Talk:Leuckart reaction

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 2601:602:CB00:94A0:6176:FAA0:3706:78B5 in topic Mechanisms

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Mechanisms

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The mechanisms for these reactions are incorrect. Specifically, the formate anion should be acting as a hydride donor. --TatanyaGolding (talk) 13:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it looks like the graphics are not only too extensive but perhaps wrong. Also, my understanding is that the main application of this reaction does not rely on ammonium formate but alkyl amines. It is a way of methylating amines using formaldehyde. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

I second that. The person who wrote the article is referencing a publication from 1951. Its fairly accurate to say that a student or professor in 1951, whose education in chemistry would have been in the immediate aftermath of WW2 or even before, probably did not have a good understanding of a real, rational, mechanism. Not even undergraduate textbook "conceptual" or "idealized" mechanisms (The types that might be "correct" but obviously leave out most of the real, granular, detail like solvent interactions and whatnot)2601:602:CB00:94A0:6176:FAA0:3706:78B5 (talk) 17:53, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply