Talk:Jared Leto/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Conflicting Statements

In the opening paragraph, it is stated that Jared Leto is married. However, in the trivia section, it is said that he's currently single. Would anyone mind clearing this up? Thanks. --Earnestlylamour 03:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

74.105.157.188

placed { {blp1} } defamatory tag on anon user page re: 'male prostittue' edit - edit already reverted SteinAlive 12:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Band

Anyone gonna add anything about his band? They're singles have been on the air over here in ohio

I was at lollapollozaa in chiago [aug.6.06] and 30 seconds to mars were absolutley incredible. I cant stand how you people obsess over his looks. Yes I agree he is strongly attractive , but his music is more honorable. He dosent get true fans by his past acting career's. When I was at lollapollozaa he climbed the stage while singing a song. I'm not talking climbing a few marshalls , I'm talking the metal bars holding the stage. Then he threw out roses and Popsicles out to the crowd. He talked to the crowd and was EXSTREMLY friendly. He came off the satage and talked. His brother and the other band mates played a most incredible set. I just want to say if you EVER get a chance to go see them. DO IT !!!

[note:30 seconds to mars were so generous to the fans at the signing unlike the band , she wants revenge ]

I seen the band at Bamboozle, May 9th 06, and they to were incredible. and they also there to signed merch for their fans and stuff. And for anyone to dislike the band because Jared Leto is also an actor and because they feel that because of that he really didn't have to work to hard to get a record deal, is just obsurd because this band is so good and has amazing talent it would be a crime not to like 30 Seconds to Mars.--MyChemical 01:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Vanity Project?

I'm seeing what seems to be a conflict here: On the main page for his band, I quote the line, "Although Leto is a Hollywood actor, he originally preferred not to use this information to promote the band; in fact, the band used to refuse to play at venues that use his fame to promote shows." I don't see how one can label this a vanity project if that statement is, in fact, true, regardless of affinity for Mr. Leto or the band and their music.

Ipso-De-Facto 12:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. I must have had an old revision open, that comment seems to have been removed/reverted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ipso-De-Facto (talk • contribs) 12:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

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There is no mention anywhere of Leto's custom made Steve McSwain guitars, and there should be.

I was going to contribute this to the 30STM page, but I got told it should go here instead, but I feel it should be mentioned on both, because it is quite a big point to musicians interested in custom equipment, and Jared Leto / 30STM fans.

My original 'talk' was: "I've just been reading, and I think there should be a section to mention Jared's custom made guitars - the Steve McSwain models, which McSwain has called "Gryphon" (both the black and the white ones) yet Jared has named the white one "Pythagoras" after the Greek philosopher and mathematician, and I can't remember what he called the black one - but it will be something Greek.

The design was drawn by Jared and given to McSwain, who made the guitars from scratch, and the image of a Griffin / Gryphon has been carved into them, they use a single Seymour Duncan pickup at the bridge and only have a volume control."

Look let's just get over it and say that Jared Leto is one of the greatest acto/director/musician of all time and that his band thirty seconds to mars is just as great

Kudasai 12:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Continuing Reversion by Erishi

I've watched this for a few days now. Erishi posts unsubstaniated information. Calling Leto a "pathological liar" and other bits. People have been correcting it and they return and post it all again.

They need to stop. And note to Erishi, a tabloid is NOT a reliable source for correct information.

I have removed their revisions.

Sorry I didn't sign it the first time, edited my own post.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gingervlad (talk • contribs) 18:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC).:Gingervlad 18:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)gingervlad

I've reminded Enshi that posting unsubstantiated and potentially libelous comments about a living person is not acceptable. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 19:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Been watching and charting edits to this page as well. Unsourced info and biased info is problematic legally and ethically. Please stop adding unsubstantiated and unduly biased information to this page. See guidelines.

24.178.139.87 16:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm completely new to this, so sorry if I do it wrong. I think calling Leto a pathological liar could be a little too much, but as far as a reputation of fabricating stories - that could be included. For a source, I could link you to 15+ interviews where it is obvious he is making up stories. And a couple where he admits to it... what's the big deal. It's fun for the fans. Truthordie 05:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Editing Biography

Yesterday I added the Biography section for Leto. Other than the filmography, the article didn't mention anything about his film career and focused solely on his role as singer of the band 30 Seconds to Mars. I also trimmed that section because it mentioned irrelevant information about the band member changes, record sales, etc. that belong to the bands article. I'm also reluctant to keep the line about Leto breaking his nose in a concert. I don't see that's so relevant to the article. Thief12 15:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

dates wrong??

I noticed that under career someone put the year 1962 down as the year he moved to LA, that's odd considering he was born in 1971. Please could someone fix this? thanks69.95.37.70 20:03, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Needs a Picture

I quickly trolled Google, but couldn't find anything free... anyone help out? Personal pictures taken at concerts, whatnot... Kingoomieiii 06:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

How about this one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dtwirler/575548430/)? I took it at a concert in December 2006. DTwirler 14:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Not a vegetarian: Doesn't eat red meat!

Jared never stated he was a vegan or the like. He stated in a live interview he doesn't eat red meat. He seen and known to eat eggs and chocolate milk. And especially loves fries....cooked in vegetable oil of course!

Edit: I am correcting my previous statement. Jared never said publically he was vegetarian but that does not mean he is one or not. Vegetarians can eat meat (like eggs) just not red meat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.72.10 (talk) 01:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Um, you're not supposed to eat the eggs with meat in them. You're supposed to eat the eggs where the hens have been kept seperate from the roosters (if you don't know what effect this would have on the eggs, you're too young to use the internet, there's bad stuff out there). Your way would be disgusting (granted, the act of eating eggs in general is disgusting if you think about it. "Kids, it's that time of the month! We're having an egg for breakfast!" :works hard to suppress gag reflex: I prefer not to think about it.) VegJed 02:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Direct quote as being a veg. the_undertow ^talk 02:40, 16 November 2007 (UTC)eff

eggs taste better with a little raw meat

Leeeto?

What is the correct way to say his last name? Is it Leeeto, or as rhyming with ghetto, or with emphasis on the o? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.168.153.9 (talk) 01:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Wrong director alias and album date.

The video for A Beautiful Lie wasn't directed by Bartholomew Cubbins. Instead it was a different alias, Angakok Panipaq. Also, the album of the same name was released in 2005, not 2006.

86.10.75.40 (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

It says he came to hollywood to be an actor, he said in an interview came to be a musician someone should change that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.231.243.155 (talk) 02:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Artworks - Jared Leto Portal

Could you please add

http://jaredleto.bplaced.net/ -- Jared Leto Portal - Wallpapers and more

as an external link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.215.60.182 (talk) 11:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

French in Mr Nobody

The article says, under Other Notes for Mr Nobody, that Leto 'Speaks French in this role.' He doesn't speak French in the film, but said in an interview that he had to speak 'cinéma French' on set, in order to understand the Belgian director, for example when he would ask for silence, of for the actors to be on set.

He doesn't speak French. It is the most wicked of lies, sir, and could do with a forceful jab of editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MonsieurClopin (talk • contribs) 17:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Vegetarian

The sentence about Jared being a vegetarian does not belong in the section it is in. Or, the sentence should at least be reworded so that the subject of the sentence relates to the section it's in, while still parenthetically stating that Jared is a vegetarian. But most of the time, this should be under "Personal life" or something like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.62.254.122 (talk) 06:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Requiem for a Dream

The Harry Goldfarb character was not a heroin addict, as is stated in the Wiki page, he was a Methamphetamine addict. Please correct.

Mbrock307, 12-25-2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbrock307 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

you're wrong..in the wiki page of requiem.... it says numerous times that Harry injects himself with heroin...not meth. The one who was a meth adict was Harry's mom, even thought she didnt know it

Harry was a heroin addict, his mother was an amphetamine addict, not methamphetamine. Please watch the movie before editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.189.220 (talk) 07:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Leto means Summer

in russian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.22.166.8 (talk) 10:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Band Started?

