or booger.Rhet295 (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

[1][2]

References

  1. ^ "Jelly Bean Challenge / BeanBoozled". Know Your Meme. Retrieved 2015-11-02.
  2. ^ Pansino, Rosanna (August 9, 2014). "Bean Boozled Challenge". YouTube. YouTube. Retrieved November 1, 2015.
We can't use KYM for referencing here, as its user-generated. We need a stronger source. --MASEM (t) 23:41, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Besides the countless challenge videos, I think that the Bean Bozzle Challenge is something that is popular because of several reasons. One is that there are hashtags relating to the challenge for example #beanbozzled on twitter.[1] Bean Bozzle is a famous game that is "circulated online" and also because of it's popularity, the game is usually sold out.[2] The producers of the Bean Bozzle Challenge had to make the game more readily available due to the high demand.[3] Also, the Challenge is referred as a "huge game this year."[4] RTung (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "#beanbozzled hashtag on Twitter". twitter.com. Retrieved 2015-11-13.
  2. ^ "Bean Boozled Challenge: The Bees and friends". The Bees' Picks. Retrieved 2015-11-13.
  3. ^ "Jelly Belly BeanBoozled Line Adds Peg Bag, Available In Vending". VendingMarketWatch. Retrieved 2015-11-13.
  4. ^ "'Royall Motivator' enjoys being a kid at heart". Moultrie News. Retrieved 2015-11-13.
We need much stronger sourcing; we can't rely on solely viewer counts or hash tag uses ourselves and a product being popular does not equate it to being a internet phenomena. --MASEM (t) 19:30, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

May I ask what counts as a stronger sourcing? A source from a news company or are we looking for a specific something? I'm a little unclear in what could be used as a strong enough source for this. I may be wrong, but it seems like the only problem with this is that we need stronger sourcing and that this could count as an internet phenomena. RTung (talk) 02:50, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

We ideally want a national or international newspaper or current events magazine like the New York Times, the BBC, the Los Angeles Times, etc. A statement from the copyright is a primary source and not sufficient to demonstrate something being a phenomena since that can be taken as self-promotional. --MASEM (t) 02:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Silento- Watch Me (Whip/ Nae Nae) #WatchMeDanceOn

This video got over 103 million views on YouTube. Heaven King and her dance crew perform choreography to Silentos "Watch Me" in NYC. Directed And choreographed by Tianne king.[1]Rhet295 (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Again, just being a popular video isn't enough for inclusion, we need stronger sourcing and preferrably an article. --MASEM (t) 23:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBWrpVrazzA, retrieved 2015-11-02 {{citation}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

This article might help as a source.[1].RTung (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Silento's 'Watch Me Whip, Watch Me Nae Nae,' Video Goes Viral (VIDEO)". Headlines & Global News. 2015-07-05. Retrieved 2015-11-13.

I'm having trouble seeing the difference between some of the suggested topics (like this topic) and the one's already added to the Wikipedia page. For instance, under "Videos" there's one called Charlie Bit My Finger that got a number of views and was still added. What is the different between that and something that gets over 64 million views like Three-Year-Old Beyonce Dancer Is Heaven!? I understand that it's difficult because viral videos often don't have long-term notability and it can be challenging to find blue-linked articles as secondary sources. But, how are they being evaluated because it seems to be defeating the purpose/definition of this page, "This is a partial list of social and cultural phenomena specific to the Internet, such as popular themes, catchphrases, images, viral videos, and jokes. When such fads and sensations occur online, they tend to grow rapidly and become more widespread because the instant communication facilitates word of mouth." Rhet295 (talk) 08:25, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

A popular video is not the same as a viral one. It has to do with its growth and spread, hence why pure popularity doesn't cut it. --MASEM (t) 10:15, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

There are many examples of the growth and spread of the Whip and Nae Nae dance. This Time magazine article shows elementary school students partaking in the viral dance moves. [1] Celebrities are in involved, too. Jimmy Fallon did the Whip and Nae Nae dance in his extremely popular Lip Sync' Battles. I think these links, and many more, show that this dance went viral this summer. [2] Rhet295 (talk) 03:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Neither of those articles identify the video as an internet phenomena. It's a popular song and dance but that's not the same as being a phenomena that required the Internet to spread and propagate as a meme. --MASEM (t) 04:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Flight gone missing

