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![]() | A fact from Jennell Jaquays appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 December 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Please move notation of Jennell's birth name to the Summary Box
editIt's somewhat incorrect to have Jennell's birth name (deadname) listed in the very first sentence in the main text of her bio, when it is not the name she went by after her transition. I would like to suggest that, as with the entry of her wife Rebecca Heineman, notation of her birth name be move to the summary box next to her date of birth. This preserves the information on the page, but moves it to a more discrete and appropriate location. AtomicOvermind (talk) 03:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- The issue here is that it is the name she was known by when she did almost all of her notable work. (See MOS:GENDERID for the policy but TL;DR we want to be sure that someone coming to this page who is only familiar with her notable activities from before her transition knows they're in the right place.)
- In cases where an article subject did only a little bit of notable work before transition I'd be fine with moving their birth name to the infobox, but here I don't think that's really justifiable. Loki (talk) 00:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- In keeping with the above points made by Loki, recognizing that this person was very notable for pioneering work in the roleplaying game and early computer game fields created under their birth name, I reverted the edit by Oddfox that removed the birthname from the lede and referenced MOS:GENDERID. But my edit was in turn reverted and I was accused of deadnaming and hiding behind "transphobic policy". Suggestions? Guinness323 (talk) 17:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- If there is something wrong with the policy, then discussion about it should take place on the policy page. BOZ (talk) 22:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- In keeping with the above points made by Loki, recognizing that this person was very notable for pioneering work in the roleplaying game and early computer game fields created under their birth name, I reverted the edit by Oddfox that removed the birthname from the lede and referenced MOS:GENDERID. But my edit was in turn reverted and I was accused of deadnaming and hiding behind "transphobic policy". Suggestions? Guinness323 (talk) 17:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see why special treatment is warranted for listing of their name. In fact, this page is already more accommodating than other wikipedia pages, seeing as Charlie Sheen's page lists his original name first before anything else, unlike here. MutedL (talk) 16:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Adding the Campaign Sourcebook & Catacomb Guide to credits
editI can see that the article is edit-protected right now, but would someone with sufficient access consider adding this book to her credits under the "Judges Guild, later independent role-playing projects, and TSR" header? If I could edit, I would want to add something like "In 1990 her Campaign Sourcebook and Catacomb Guide [include link to its existing article] was published by TSR. It is widely regarded [add references to the two reviews quoted in the book's article] as one of the best advice books published on GMing tabletop RPGs." just before the current sentence "From 1993 to 1997, she returned to full-time employment in the table-top gaming industry as an illustrator for TSR, including a six-month period as Director of Graphics." Mannahnin (talk) 15:10, 2 April 2024 (UTC)