Talk:Island (Zamoskvorechye)

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I'm not at all sure that Bolotnaya Square has something to do with Balchug. If there are some Muscovites lurking about, please clear up where the square is located. --Ghirla -трёп- 21:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

The aforementioned square is indeed located on the island. I'd like to mention, though, that Balchug is an unofficial name of the island -- believe it or not, it has no official name. (http://www.moskva.ru/history/legends/zamoskvorechie2.html , link in Russian) I myself always call it Sadovniki. Mapple 18:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

As a lifelong resident of the Island, I'd say the title of the page is misleading, at best. We the residents never use Baltchug name for anything else except the 200-meter Baltchug street and the memories of the old Baltchug hotel (now a Kempinski, rebuilt beyond recognition). Wiki photograph headed View of Kremlin from the Baltchug is taken from a point one mile west from Balthchug proper. The Island indeed has no specific name, - tightly merged with Zamoskvorechye mainland, it's not considered a special neighborhood (except by its few residents). I suspect that just like seven sisters, this entry's name comes from 1990-s expatriate community English. The question is, who will clean it up? Regards, --NVO 10:30, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

While I understand your concern, I must note that we have to call the article something. Is there another name that's better suited than "Balchug"? "Sadovniki"? "An unnamed island in the middle of Moscow"? In any case, mentioning that the island has no official name would be beneficial.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Same issue raised again - refs, please

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Ezhiki, as a resident of the place I demand references :)). I checked archives of the Exile and Moscow Times (expatriate papers), even these tourists don't call the island Balchug. I don't buy "if there's an island we must name it somehow" argument. Of many islands in Moscow, only Serebryany Bor and Tatararskaya Poima (both artificial islands cut off by man-made canals) have names, and guess what, no one complains. NVO (talk) 11:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

May be: "Bolotny Island" - I have two refs (in Russian):
But I can't say is it the original title of picture or it was added by authors in 2004.
Other refs with Bolotny: [1], [2](ru), [3](again with chief city architect), [4],[5](page 2 p41), [6]
There is name "Золотой остров" (Gold Island), but it is the name of 2003-2006 project of Island reconstruction [7].
Sometimes it is called "Kremlin island": `a5b (talk) 03:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
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