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went missing. There was a multinational search effort. It's been the record-breaking, longest missing flight.[1]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhet295 (talkcontribs)

Not really an Internet phenomena. It's world-news breaking but that really wasn't due to the Internet. --MASEM (t) 23:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Malaysia Airlines Flight 370". {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

I can see how this would not be considered an Internet Phenomena Ashleenr (talk) 16:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2015

I'd would like to expand this article (as mentioned above).

These are the followings:

  1. 1.This is SPARTA [1]
  2. 2.Rules of the Internet (Internet Meme) [2]
  • Rule 34
  • Rule 63
  1. 3.Smoke Weed Everyday [3]

Explanations:

  1. Madness? THIS.IS.SPARTA!
  2. Effectively, this is used in 4chan.
  3. An old meme dating back to 1999, it was originally a song writen by Snoop Dawg w/ Dr. Dre.

References

  1. ^ "This is Sparta". Retrieved 22 June 2010.
  2. ^ "Rules of the Internet". Retrieved 10 December 2006.
  3. ^ "Smoke Weed Everyday". Retrieved 4 July 2001.

Ernest Wong 12 (talk) 19:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: This is only for phenomena that have a Wikipedia article themselves. Stickee (talk) 01:52, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Update for Doge

This scholarly article may be a stronger source to explain the grammar of Doge.

http://the-toast.net/2014/02/06/linguist-explains-grammar-doge-wow/ Rhet295 (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

The Toast is not a "scholarly" source, it is a clickbait website. That article is hardly written in any scholarly fashion, consider reading Nature, Foreign Policy or The American Journal of Orthopedics. --benlisquareTCE 05:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

References that have deadlinks

Here is a list of all the references that have deadlinks and here are updated links. The numbers refer to the list of references. Rhet295 (talk) 18:11, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

32. "HomestarRunner Hits a Homer" – only source

Possible source

43. salad fingers stream of consciousness –only source

Possible Source

50. social media challenge approaching social moral concern

updated Possible Source

56. Dr. Food science “mixes bananas and Sprite, conducts questionable food experiment

updated Possible Source

58. “Milking the situation: To support Florida batboy, I try other food challenges”

Possible source

88. The lighthouse joke

source

94. The Blair Witch project -only source

Possible source

111. Take this lollipop spooks Facebook users

Possible source

113. When Gamer humor attacks –only source

Possible Source

116. I love bees – only source

Possible source

146. Scene- stealing squirrel crashes Banff tourist photo

Possible Source

169. Cat-tales- takes you to search.com / only source

Possible source

175. "With all its political bluster, Anonymous can't shake its 'prankster' past".

Possible Source

227.  "Toby Keith's "Red Solo Cup" passes 4 million online views".

Possible source

231. MJ's choreographer trains dancing prison inmates".

Possible Source

Possible Source

241. "Anime Escapes the Underground".

Updated source link

247.  "Benny Lava – the Western reincarnation of Prabhu Deva". – only source

Same source/website, but old link expired. Here is the new one

257. Mentos + soda + video + blog = Cha-ching!".

New source

258. Don't Tase Me, Bro!" Jolts the Web".  – only source

Possible Source

Same source/website, but old link expired. New one

260.  "How the 'double rainbow' video blew up"

Possible Source

290. "Hurdler's hot warmup dance wins her heat".

Updated source link

293. "Nek Minnit". Video no longer works

Possible Source

Possible Source

Possible Source: Video

308.  "a young girl who said webpages are very erotic very violent got ??"

Possible Source

317.  "Samwell asks the eternal question: "You want to do it in my butt?"" – only source

Same source, but expired link. New one

331. Misery Loves (Cyber) Company". – only source

Possible source

Possible Source    

336.  "Welcome to the Ethics Committee",

Possible Source

339. "Vuvuzela chorus may peak online Sunday".

