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Sales Numbers - Escapist Mag are using VGC

From the looks of it, they are ripped straight from VGC. To further prove my point, the Escapist article is from Nov 08 and the number they quote for Halo 3 sales is exactly the same as the number VGC came up with during that time.

PLEASE edit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.247.47 (talk) 21:48, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

PC Version requirements

At the end of the section on the PC version someone added a little out of place sentence that says

"The only drawbacks of the Vista version are the extremely high graphics requirements. The game requires a high standard graphics card to play."

Could anyone remove this? It's pretty obvious some competitor just added that because The geforce 6100 (the minimum required card) DEFINITELY ISNT a high standard graphic card. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.73.121 (talk) 19:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

New Multiplayer Maps

Will the Blastacular maps ever be for free or available in commercial retail? I would get it, but unfortunately all Live information goes to my parents' credit card (I'm not old enough to get my own, I just turned 17) and they don't really like the idea of getting paid downloads even if I pay them back. --Averross (u♠t♠c) 12:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I think they'll have to be free, as matchmaking has been updated so you need them to play... Dåvid Fuchs ^{(talk / frog blast the vent core!)} 15:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

That's what I'm counting on since today'll be the last day I can play Matchmaking otherwise. --Averross (u♠t♠c) 16:30, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

the blastacular maps will probs never be free to buy commercially. however, you could just get a 1 month xbox live membership or a 2 month one you get with some games. that means you can go onto matchmaking, and it will automatically download the maps for ya. that'll save you having to folk out £15-20 on a something you'll use, then never use again. --leemyster 14:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

New Map Pack Problem

Should we include the new problem brewing with the Blastacular Map Pack? You know, the glitch with XBOX 360 users?--Nightmare975 03:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

What glitch would that be? It would help if we knew the problem before adding to the article. Alan Fishers 18:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Continents of the 2nd Halo

Is it of any significance that the area of Earth which the Covenant land on is very nearly of the same shape as the continent on the 2nd Halo that Master Chief lands on? I may be wrong as I have not played the game in some time though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.64.108.121 (talk) 04:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

I don't think that is important.--Nightmare975 04:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Its also not imporant because it barely looks anything like Africa whatsoever. Peptuck 06:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

New maps offline?

Does the new Blastacular Map Pack will be available for offline users? --MarioV 00:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

EBgames has no clue on the exact date as this is an assumption. Currently, no game distributors in the retail channel have an exact date. Also, this was to be a cuncurrent World Wide release, I noticed on the Halo 2 page for Wikipedia it had PAL as the 16th. Not sure of the cite, but that's wrong as well. Call anyone up world wide and ask. Germany, Finland, Australia, even Mexico! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pyos (talk • contribs).

Halo 2 Vista release date delyaed

According to ebgames and gamestop the new release date is the 22nd, not the 8th

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=111821&AFC-HSUIT&ATTR=DIGG —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Atwa5000 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC).

I have also seen the change of date from Gamespot. Colinization 16:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Bungie.net refs still a problem

The bungie.net refs are still broken. Doesn't really have a chance of getting to the main page if nothing can be verified. Might want to work on this...... --- RockMFR 00:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah, Rock, that annoying "they aren't working" thorn in my side... (I mean that in a good way!) ;) Thanks for reminding me, I've been busy on another article, but I'll index the broken links and remove them sometime this week. From a cursory try, archive.org wasn't able to fetch any of them, but I'm not used to it, you can see if you can do it... if not I'll just have to find alternative sources... David Fuchs^{(talk / frog blast the vent core!)} 01:30, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

NIN Link

There is currently a discussion going on about the link to NIN albums at the top of our Halo articles. Please see the RfC in the Halo 3 article. Should the choice be made to remove the link on Halo 3, the same argument will apply to Halo 2. ZG 15:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Cross-Platform?

Is the Vista and Xbox versions Cross-Platform?

No, though I need to look up a source to cite on that. Off the top of my head, though, I do recall this mentioned in a news article on Bungie.net. It may have discussed the cross-platform capability of Shadowrun in the article if that helps people find it. Anton P. Nym 20:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Pirate link?

Should this 'Free now to to download for Windows Vista, ' be on the article?