Someone has stated Jared started the band with his brother in 1998, when in fact they were officially signed to a record label in 1998 and had been a band before then and playing music together since being young children. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.52.101 (talk) 12:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

May 28, 2007

I have removed the Trivia section - please see WP:BLP. Biographies of living people do not support trivia sections. Most of the information within the section was irrelevant to most of his biography. His weight gain for his films could be included as trivia within that film or in time, when a better perspective can be achieved on his work, what influence or importance it had on his body of work. --Ozgod 02:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

are you kidding?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.179.190.224 (talk) 20:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Personal Life

I do not see how a "hottest man" nomination is personal life. And that this is the only thing in that section. He's had many different relationships; e.g. Scarlett Johansson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.15.207.226 (talk) 15:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

♥♥♥♥♥♥i heart jared leto!♥♥♥♥♥♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.90.214.226 (talk) 03:23, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Drug addiction

Elton John mentioned something about a past drug addiction of Jared leto. He says he was addicted to Crack cocaine when he was 14, till 17 when he recover in a rehab. This was mentioned in a Spanish MTV interview to Jared.

(sorry for my bad english)--Realxsalo (talk) 21:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC) No need for this to be even mentioned until it is just a rumor: not officially confirmed statement of some person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Canis majoris 1 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Spanish descent

Someone has added that he is of Spanish descent through his grandfather. Leto's lineage is commonly disputed so for such a statement, especially one of such a minor impact (being 1/4 Spanish) allegedly should not be admitted without appropriate sourcing and referencing. 2.25.94.231 (talk) 21:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Smiley

Relationships

User:John has edited the article to remove sourced material and the relationships section is almost empty with his version. I have paid some attention to his contention, but on this article there isn't any gossip. Entertainment Weekly, msnbc.com and UGO Networks are all reliable non-gossip sources (NNDB and Yuddy also speak about these relationships). And these sources meet WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:BLPSOURCES. I will revert one more time and invite him to discuss this here.--Earthh (talk) 00:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

This article is a gigantic sinkhole of fannish enthusiasms, promotionally phrased commentary, and other sorts of unencyclopedic writing, of which the uncalled-for detailing of the subject's social life is one of the more prominently inappropriate parts. The material at issue here was riddled with speculation and carried no indications of significance in the context of the subject's overall life and career. NNDB is clearly no a reliable source, and the other sources mentioned often mix gossip into their coverage of celebrity's personal lives. If nothing at issue here is quite as dreadful as the deathless prose like "Sporting a mean set of cornrows" that I've just removed, it's still not suitable for an encyclopedic article. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I have restored some sourced material. Leto dated his Chapter 27 co-star Lohan and this is sourced. I don't see how this can be called unencyclopedic. Now there isn't any speculation and his relationships are part of his personal life (and again, they are sourced). Oh, and if you want, you can leave a comment for the peer review.--Earthh (talk) 15:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

• I agree with Hullaballoo. If anything, the article needs further trimming, not the restoration of the dreadful crap that was removed. --John (talk) 16:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, can someone explain why this version isn't good?--Earthh (talk) 18:52, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

The lead needs work as well. It's all hit, successful, critical acclaim, critical praise, prominence, teen idol, cult, hit, etc, etc. You'd think he was Jesus from reading that. Nymf _hideliho! 15:12, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Continuing removal of sourced content

There is encyclopedic material removed without reason, breaching WP:BLP.

• My So-Called Life: "Although the show didn't have a long run, it has developed a large cult following in the years since it was cancelled." sourced by AOL
• Panic Room: "The film grossed over $30 million in its opening weekend in the United States, Leto's biggest box office opening success of his career so far". is actually written better than "the best performance of a film Leto has appeared in to date."
• Alexander: "The film was marked by controversy for portraying the ancient conqueror as bisexual, and received criticism from some historians for its portrayal of the ancient Persians, though others praised it for its accuracy in these regards as well." sourced by RFE/RL
• Lonely Hearts: "Leto later starred in 2006's Lonely Hearts, the story of two America's most brutal murderers, Raymond Fernandez and Martha Beck." The film is based on the real story of this two people.
• Chapter 27: "While Leto did a committed job embodying the behaviour and speech patterns of Chapman, the film received mixed to negative reviews, and was generally considered a disappointment." sourced by EW
• Mr. Nobody: "Leto's role as Nemo Nobody required him to play the character as far aged as 118, even as he undergoes a soul searching as to whether his life turned out the way he wanted it to." This is the role played by Leto in the film.