Possible Source


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Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2015

Please add Darude Sandstorm to the list of music. When people ask what song was used in a video, people will direct the person to the song Sandstorm by the producer Darude. [1]

99.121.249.242 (talk) 00:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

  Not done: Being a popular song isn't the same as an internet phenomena. It's not a meme. -- ferret (talk) 19:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
It is certainly a meme. (Per our Wikipedia definition a meme is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture". This time it is a behavior to reply in a certain way when asked what the title of a song is.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Can you find any reliable sources (follow the link to see what reliable sources by Wikipedia standards are) talking about the meme? I would gladly add it, but I don't have any reliable sources I can use. --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
This list will never be complete because the bulk of memes that are out there are not well documented outside of sites like Know Your Meme and such. Nor do we expect this list ever be complete because of that lack of documentation. So while this certainly may be a meme, if there are no sources we can't add it. --MASEM (t) 00:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Illegal Flower Tribute

Illegal Flower Tribute still redirects to this article and is still an "internet phenomena" in the Chinese Web. Why was it removed and by what process?

172.56.41.46 (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

You can look at the history of Illegal flower tribute (follow the link under the title after you are redirected), and you can see that the state of the article before the merge [1] had all of two sources, and only one being about the meme specifically. That fails our notability guidelines. --MASEM (t) 15:24, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Ocean Man

The Ocean Man meme should be listed under the music section as the first popularized meme of 2016. Khalil Kittredge (talk) 02:54, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

I see no sources confirming this as a meme. --MASEM (t) 03:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
That is because it is a very new meme, and because of that it is quite difficult to find sources. I would argue that it should be added, but not until proper sourcing can be done; my fear is that it will be forgotten before such sourcing can take place. Khalil Kittredge (talk) 08:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
If no sourcing can be found, then that indicates its not a meme to include on this list. Not every meme that does appear on the Internet will appear here, only those that get covered in mainstream sources. --MASEM (t) 05:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Nyan Cat is not Youtube

Hello, dear Wikipedians, I'd like to point out that Nyan Cat did not originate on Youtube but on the handy domain nyan.cat I'm not a native speaker and I can't really word it nicely but I'd be glad if someone fixed that detail.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.12.14.102 (talk) 16:32, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

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Rap King under Music - no evidence

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John Cena Meme

John Cena meme seems to have been around a while and exploded late last year all over the internet. I think it could be a suitable submission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.225.176.160 (talk) 14:45, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

While it is a meme, we need a source to show that's the case, and I have not seen one for it. --MASEM (t) 14:57, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
These sources seem adequate:
http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/his-name-is-john-cena-meme/
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/1002/602249/wwe-hops-on-john-cena-meme/
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/13/john-cena-american-grit-interview
--MugaSofer (talk) 20:21, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
I'd be wary of Uproxx and the Wrestling one, but the Entertainment Weekly is good enough. Adding momentarily. --MASEM (t) 20:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Bold split off of viral videos

I have boldly split off the video sections to List of viral videos as it was becoming impossible to edit this whole page. I do want to add a separate section there for official music videos (not things like Numa Numa Dance), which may affect some of the "Music" videos on this list. I have redirected that page's talk page to here, so these articles can still stay in sync. --MASEM (t) 19:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I think the most notable ones should remain on the main page.--MugaSofer (talk) 20:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I agree with the split too. There are so many viral videos from Youtube and other sides. Yoshiman6464 (talk) 03:01, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Just keep in mind that there are a lot of "viral" videos that are brief notices by mainstream papers, and while they are viral, there's little detail of the origin of the video and as such should not be on this list. (All that are on this are fine so far). --MASEM (t) 03:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Illumanati

How come there is no Illumanati? I know that people rarely use it but still!Please add Illumanati. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.48.171.70 (talk) 22:13, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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In the politics part, it says that there've been made online games about the incident when Muntadhar al-Zaidi threw his shoes at George Bush. The correct term is "flash games", or "browser games", as an online game means a game that can be played with online multiplayer.