No, because that is illegal. You still must purchase the game in order to get the full features legally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.202.16.49 (talk) 08:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

New page deletion

why should the halo 2 vista page just be a section I think this should be addressed with its own page --Link287 16:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Currently the link to the supposed 'Main article' for Halo 2 Vista redirects back to the Halo 2 article. Alternatively, I think that the page could be used as an article for both Halo 2 games on the 2 platforms as they should be essentially the same. Songjin 04:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd prefer it if someone were to show that enough unique content can be generated for the article to warrant enough space before it gets made. A carbon copy or rephrasing of this article with a few changes here and there to indicate the differences between them doesn't really do anything but generate confusion and takeup space. (In fact it will likely just cause an delete/merge argument). Personally I think that content exists but there's already enough clutter and edit warring on here so its nice to be sure.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree we should wait for the content be necessitate before we create a page Link287 03:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

IWHBYD Skull

I Would Have Been Your Daddy is a chapter in Assault on the Control Room, From HALO: Combat Evolved. Does this have to do with the I Would Have Been your Daddy skull????  ATROCITY1313  (Contact me)

I am sorry but you are wrong the IWHBYD chapter starts at the beginning of The Maw, the last level on Halo drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk • contribs) 13:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

No. i played assault on the control room IWHBYD is the chapter that starts the level this weekend or sometime i have the time i'll play the game through again and say what the beginning chapter on the maw is but i know it isn't IWHBYD. SOOOOOOOO that means that you User:Megadeth1539 are WRONG209.159.197.82 (talk) 01:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree 209.159.197.82, the first chapter of Assault on the Control Room is "I would have been your daddy..." and shows the Grunts sleeping and then running away from Echo 419. The first chapter of The Maw is "And the horse you rode in on..." Just FYI. Matthew 18:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 10minnickm (talk • contribs)

Halo 2 running on XP

Halo 2 on XP It doesn't run perfect and its got bugs, but it runs. Interesting decision by Microsoft. Alyeska 03:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

how did you do this? Link287 03:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide video on somewhere such as YouTube as proof, please? -- Viewdrix 03:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Video, not an option sadly. Providing a screenshot of the game in windowed mode with XP idenfication in the background is my proof. Question on Wiki policy. I can provide information on how to make it work, but I think it might be a technical violation of the DMCA as it provides a game activation crack. Alyeska 04:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Bungie.net Link talking about how it works To put simply, because you don't have the system lag that comes with Vista, the XP cracked version plays smoother then the Vista version. You can only play Single Player, but since MP is practically empty, this is not a problem. Alyeska 04:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

there has been a Halo 2 Win2k patch on P2P since early June; I don't have the game, but did help set it up on a friends Win2k Pro machine. Had problems with the online component, but offline worked perfect. And of course better than XP.Paganize 15:31, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Do we know if MS planning to release the XP patch officially is a reaction to crackers (easily) making an XP patch, or were MS planning on releasing it anyway? That would be very useful information for this page JayKeaton 17:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

If you google "halo 2 xp compatability" there has been a recent announcment by falling leaf systems saying that if you buy halo 2 and someother game throught thier site they give you a free code that lets you play the vista games on xp. Its legal and been popping up on heaps of forums. By the way, the link to acaba doesn't go anywhere, it just goes to a site asking for login. We need a proper link to the free code. --Simpsons fan 66 23:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

The current link goes to his user page. A link to his thread, where you can download his files, is here. I'll add it as a reference.

--Anss123 23:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

here is the release info at falling leaf http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/preorder/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simpsons fan 66 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Those guys have not yet to release their promised XP patch.--Anss123 23:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Halo 2 for Vista

Maybe someone with the time and knowledge should make a new page for the Vista version of Halo 2, or else put some requirements for the game etc in. Lawnmowers Rock! 07:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Since almost nothing new exists on this version (unlike the notable addition of online multiplayer and new weapons to the first game's PC version) I don't think a new article is warranted. The current section seems to have it all covered.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 12:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I would have edited this myself, but this article is semi-locked. Under the section "Windows Vista Version" of the article, I take issue with the information given by the contributor. On the second paragraph down, the user wrote 'Bungie has stated that it will also have networking features of its own, resembling Halo PC's inclusion of free internet capabilities. This did not happen. Halo 2 released with LAN support, but Live is required for any Internet gaming.'

This implies that the owner must pay money to play internet gaming on H2 Vista. Although internet gaming does require Xbox Live (or Games for Windows Live- same thing), it doesn't require the Gold pay version to access online play. Xbox Live does offer a free Silver membership that allows you to access public servers and create your own public accessible games.