"Critical response has praised the film's artistry and Leto's acting." sourced by Break Media

• The various Kerrang!'s "Sexiest Male" awards and other accolades are significant for the in the media section.
• Relationships: "In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Leto, one of People magazine's "50 Most Beautiful People", was involved in relationships with Kristi McDaniel, Cameron Diaz and Scarlett Johansson." sourced by EW

"Also reportedly involved with Ashley Olsen and Jessica Simpson, Leto began dating his Chapter 27 co-star Lindsay Lohan in 2005. After the film premiere, Leto was in the headlines for lashing out at a photographer at the 2007 Sundance Film Festival, after he had reportedly ended the relationship with the unstable actress, stating that he was uncomfortable with being the object of paparazzi." sourced by msnbc.com and UGO Entertainment.

The material is significant in the context of the subject's overall life and career. Every source used meet WP:SOURCES and I will re add this content if no explanation of its removal is given. Now some content makes no sense because parts of it was pruned.--Earthh (talk) 00:37, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, even if it's sourved. Last week, without discussion, you quintupled the length of this article, adding huge swathes of material that is questionable under our BLP and NPOV policies and which serves little in the way of encyclopedic purposes. The WMF resolution on biographies is quite on point here: Many people create articles that are overly promotional in tone: about themselves, people they admire, or those they are paid to represent. These are not neutral, and have no place in our projects. Generally, the Wikimedia community protects the projects well against this common problem by deleting or improving hagiographies.[1] And quite a bit of the material is questionably sourced at best. The Linday Lohan content is particularly problematic: phrasing like "unstable actress" is plainly inappropriate; the cited sources don't support important aspects of the claims they're cited for; and the cited sources are essentially gossip columns, regardless of who publishes them. When consensus is as clearly expressed against you as it was in the preceding section, it's a very bad idea to present the sort of ultimatum you've presented here. It is quite likely to lead to unpleasant editing experiences. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 02:53, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I think that removing sourced material needs a discussion before. I'm promoting no one. Every information I added is significant in the context of the subject's overall life and career, and meet WP:BLP. Removing all these information (from My So-Called Life to Leto's relationships) only because is phrasing "unstable actress" is unacceptable. After your cuts there are some sections (as In the media or Relationships) that are almost empty, and this doesn't improve anything.--Earthh (talk) 01:03, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

"2007–present: Recent roles and the future" what future?

everything in this section is in the past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.214.250.194 (talk) 16:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Marselon30, 5 September 2011

On september 5th 2011, the Echelon trended the words: "Jared Leto is the BOSS" which later that day become a World Wide Twitter Trend. [2] Marselon30 (talk) 21:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Trivial pop culture reference without a reliable, independent source. —C.Fred (talk) 21:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Jared Leto

First, on the talk page there is no consensus to remove this sourced content (and I added other reliable sources). Second, you should read the talk page and the peer review. Third, I have added current projects whit sources in the section Recent roles and the future. The article is difficult to read; some content makes no sense because parts of it was pruned and some sections (as In the media or Relationships) are almost empty. I will revert one more time if no explanation of its removal is given.--Earthh (talk) 11:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Where do I start? Let's look at some of your wordings.

• "His fine acting in the addiction drama won praise and raves from film critics."
• "He also starved himself for months, losing 28 pounds to realistically play his heroin addict character."
• "the story of two America's most brutal murderers"
• "While Leto did a committed job embodying the behaviour and speech patterns of Chapman"
• "even as he undergoes a soul searching as to whether his life turned out the way he wanted it to."
• "Internationally viewed as a sex symbol,"

All inappropriate. And why the cruft in the relationships section was removed has already been covered at the talk page. Nymf _hideliho! 12:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Seriously? Every sentence is sourced. Removing reliable sources is vandalism. However I re added material that has nothing wrong.--Earthh (talk) 14:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Moved the above discussion here so everyone can comment on it. Nymf _hideliho! 16:29, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Possible advertisement

"30 Seconds to Mars also launched abeautifullie.org, which includes information about current environmental issues, ways to participate in environmental activities and more. In addition, people can make donations through the site to support the Natural Resources Defense Council."

