Talk:KUCB-FM (Iowa)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Yoninah in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 21:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)Reply


Criteria edit

1. Well-written

Prose clear/concise/understanable - Use of a couple non-universal idioms that should probably be replaced with a more literal statement, see comments below.
Spelling/Grammar  Y - Good, the only issue is citations sometimes appearing before punctuation, see below.
MOS lead - Generally good, as it covers the main aspects. At four sentences, we could probably use a couple more sentences just to provide a little more detail.
MOS layout  Y
Buzzwords/fiction/lists  Y

2. Verifiable

No original research  Y None apparent
Inline citations from reliable sources  Y
List of references properly formatted - See statement about attributing Newspapers.com to some extent.
No COPYVIO  Y None detected

3. Broad in coverage

Covers main aspects  Y
Stays focused on topic  Y

4. Neutral  Y

5. Stable  Y - You're literally the only user who's edited this article, definitely stable.

6. Illustrated if possible

Media tagged for copyright status  Y - Image used has proper licensing
Media relevant  Y
This isn't a big issue, and I get if it's not possible, but is there a way that we could get one more image for this? Maybe a station logo or picture of a founder. This isn't essential, but it would be a nice little improvement.

Comments edit

Infobox A lot of the statements in the infobox are not sourced either in the infobox or in the main body of the text - ERP, HAAT, Class, Facility ID, coordinates, and the call sign meaning. These statements need verification and should either be cited in the main article text or in the infobox.

General formatting note Citations should be outside of the punctuation, including parenthesis. There are several instances of the citation between the period and the close parenthesis.

KUCB in the mid-80s Central Iowa Regional Association of Local Governments is a redlink. Is this organization likely to pass GNG? If so, you can leave the redlink in to encourage article creation, but I'd recommend removal if this organization is not likely to ever get an article.

Plunge into silence "Al Saladin [...] was shown the door." The phrase "shown the door" is not a universal idiom, and should probably be replaced with a more literal description of what happened (fired, asked to resign, etc. depending on the circumstance) because not all of our readers will be from regions where this idiom will be understood. This is not the only instance of the idiom.

The sentence beginning "In November, Jamal Akil (aka Jamal Long) ..." makes some specific claims, but does not have a citation. It's acceptable if the citation at the end of the next sentence is intended to cover both statements, but if not, a citation needs to be added.

Paragraph beginning "However, by May 1987, KUCB-FM had gone off the air ..." Same concerns as above, does the citation at the end of the paragraph cover the entire paragraph?

License renewal fight Statement that "as a convicted felon, he was now unfit to hold a broadcast license" needs a citation. That seems pretty common sense, but this should still be verified.

"In testimony that August, Abdul-Samad and Long claimed that KUCB-FM had been sabotaged throughout its time off air and after a falling out with Nevilles, who criticized the station within the Des Moines black community; however, their memories were not as clear as to when they learned of Knox's felon status and whether documents sent to the FCC about the station's ownership were accurate, and lawyers for the FCC argued that KUCB-FM had broadcast appeals for Knox's legal defense fund and had discussed his conviction on a station call-in show.[39]" - This sentence is about 80-90 words long, I'd recommend breaking it up into two or three sentences for readability purposes.

References - Newspapers.com should be listed to some extent in the citations. See Flag of Spokane, Washington as a recently-passed GA using Newspapers.com for clipping citations.

Okay, that's about it I think. There's some statements you're gonna need to add citations to, a couple idiom-related rewordings, and some moving around of punctuation, but not much beyond that. Overall, great job! Hog Farm (talk) 21:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Hog Farm: Thank you! CIRALG is definitely notable. It was the metropolitan planning organization for Des Moines but was shut down in 1983 after a federal investigation into financial mismanagement. We have some 30 articles on MPOs at Category:Metropolitan planning organizations, and it seems like this org's demise was rather high profile. That might be a future article from me? Iowa isn't exactly my specialty, but it certainly seems like they had a time of it.
  • I have added additional citation invocations to resolve issues in "Infobox" and "License renewal fight", and "via Newspapers.com" to all the cites from that site.
  • I also addressed the "convicted felon" by rewording it since I couldn't find a citation that was neat enough to cite on the topic.
Please let me know what you think. I should have resolved all pending issues. Raymie (tc) 00:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Good job! I'll pass the article now. Hog Farm (talk) 01:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:11, 13 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that at a meeting over zoning for a tower for KUCB-FM in Des Moines, Iowa, a radio station board member hurled a wastebasket at the chairman of the Des Moines zoning board? Source: [1]
    • ALT1: ... that the president of radio station KUCB-FM in Des Moines, Iowa, was found to have embezzled money from a federal grant to the station and diverted it to an automotive company in Chicago? Source: [2] and [3]

Improved to Good Article status by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 03:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC).Reply

  •   Article is a new GA, long enough, neutral, and well written. QPQ is done. No copyvio issues. I like the main hook, which is hilarious, but I can't confirm the claim that Saadiq was a board member from either the article or the source. Did I miss something? -Zanhe (talk) 04:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
  Thanks, good to go. -Zanhe (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)Reply