The Gold version simply gives you more servers to join than the silver version. The number of players on H2 Vista is not anything comparable to the Xbox version. The game plays just as well if not better on Vista depending on your setup. The last thing we need is to scare any more potential players away by inferring that it costs extra to play online. Will someone with more posts please edit the article to reflect the truth about free online multi-player. Tony42077 21:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Hopefully with the release of Halo 3 we will be able to remove semi-protection, as all the fanboys will vandalize that article instead. I've removed the section you brought up, as it was not in the proper tone for the article. David Fuchs ^(talk) 22:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for writing it like this (I'm a little new to wiki), but to be sure or corrected, by buying halo 2 for Windows, does online play come free with it? Or do I have to get the "Games for Windows Live" edition? I'm a little confused by your way of explaining it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.192.227.154 (talk) 18:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

A non-gamer's two pennies

I'm not a gamer and haven't played Halo, but I punched it up in Wikipedia just to see what the fuss was about. Thanks for including a summary of the plot. If I may make a suggestion, the details (notably in the last third) get a bit fuzzy, making it difficult to follow the ideas and the locations for someone who hasn't any familiarity with it.

For example, we're told they escape the city, but, errr....what city was this. O, is it the space station mentioned earlier? Maybe? Maybe not.

All being said, A for effort, but just a slight clean up to get the A+.

Well..the article is featured, but just to clarify, he starts out on the space station, then goes down to Earth, and then goes to Delta Halo.--Zxcvbnm 03:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I reckon the Story section is too long and too detailed for an encyclopaedia. It could do with a shortening, to about half its current length. Ong elvin 09:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, the details of the Halo 2 story get a bit fuzzy in the game itself. Rdfiasco (talk) 21:57, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Dead external links found

Ten or 14.7% of external links were detect as broken. —Dispenser 02:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Plot Summary.

Near the end of the plot summary, it says that Master Chief escapes on a Forerunner ship. It was actually a convenant ship that the Chief got off on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BFT9000 (talk • contribs) 06:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

(facepalm) Cortana repeatedly calls it a "Forerunner ship" throughout Gravemind and High Charity. Peptuck 07:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Your a little mistaken there BFT9000, he does escape in a covenant ship, but its in order to get to the forerunner ship that he is then taken to earth on. It is the same forerunner ship that powers high charity.

You are both wrong. The covenant were using High Charity's power systems to "power up and launch" the forerunner ship. And it..."wasn't so much as lunching, but disengaging" according to Cortana. 75.60.14.113 01:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC) <--dis guy's right.

All four of you are wrong. It are fact. I know because of my learning

ok now then to setle this, i need to tell you all that the ship in the center WAS Forerunner, and that IT was powering High Charity, not the other way around. So that means that when Cortana said disengaging, she meant that the ship was converting energy to the engines, instead of for use as a power plant.19:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)u

Contact Harvest clearly states that the ship in the center of High Charity is a Forerunner Dreadnought. I can look up the pages later if you want. Hydrokinetic (talk) 15:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

When does Cortana become imprisoned by the gravemind?

Ive played Halo 2 through a few times and dont remember ever seeing it, but my memory is poor so I may have missed it. So where exactly does it happen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.111.194 (talk) 11:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

if you beat the game on legendary you will see an extra cutscene at the end of the game that will show cortana speaking to the gravemind —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.208.36.57 (talk) 03:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. You see that cutscene regardless of what difficulty you are playing on. Hunter076 17:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

regardless of the cutscene, cortana stayed behind on high charity as she enters the systems on high charity before you board the ship. 92.42.56.62 (talk) 11:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Also do the Covenant speak english?

It is mentioned that they dont speak english, yet the covenant have no problem understanding humans, and vice versa, and neither have trouble understanding forerunner text and speak.

And also how do the three different civilisations use compatable software/programming language/runtimes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.111.194 (talk) 11:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Forerunner and human technology are very, very similair. This is explained in the novels, where humans instinctively know how to use Forerunner and Forerunner-derived Covenant technology. Peptuck (talk) 06:45, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

--The Covenant do not speak English, such a thing would be ridiculous, even for Halo 2. Instead, Bungie used the cop-out plot device of internal translators in the Marines'/Chief's suits. --NLUT