Jmbfod (talk) 15:28, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

  Done Updated wording. -- Dane2007 talk 21:48, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Go

Where are informations about Pokemon Go? There were a lot of mems with this popular game. Dawid2009 (talk) 14:34, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Fuck her right in the pussy viral video

"Fuck her right in the pussy" redirects to this page but this page doesn't have an entry for it. An entry should be added to to address confusion about what the "Fuck her right in the pussy" phenomenon is. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fuck_her_right_in_the_pussy&redirect=no

It was moved to the List of viral videos. I've fixed the redirect. --MASEM (t) 04:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Is the phrase notable enough for a stand-alone article? Feel free to examine/edit Draft:Fuck her right in the pussy to see if better sources are available since it was last deleted in November 2015. -- 1Wiki8........................... (talk) 22:59, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

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Defaultsort problem?

Why is this article under the letter "C" in the category "urban legend"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miuki (talkcontribs) 15:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Donald Trump's hair

@Masem: come on, your revert[2] is really inappropriate, especially with the argumentations:

  1. "potential BLP violation": then we have to delete all of Islamic Rage Boy, Qian Zhijun, Kylie Jenner, Bill Gates, Craig Shergold, Jeff Gordon, Downfall, Kevin Bacon, Leeroy Jenkins, Vancouver Riot Kiss, McKayla Maroney, Chuck Norris, Success Kid, and especially the whole politics section, too. You can't be serious on that.
  2. "less of an internet-driven phenomena": look at the sources, they're all on the internet.
  3. "the bulk of sources used are not appropriate (particularly youtube)": first you want something particularly "internet-driven" and then won't accept YouTube? Sorry, no offense intended, but that's purely ridiculous.

I certainly support re-wording and improvement, the sources are too many, so constructive-minded collaboration means to help picking the best and findig better, if you prefer. There's much more out there: Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL. --SI 23:16, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

The BLP issue is less a concern than the sourcing, but it is potentially a problem if the sourcing is not up to par. But the sourcing is the key. Just because you found sources on the Internet doesn't mean it is necessary an internet-driven phenomena. We want sources not that demonstrate the meme, but discuss the meme to some depth (in other words, youtube videos showcasing the meme are not appropriate). I do think there may be a way to include it looking at some more recent sources. But the other factor is that his hair has long been a running joke since as far back as The Apprentice if not earlier, and it didn't need the Internet then to propagate it - it was par for the course in celebrity/comedian circles to make fun of it then. (Even searching, I see pre-2000 hits for it). That it become more a meme when he announced his potential run for candidacy really is just regurgitating what's happened in the past. --MASEM (t) 00:37, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Should this be added?

A recent video of a 7 year old girl impersonating Taylor Swift has gone viral. Should it be added here? Sources:

King Cobra (talk) 11:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Snowball fight online game

AFAIR, formellyonce phenomena there was popular in Internet. It was specific game. http://www.4degreez.com/snow/ - something like it but most probably it isn't link to original game. I am think about antropology of this Internet party game. Dawid2009 (talk) 14:56, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

https://onsizzle.com/i/youve-just-been-hit-with-a-huge-snowball-now-its-4615247 - maybe something you said Dawid2009 (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

New section proposed - Catchphrases

I have brought up the idea of adding a section regarding Catchphrases and meme-like sayings, and whether or not they would be appropriate on this article. Please refer to the conversation here, link. I'm also interested in the interplay of how the meaning of a phrase can change depending on the context, and what cultural references are most popularly associated with it. Examples would include something like:

  • A poem being quoted in a time of war by a powerful leader, changing the context from one of poetic intellectualism to more of a patriotic idealism
  • A phrase previously used as a rallying cry morphing into an embarrassing turn of phrase, due to a change in slang, or association with comical caricatures in the mainstream.

A real world example of this might include something like Borat changing the association of Kazakhstan from one of post-Soviet poverty, to what amounts to the butt of a joke.