I took this to be a blatant advertisement of the site. However, I want more opinions before anyone decides to remove it. Artume's Shroud (talk) 15:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC) This is wierd, considering that they never dated. I don't know where this came from,but I don't think the sources are reliable in the first place. Evie dee (talk) 20:07, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 December 2011

Jared Leto is currently engaged to Nicci Francis. The wedding will be February 29th, 2012. - From a reliable source.

Nfrancis94 (talk) 07:12, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 21:31, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

This is also wierd, considering that this person doesn't even exist. Evie dee (talk) 20:07, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Awards

What's up with the awards/nominations part of his filmography? There's no source anywhere for this, it's all made up! 86.61.106.194 (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

The awards and nominations are taken from IMDb. In the article there are various accolades with the respective sources. Moreover, in the films articles there are better sourced lists.--Earthh (talk) 18:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, no. None of these supposed nominations are listed on IMDb and among other things, BFCA didn't have nominees back in 1999 and the NBR doesn't have nominees and so on... This is pure fabrication. 86.61.39.154 (talk) 17:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Irish Catholic

Someone added that he's of Irish Catholic descent. Does anyone have a good source? I've just never seen anything similar mentioned anywhere. JackO'Lantern 07:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• Leto is a surname you can find in Calabria, Italy, so he can be catholic...
  • Grandmother Ruby attended Lutheran and took trips to Scotland with Jared's mom when she was young**

Okay, this article says that Leto was born in Louisiana and the UK. Obviously he can't be born in both places, so which one was it? And who cares if he's gay or not?

Leto is the name of his ADOPTED father, Fony Leto,...so who knows. He has stated that he is from Louisiana..don't know where the UK thing came from. Nor the Irish comment???

What's with the Neil James thing, too?

noo leto is his actual father's last name. him ands jareds mom split up. but leto is his real last name. i dont think he is irish. he wouldve said so. and he has said that he was christian somewhere... i dont remember where or when but he said it

tony is thename of his real father but i keep reading that his last name isnt really leto but its the name of his step father who adopted him. sad, it hink he never really got to know his real father:( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.194.132 (talk) 21:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

If his ancestry is from Calabria then he has Greek ancestry as from about 800 b.c. what is now Italy, was founded by the Greeks, especially the southern part of Italy like Calabria, Salento from Salentia, Naples/Napoli from Neapolis, Syracuse, etc. Italy was called Magna Graecia for many centuries.

As for Leto herself, according to Greek Mythology, Zeus loved this maiden,who was known as Leto of the Dark Robe. She bore him two children, the most radiant ever born. Hera flew into a furious jealous tantrum, worse than any she had ever displayed before, because it had been foretold that these twins would outshine all her own children. She had known this even before they were born and had cursed Leto's labors, forbidding her to give birth anywhere the sun had ever shone. Leto wandered the earth looking for a place where the sun had never shone but could find none. Finally, Zeus raised an island which had been floating undersea - the island of Delos. Zeus raised it to the surface and anchored it there. Since the sun had never shone on Delos, it could not be touched by Hera's curse and Leto was able to begin her labors. She bore Artemis (coincidentally the name of one of Jared Leto's guitars?) and Apollo, who became gods of the moon and the sun, greater by far than any of Hera's children.