If you read Fall of Reach, you'll discover that the Covenant already knew how to speak English before Humans first encountered them. The message, "Your destruction is the will of the gods, and we are their instrument" was sent in plain English; it was not translated from the Covenant language. The Covenant had been observing humanity for some time prior to first contact. Also, the Halo 3 Limited Edition Beastiary booklet reveals that the Unggoy are often fluent in two or three Human tongues in addition to the Covenant tongues. Thus there is no "translation software" copout involved at any point in the games. You could count the Grunts from Halo 1 since they have no reason to speak English, but they're such comics that that's not really an issue. You could try and count the Brutes in Halo 3 with remarks such as "throw a grenade," but by that point Cortana has already infiltrated Covenant systems and gained an understanding of various Covenant systems; she has the ability as an AI to translate in realtime, so again, no copout involved. Ong elvin 08:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Just remembered that Cortana isn't with you for most of Halo 3. Well, no matter. The infiltration is performed during the first game, so translation software could have been created for use with the Mark VI systems. Ong elvin (talk) 14:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not a copout like the universal translators from Star Trek. In the first encounter with the Covenant at Harvest, the two races used Pictograms and sign language to communicate. By the time of Halo 1, they have already been fighting for decades and Humanity has learned their language, a translator would be trivial to build given the level of technology. As for the Forerunner speech, that technology is sufficiently advanced that anything is possible.

As for the computers, they don't use compatible software, all Cortana needs is memory and processing power, she adapts to the system she's in. Mad031683 (talk) 18:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Nine Inch Nails link

Look kids; we have redir tags because Pretty Hate Machine is also called Halo 2. Not everyone on Wikipedia is a teenaged Xbox gamer. More discussion on Talk:Halo 3, but seriously, is removing this so important? Chris Cunningham 10:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I am not a Halo Fan, nor am I a teenage X-Box gamer, and I am a Nine Inch Nails fan, but that being said, far more people associate "Halo 2" and "Halo 3" with the X-Box videogames than they do Nine Inch Nails albums. 75.130.109.87 01:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC) (public computer, not logged in)

100% Agreed. Though I may be a rabid Halo fan, and a teenage Xbox gamer, and not a Nine Inch Nails fan, I am still aware enough to realize that there are multitudes of reasons why it was removed, and if you want those reasons, go read the 70+ comments above about it. Just because we can think in an encyclopedic manner does not mean we should be talked to condescendingly. Hunter076 17:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Multiplayer: Spartan/Elite performance difference?

do Spartans and Elites differ in how they play out in multiplayer games? some of the guys on the GameFAQs message boards say the Elites are faster and higher jumping but have slower-recharging shields, and I was wondering if that was true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.218.92.100 (talk • contribs)

Short answer: not in the way the guy on GameFAQs is saying. There are no differences in terms of physical abilities. However, Bungie did confirm hit detection issues with the Elites- in other words, they were slightly easier to hit. I'm not sure if this issue was ever fixed in Halo 2, but it's not a problem in 3. David Fuchs ^(talk) 22:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted scenes?

It seems that the Legendary Edition of Halo 3 includes information on scenes which were cut from Halo 2 because of time constraints. I think they'd be an excellent addition to the article, to expand the "Development and release" section. Anybody want to give it a shot? 82.41.76.233 13:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

i'll give it a shot, i'd like it thought if people could just like give me the level name, and the basic idea, and i'll interpret them and add them into a new section of the articleREADY TO FINISH THE FIGHT! 14:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

done, though i think i missed some so please go and revise if necessary but DO NOT DELETE OR REVERT AT ALL!!! but yeah its in there now, its just a little bit lacking i think, so i'm gonna watch the DVD again and revise upon hearing the levels again.READY TO FINISH THE FIGHT! 19:16, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

WTF!!! WHO REVERTED IT, u ppl rlly need 2 accept things new!03:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Discopete117 (talk • contribs)

XP Compatbility

Stop removing this section. It is confirmed fact and has been for many months. Its perfectly valid information. Alyeska 06:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

We need to find a reliable source for it, though. Forum posts are not valid to verify information. -- Satori Son 06:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Already did that months ago. I posted a screenshot of the game running in Windows XP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Halo2-1.JPG Alyeska 07:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I gotta say that the rules are rather absurd. Its verified fact, but because its only talked about on forums, Wikipedia dismisses it out of hand. Alyeska 07:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Policy is policy, the rules say that if no reliable sources are provided this is not any more notable than your average mod. - Caribbean~H.Q. 07:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh yes, policy is more important than the factual truth. I thought Wikipedia was about stating known facts. Instead people hide behind the rules to delete factual information. Cutting off your nose to spite the face. Alyeska 07:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

You're missing the point. How do we know it's true?

