Talk:Hudson's Bay Company/Archives/2021

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Wtshymanski in topic Article issues


Edit request 18-JAN-2018

Requesting correction/clarification of some details on the HBC page. Requested edits numbered and noted below in bold, with sources cross-referenced at the bottom.

Hudson's Bay Company From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hudson's Bay Company (HBC; French: Compagnie de la Baie d'Hudson) (1) [7]
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is a Canadian retail business group. A fur trading business for much of its existence, HBC now owns and operates retail stores in Canada, the United States and parts of Europe, including Belgium, The Netherlands, and Germany. The company's namesake business division is Hudson's Bay, commonly referred to as The Bay (La Baie in French), and other divisions include Galeria Kaufhof, Gilt, Home Outfitters, Lord & Taylor, Saks Fifth Avenue (2) and Saks OFF 5TH.

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HBC's head office was in the Simpson Tower in Toronto, but it is now located northwest of Toronto in Brampton, Ontario.[8]
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The company is listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol "HBC"....

HBC directly oversees its Canadian (3) banners

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Hudson's Bay (formerly The Bay) and Home Outfitters, in addition to the operations of Lord & Taylor in the United States.

On 29 July 2013, the HBC announced its (4) acquisition

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of Saks, Inc., operator of the Saks Fifth Avenue brand.

In September 2015, HBC acquired the German department store chain Galeria Kaufhof and its Belgian subsidiary from Metro Group for (5) CA $3.9 billion.[15][16] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.85.105.7 (talk) 18:33, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

In May 2016, HBC announced it would expand to the Netherlands by taking over up to 20 former Vroom & Dreesmann sites by 2017. V&D was a historic Dutch department store chain that went bankrupt and shut down in early 2016. HBC said the (6)investment would be CA$340 million and create 2,500 jobs in the stores and another 2,500 temporary construction jobs. The Dutch stores would operate under the "Hudson's Bay" and (7) "Saks OFF 5TH" brands.[18]

On 16 July 2008, the company was sold to NRDC Equity Partners, a private equity firm based in Purchase, New York which already owned Lord & Taylor, the oldest (8) department store chain in the United States.[11][69]The Canadian and U.S. holdings were transferred to NRDC Equity Partners' holding company, Hudson's Bay Trading Company, as of the fall of 2008.[citation needed]

On 24 January 2012, the Financial Post reported that Richard Baker (owner of NDRC and governor of Hudson's Bay Company) had dissolved Hudson's Bay Trading Company and that HBC would now also operate the Lord & Taylor chain. (9) Baker remained governor and CEO of the business and Donald Watros stayed on as chief operating officer.[12]

The company also has retail operations in Europe, including (10) 10 Hudson’s Bay stores in the Netherlands and five Saks OFF 5TH stores in Germany as well as the 100 stores of the Galeria Kaufhof department store chain in Germany.[88]

Operations HBC is diversified into joint ventures and other types of business products. HBC has credit card, mortgage, and personal insurance branches. These other products and services are joint partnerships with other corporations. HBC also has other HBC Rewards corporate partners(11) . Points can also be converted to Air Miles.

HBC is involved in community and charity activities. The HBC Rewards Community Program raises funds for community causes. The HBC Foundation is a charity (12) involved in social issues and service.


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Request Edit – Sources and Background

(1) Hudson’s Bay Company is the parent corporation. The store, Hudson’s Bay, is commonly referred to as The Bay (Source: thebay.com)

(2) Correcting spelling (Source: hbc.com)

(3) Subsidiaries are specific type of business structure. This is not a true description for HBC stores. They are called “banners”.

(4) Source: http://investor.hbc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=780766

(5) Source : http://investor.hbc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=934427

(6) Important distinction to note that the investment came from HBC and landlords. Source: http://investor.hbc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=971214

(7) Correcting spelling

(8) Source : hbc.com

(9) Bonnie Brooks was president of Hudson’s Bay, the store, not HBC or any other of its banners.

(10) Source: http://www3.hbc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/2016-CSR-Report_FINAL_ENG_RED.pdf

(11) Source: http://www.hbc.com/hbcrewards/

(12) Source: http://www3.hbc.com/hbc/socialresponsibility/hbc-foundation-2/

199.85.105.7 (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)January 18, 2018

  Declined Please see individual comments above for more information about your request. Please advise as to the missing required elements and/or missing instructions for the proposals at your earliest convenience. Regards, Spintendo ᔦᔭ 20:03, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I'll add that because the company calls itself "The Bay" doesn't mean that it's the store's WP:COMMONNAME, but it is commonly called that, so I suppose we could add that in the lede. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:49, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Article issues

This article is a delisted Good Article. I didn't look at the history but the "Shortening the lead section" above concerns a bloated lead that is still "bloated". With 14 projects of interest it seems strange this has been allowed. The "External links" section is extremely bloated as well and the "See also" section appears to suffer from this and in need of trimming. Tags will likely result in a further demotion so if someone can look into this it would be appreciated. Otr500 (talk) 06:47, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

"Projects" don't work. Once the banner has been put on the talk page, that's the last interest most "projects" ever show in an article, in my limited experience of 0.1% of Wikipedia articles. --Wtshymanski (talk) 02:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)