Leto is accented on the "o" in ancient and modern Greek. A soft "o". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.131.14.128 (talk) 04:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone know if he can speak Greek at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.156.167 (talk) 00:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Why has his Greek-American link at the bottom of the page been removed?123.211.100.82 (talk) 04:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

From what I've been able to find, he isn't Italian (or Greek). It appears that his father was a WASP from Kentucky and his maternal grandparents were Cajun/part Cajun from the south. Leto is definitely a stepfather's surname. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:00, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Philanthropy Section

While it is true that Leto supports equal rights for homosexuals, it is likely not notable that he tweeted at Obama. I realize that the tweet is "cited", but I would advocate for its removal, as it is hardly a notable tweet, and does not significantly add to the content of the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegeniusboy05 (talk • contribs) 02:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation of last name

His page says it's pronounced /lɛtɒ/ (the o being pronounced like the o in "John"), but it's actually pronounced /lɛtoʊ/ (the o being pronounced like the o in "go"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.65.201.19 (talk) 03:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I've just fixed it. Thank you.--Earthh (talk) 09:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Stepfather

I'm not good with Wikipedia, and this article is locked, but I don't think we need to clarify that he's not biologically related to his stepfather... not a great way to start an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.56.17.184 (talk) 06:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

page tag about missing information

There is a tag on this page that says "This article is missing information about Leto's musical/acting style and influences." I've never seen such a tag, nor is this really key information if it has not been covered in RS. Is this tag really necessary? —Мандичка^YO 😜 10:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Moved to the assessment summary page.--Earthh (talk) 23:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Jared Leto/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

This article is missing information about Leto's musical/acting style and influences. (October 2014)

Last edited at 23:06, 10 May 2015 (UTC). Substituted at 20:35, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Lead sentence

WP:BLPLEAD states: "However, avoid overloading the lead sentence with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-notable roles (i.e. activities that are not integral to the person's notability) should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph." To be in the lead sentence, a role must be i) well sourced (nothing should be in wikipedia unless it can be sourced), ie. reliable sources calls the person such, ii) a large part of the article (lead summarizes the article, if it's not a large part of the article, it shouldn't be in the lead). iii) Integral to the notability of the person. e.g. the person is regularly referred to as such by RS. Refering to this revert to reinsert contested material, do NOT reinsert unless you can produce multiple RS that call Leto a "songwriter", a "director", a "producer", an "activist", and a "businessman".

See for example Maya Angelou, multiple reliable sources refer to her as an author, a poet, and a civil rights activist. And so she is called such in the lead sentence of her article. She is not, however, called author, poet, civil rights activist, feminist, autobiographer, actress, playwright, editor, educationalist, singer and dancer, although she had such roles at some point in her life. LK (talk) 15:42, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

I've been reverting your edits since this discussion was already settled a while ago. Also, take a look at GAs like David Bowie or Lady Gaga, which features a very similar situation. While I would omit some roles like activist and businessman, activities like singer-songwriter and director (and possibly producer) need to be mentioned since:

1. Multiple reliable sources calls the person such and he is regularly referred to as such (singer-songwriter [3][4][5], film director [6][7][8][9][10][11] and it's not difficult to find others, not to mention his award-winning work behind the camera);
2. The majority of the article deals with his acting, musical and directing career (the latter beginning with 2006–08: Lonely Hearts, Chapter 27, and filmmaking). The lead also mentions his directing works in both films and music videos.

In conclusion, I think the best solution would be calling him actor, singer-songwriter, and director.--Earthh (talk) 16:53, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Lead sentence of Lady Gaga lists three well cited occupations. The Bowie lead from the time of FA promotion lists only one.[12] The lead you reverted to lists non-notable roles, and is also inconsistent between the infobox and lead sentence. At the least, it should be consistent.

I concur that "actor, singer-songwriter, and director" is an apt description, please also edit infobox to keep consistent. Thanks, LK (talk) 07:56, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

I've gone through the articles listed above, and none of them call him a director, except a non-RS source[13] (it looks like a press kit release from Leto's agent). Still waiting for RS articles that state, "Jared Leto, director," or "the director, Jared Leto". Without multiple RS calling him such, it should not be in the lead, let alone the lead sentence. LK (talk) 11:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Both Entertainment Weekly and The Hollywood Reporter call Leto a director, I've just restored it in the lead.--Earthh (talk) 12:01, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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Was the Leto article whitewashed?