If you have constructive input or if you happen to know of an article that already better fits this niche, please respond. Like I stated in the original discussion, I'm planning on waiting several days before adding anything major. I suspect that something like this already exists, I'm just not imaginative enough to think of what it might be called. In the event that it doesn't already exist, I suspect that a lot of examples could be made available very quickly, which would necessitate the need for a clear-cut definition of what would, and what would not, be applicable to that section. Input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sawta (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Sanic

Does it deserve a mention here? This Sonic meme appears quite lot in the Sonic social media accounts. 98.180.222.65 (talk) 01:34, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Maybe not "sanic", but I can source the official Sonic twitter as an internet phenomena. --MASEM (t) 01:46, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

April (giraffe)

Surely April (giraffe) meets notability requirements (see article for sources). Not sure, however, what category this would fit in. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:AC43:3B49:CF5E:E4EF (talk) 18:54, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten

The following is a closed discussion of a requested merge. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the merge request was: no concensus. (non-admin closure) --Frmorrison (talk) 18:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC)


Per a lot of other meme articles. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I honestly don't thing a single unknown meme warrants having its own article. If anything we should delete the article entirely and complete this merge. UN$¢_Łuke_1Ø21Repørts 16:24, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
I think the caption is so memorable it does deserve a stand-alone article rather than a paragraph in List of Internet phenomena werldwayd (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
@UNSC Luke 1021:, I would argue that this meme is fairly well known. I've seen it reposted many times throughout the years. I can attempt to find sources, if you do not believe me. I should note that I have very little experience citing sources and would need to brush up on WP on sourcing, but I can make the attempt if you wish.
@Werldwayd:, An alternative to keeping it as a separate article, but still giving it "room to breath" might be adding a section devoted to "Catchphrase memes". It doesn't have to be a catch-all dumping ground for terms and phrases that don't fit in other categories either; I think a catchphrases section would have significant room to grow, and very well might end up requiring its own page after some time, depending on the specifics I outline below:
Think something similar to the act of people repeatedly quoting memorable lines from Movies or Television shows, which eventually make there way onto the Internet, and are then adopted and often remodeled in similar but unique ways. E.g. "I Love Lamp." being transformed into "I love (blank)", "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong." being transformed into "Am I (blank)? No, it's the (blank) who are wrong." "Join the Military, they said. It'll be FUN, they said!" being transformed into "(Blank) the (blank), they said. (Blank) will (BLANK), they said!" etc. The quote itself can move beyond the realm of the original context, maintain cultural relevance or meaning, and be able to stand on its own without it's users needing to know the original context in order to understand what's being communicated. A pre-Net Culture equivalent of this might be: "Here's Johnny!" is a phrase that people typically associate with the quote from the movie The Shinning, which in turn was a quote from the TV Show, The Johnny Carson Show. The original meaning would imply a welcoming feeling, but the new meaning takes on a menacing feeling, which in turn is then made outlandish or sarcastically by the person uttering the phrase.
I don't know if the "God Kills a Kitten..." phrase would be a good example of what kind of dynamics I have in mind, but I do think that this phrase is appropriate for this article, and should be acknowledged by Wikipedia. I recall seeing this meme in usage since at least 2004-ish, if not earlier.
If anyone can think of another article that already covers this kind of information I've highlighted, but in better detail/more appropriately (preferably with a Net Culture aspect to it), please let me know. I'll wait a few days, prior to adding a section to allow for response, discussion, etc. Thanks. Sawta (talk) 21:34, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I've never heard of this meme, so I'm not sure. UNSC Luke 1021 (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I agree with UNSC Luke 1021 that I don't thing this meme warrants having its own article. I would support it being merged. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 03:08, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure where my head was at the time of my first response. I have to agree with Kind Tennis Fan and UNSC Luke 1021; I don't think that this particular meme is well known, or complex enough to require its own article, however, I do I think that it does deserve some sort of mention on Wikipedia and should have a place within this article. Whether that be through some kind of a phrase section, or perhaps on the Images section(?), it should still have a spot both because of its impact on Net Culture and historical relevance and influence on modern memes.Sawta (talk) 15:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
Even if you personally hadn't heard of the meme, the citations in the article range from 2003 to 2008. This doesn't include the 2009 article that merely mentions the Wikipedia page. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 01:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

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Added 'Try to not laught challenge'

This is popular Internet phenomen which is popular everytime. Dawid2009 (talk) 11:42, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

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