The image could be forged. The forum post could be a hoax. I'm not saying that it was made up or that I don't believe you, but the policy WP:VERIFY requires that all information be cited to "reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Some reliable source must verify that the information is true before we can publish it. That's the only way we can know for sure.-- Satori Son 07:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

So if its not news worthy, it just slips through the cracks. Wonderful. Its been repeatedly demonstrated, but thats not good enough. What next, my screenshot also qualifies as original research? I gotta say, getting called a liar isn't going to do a very good job of convincing me of your point. Alyeska 07:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I never said you were a liar. In fact, I specifically said, "I'm not saying ... that I don't believe you"! Do not mischaracterize my statements. -- Satori Son 07:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Again if no reliable sources prove this is actually notable it will not be included, another mod by itseld is not notable. - Caribbean~H.Q. 07:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Will people please stop revert warring and discuss this? I'd fully protect, but I've reverted once and so am an involved party. I don't have an informed opinion on the reliability of the MegaGames source, but if we are going to use it, we should base that section on what's written there, instead of trying to synthesize it with the filefront forums stuff, which unquestionably flunks WP:RS. — TKD::Talk 01:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

What's there to discuss? the material is unencyclopedic, its nothing more than a illegal mod/hacking device. Though I must admit that the fact that the two accounts supporting it are tag teaming seems suspicious to me. - Caribbean~H.Q. 01:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, the legality of it is a bit of a red herring if it's been discussed in enough reliable sources for it to be given due weight, a thought that, given the popularity of Halo, isn't inconceivable, although it is the burden of those wishing to keep the information to demonstrate that, and to gain consensus that sufficient reliable coverage exists. At best all we've got so far is one source of somewhat unknown reliability. My point was that this back-and-forth reverting is getting nowhere, except 3RR warnings.

Those who want the information kept should be instead be giving more concrete links here, on the talk page, first, rather than repeatedly inserting contested information into a featured article. There is no consensus that the sources are sufficient to retain the information. — TKD::Talk 01:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Exactly - that is what I was trying to say above. I'm assuming the information is true, but "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." Instead of disruptively editing against consensus, the two editors who want to include the information need to spend their energies finding reliable sources to cite to. Then this will be a non-issue. -- Satori Son 01:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

And so instead of trying to help, your trying to delete. If you believe it to be true, you should be trying to help. Telling everyone else to go do work and deleting the information indicates you believe else wise. BTW, thank you so very much for tagging my image for deletion TKD. Such a friendly thing to do. Makes me want to give you the one finger salute for such a friendly gesture by your part. Alyeska 02:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It is common practice to remove challenged material from an otherwise higher-quality article until and unless sources are found. It is not helpful to continue inserting it despite policy-based objections from multiple users acting in good faith. This article is featured and must comply with the highest standards of Wikipedia verifiability. As Satori and I have been saying, truth per se isn't the issue here. We should be discussing sources.

As for the image, copyright is a very serious issue for Wikipedia. — TKD::Talk 02:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I had installed Halo2 in XP for a while, works better than in my friend´s Vista PC. The patch is all around the net, and probably several versions of them, i´ve already found 2 working versions. I´ve read some forums and the pic here in Wikipedia, and the pictures are true until proven false. Sometimes, some Wikipedia users can be really close-eyed. There are software to identify image tampering, so use them on the picture before stating something! Atriel 18:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Again, stop talking about truth. We need reliable sources. The featured article criteria require that "claims are verifiable against reliable sources" (see 1(c)). — TKD::Talk 00:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If I could put it another way - the pictures themselves are true, yes. But Wikipedia is subject to copyright laws. You must be able to provide a rationale that absolves them of any legal issues. That is reason why that policy exists. As for the XP Compatability mod, yes, that is true as well. But it doesn't matter on that part. What matters is that you have multiple high-profile sources to demonstrate it. Say for example that I come and read up on Wikipedia that George Bush is the president of the USA. Then I ask Wikipedia, "Can you prove it to me? Who told you this?" Wikipedia then has to be able to point me to multiple sources that told him - the election vote counts, the official website, press releases, and other official records. Ong elvin 00:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I'm sure this is very frustrating. I play Halo 2 on WinXP (SP2) using the modified .DLL's (dwmapi.dll, mf.dll, Wow.dll, MF.dll and XTaskDlg.dll) and v0.2 of abcba's loader.exe. But of course - how to "prove" that in a non-copyright infringing way? I could provide you links in UseNet to download the mods to try for yourself, but I'm sure the modded game .DLL's are covered by copyright. Just out of interest, how did "Shadowrun" get to mention that it works on XP? Perhaps that's the way to go; The Wikipedia entry for Shadowrun (for Vista) mentions it was modded by Razor1911 to run on XP (And it does) - how did the author of that article "prove" that? Lmeadm (talk) 15:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you read the article, the hack was done by a notable warez group, and two reliable sources were provided; [1] and [2]; in fact, the former mentions Halo 2 as well, so perhaps this could be the source we need? David Fuchs ^(talk) 15:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Not just the former, but both of your articles mention Halo 2 running on XP - would that be the two reliable sources that could get XP functionality into the main Halo 2 article? Sadly the creator of loader.exe abcba isn't as well known as Razor1911 outside the warez scene Lmeadm (talk) 20:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The point is, we all know it works on XP, and there is proof of this via screenshots, and people who have the game working on XP themselves can "testify" to that effect, I understand the whole Verifiability over Truth thing, but it has been verified by people who use it themselves, and verified by screenshots. End. Of. Bitch. Fist. End LuGiADude (talk) 13:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