I seem to remember from a previous version of the article that there were made some allegations about "unsavory conduct" against Leto. And there's that whole thing about how he sent weird/creepy shit to his co-stars on Suicide Squad. I know Wikipedia isn't supposed to be a "gossip column". But on the other hand it isn't a marketing platform either, and the new edit does look a little "puffy" to me.

What do you guys think? Did someone turn the article into a puff piece or is it fair and balanced?

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Clunky sentence

This sentence feels a bit clunky over here. "In October 2009, he raised money to the campaign against California Proposition 8, created by opponents of same-sex marriage to overturn the California Supreme Court decision that had legalized same-sex marriage." I feel like it could be reworded differently to avoid the double negatives.Radnompieceofgarbage (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2017

Change "In August 2016, Leto was cast in a villainous role for Blade Runner 2049, sequel to the original film.[106] " to "In August 2016, Leto was cast in a villainous role for Blade Runner 2049, sequel to the original film, as Neander (Niander) Wallace.[106]" Phoebegrigor99 (talk) 00:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The character name is not in the source given. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:51, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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Better Early Life description

So I originally had this inserted:

"Jared Joseph Leto was born on December 26, 1971, in Bossier City, Louisiana, to Constance A. "Connie" Leto (née Metrejon), of Cajun ancestry, and to Anthony L. "Tony" Bryant. Shannon Leto, his older brother, was also born from this marriage. His parents divorced when he was a child, leading Leto's family to move frequently to different cities around the country, from Louisiana to Wyoming to Virginia. "My mom's father was in the Air Force," Leto has explained, "so moving around a lot was a normal way of life." Even so, Leto's family was poverty-stricken and found themselves occasionally living in a truck or off of food-stamps.

"Leto" is the surname of his stepfather, opthalmist Dr. Carl J. Leto M.D., who provided Leto's family with financial stability; however, his mother and stepfather ended up divorcing too. Despite this, Jared credits his mother and stepfather for catering his talents and encouraging creativity within his family. Leto's family adapted the surname as their own, even after the divorce. Since then, Leto has been estranged from his stepfather. Leto's maternal half-sister Jamie and maternal half-brother Mateo came from this marriage. While Leto's father Anthony Bryant remarried as well, he committed suicide shortly after. Leto was eight at the time of his father's death. Bryant left a son, Leto's paternal half-brother Matthias, from his second marriage. Leto's family then settled in Haiti for a brief period while his mother volunteered at a rescue facility. Finally moving back to the states, Leto's family moved into the home of his maternal grandparents, Ruby Mae (Russell) and William Lee "Willie" Metrejon."

But it was removed multiple times on account of apparently not being sourced well enough. Can anyone find a source that will appease the admins? Everything in the paragraphs are undeniably true, but the lack of "adequate sourcing" in certain peoples' opinions would beg to differ. Additionally, I think it's relevant and gives a better understanding of Leto's childhood, as limited information has been provided thus far.

P.S. You can still find the paragraphs surrounded by "</>" 's embedded in the biography when editing. It just doesn't appear to the public. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 02:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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"Method actor" info in lead

I recently removed information that described Leto as a method actor in the lead because it was shamelessly plagiarized word-for-word from the lead in Daniel Day-Lewis's article, but it was reverted. Such blatantly copied words shouldn't be there. Songwaters (talk) 00:16, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Although the two sentences are in fact similar, there's no point to remove that content from one or the other as long as every content is well sourced. You can reword it if you want, but refrain from removing sourced content without reaching a clear consensus among editors.--Earthh (talk) 19:49, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

They aren't "similar," their verbatim is identical. In my last edit, I didn't remove the sources, I just reworded to simply say that he's been labelled a method actor. Besides, Dallas Buyers Club is, to my knowledge, the only movie where Leto was known to never break character during filming, and it didn't go to the point of adversely affecting his health. Songwaters (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Songwaters, you're not rewording anything, you're removing content and its sources. This is your final warning, get a consensus before editing again. You can't base your contributions upon your knowledge; according to sources, there are multiple films in which Leto was known to never break character during filming.--Earthh (talk) 10:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Misleading section headers?

Curious to know why the reflist is seemingly placed under the "Notes" section while what I presume to be "Further reading" material is placed under the "References" section. This seems to be a jarring anomaly to the usual formatting of bios. ElizaOscar (talk) 05:11, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Assault Allegations and Abusive Behavior

There have been dozens (if not more) articles circulated about allegations from teenage girls and young women that Leto has sexually harassed or assaulted them for a few years now. While the original accusations do stem from various Tumblr and forum posts from the past decade, reputable media outlets have since picked up the story, especially since James Gunn and Dylan Sprouse have become involved, and these can be sourced with a few quick google searches. I will provide these sources myself if this topic is approved (I am new to submitting requests to protected pages).

Perhaps more widely circulated are the reports from the cast and crew of Suicide Squad that Leto engaged in various pranks that ranged from annoying to abusive, and a couple that were biohazards/health risks. These are more easily verified and have been covered by major outlets. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfinragdoll (talk • contribs) 22:24, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Not the correct Birthday.

He is actually 44 years old. Onemrluckyman (talk) 00:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Claimed behaviour during the filming of Suicide Squad (2016)

I made an edit a few days ago detailing Leto's claimed (by himself) and corroborated instances of harassment, some sexual in nature that took place during Suicide Squad (2016). In the interest of painting a full picture per WP:PUBLICFIGURE, I also included Leto's subsequent denial a year later with a direct quote. This was undone by another editor, but I feel that this is significant behaviour of encyclopaedic value that received a lot of coverage in reliable sources, including the Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/jared-leto-sent-anal-beads-and-used-condoms-to-his-suicide-squad-costars-a6982496.html, the Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/08/hollywood-has-ruined-method-acting/494777/, and the NZ Herald https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/jared-letos-disgusting-gifts-to-suicide-squad-castmates/HIULG5SIPZ3GRZ7NDBWCW7XZTA/.

As I feel confident that this adequately follows policy, is of significant encyclopaedic value, and due care has been taken to mention other cast members corroborating the story along with including Leto's subsequent denial of the claims he made, I am choosing to undo the undo on my edit and add this section to the talk page for objections to the inclusion of this obviously noteworthy, well-cited behaviour. Not including a mention of this behaviour in my view conflicts with WP:NPOV and amounts to whitewashing, as this note-worthy, verifiable behaviour is something that should be documented somewhere on his page. A lot of time has passed since 2016 and the only person to deny it happening is Leto himself. Yeah, that's fine. (talk) 12:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree with this edit, no idea why it keeps getting reverted. Maybe could make a "Controversies" section on the page, but at the very least it should be included in the suicide squad section. You can't just not mention a massive scandal on the page of a public figure... Thyrfa (talk) 19:08, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

@Earthh is there any reason you object to this content being included? It's not trivial in terms of sourcing or coverage and you're the editor who asked for a discussion on the talk page when you deleted it earlier. Given your lack of contribution to said discussion it's hard to tell why you're against this content being included. 108.174.175.69 (talk) 16:48, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2021

Just a suggestion that someone changes "committed suicide" to "died by suicide" in reference to Jared Leto's father's death 108.36.204.146 (talk) 20:06, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: This has been discussed many times in the Manual of style. § RFC: "Committed suicide" language says not to change this wording. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 23:50, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2022

Morbius has been delayed to April 1, 2022 based on multiple articles such as https://www.ign.com/articles/morbius-delayed-to-april-2022 LilBigJP (talk) 00:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Hemantha (talk) 06:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2022

In 2018 Jared Leto appearedin the movie "the outsider", wich is not mentioned in this article. Oli4weber (talk) 12:53, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 13:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Oli4weber: Leto's role in The Outsider is mentioned in the article. See Jared Leto#2014–2021: From Suicide Squad to America. —Matthew - (talk) 16:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2022

jared lito's website security certificate expired in 2021. Idk if his personal website link should be removed, but it is a security risk, so that should at least be annotated. 80.220.45.83 (talk) 09:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

I have WP:COMMENTed out the parameter per your concerns. I agree we should not link to insecure sites. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 22:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)