About the Cliffhanger Ending

I read somewhere that the cliffhanger ending was only in the game because Bungie didn't have enough time to put the indended ending in the game. Aparently the actual ending was to take place on the Forerunner space ship. I was wondering if this was true. Is it? Blindsnyper (talk) 11:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

If there was a source for this, I'm sure it would've already been mentioned in the Development section. Also, Wikipedia isn't the place to ask for this sort of speculative information. ;) Ong elvin 14:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and if you're going to add a new section, best to add it at the bottom of the page, not at the top. Ong elvin 14:53, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Glitches

Should a new section about glitches be included (such as triple wielding). Not how to do them, obviously, though about them. Noobiemacnoss1 (talk) 00:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Doubtful. Most mentions of this type of material aren't exactly from reliable sources, or sources that treat the material as anything other than a how-to themselves. Simply mentioning things that traditionally have been considered game-guide material (Easter eggs, glitches, etc.) without having sources to show external significance (such as reliably sourced controversy, or inspiration for some other element of a game) doesn't really hold water. — TKD::Talk 00:57, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Halo 2 PC internet

While Bungie stated that the game would include internet capable gameplay similar to Halo PC, this did not happen. So either we remove the quote from Bungie about internet gameplay, or we add in the fact that the quote did not come true. Don't sumarily remove factual information without a reason. Alyeska (talk) 00:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't unilaterally delete content without discussion. Alyeska (talk) 02:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

To be honest his doesn't seem particulary notable, its just an unkept promise, what would be of Wikipedia if we start listning all unkept promises made by politicians? - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

His promise? A little more then that was deleted. Alyeska (talk) 02:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

David has seen fit to delete half of the information pertaining to the PC version of Halo 2. Alyeska (talk) 02:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Development

Anyone interested in why Halo 2 ends in a cliffhanger should look it up here. Then put the development info here in the article (I'd love to, but don't have the time). --Hydrokinetics12 (talk) 21:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the find: I'd been eying the article but wasn't sure where to use the info. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 21:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Something about the critical backlash that Halo 2 PC recieved in the reception section would be needed IMO

just a thought for making the article more complete.

I agree. Given that this is a FA, it should definitely be included. --193.210.88.251 (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought Halo 2 was a huge hit until halo 3 arived but even as that game has taken over, halo 2 is still a hit, Many fan sites like Haloinsight.weebly.com has some halo 2 contents in it. infact over 3,000 games were bought on the day halo 3 came out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 011assasin (talk • contribs) 00:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I think there should be more information about the marines in the halo games! Someone should start a page on them mabay.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grey Leader (talk • contribs) 17:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Shield Bar

Uh, I was reading the Halo 2 Bio about the game, and the part about it,"in Halo 2, you can't see the shield bar." I don't know if they were talking about having the Fog skull active or not but you can see the shield bar. Its right above the motion/enemy detector at the bottom left of your screen. It even shows a screen shot with the bar. I looked for an "edit page" tab button but it wasn't there. Can I, or someone else change this please?

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Dead Mans Chest?

In the release section it states "The game sold 2.4 million copies and earned up to US$125 million in its first 24 hours on store shelves, thus out-grossing the film Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest as the highest grossing release in entertainment history." Is it just me, or should we have a movie listed here that was actually out when the game was released? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.23.159.58 (talk) 21:38, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Halo 2 E3 Preview Party Music

8 Bit Weapon did the game environement music for the hollywood hills Halo 2 Preview Party. I think they should be listed in the "release" section of the article. Read their wiki for more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovesocket (talk • contribs) 17:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Reception and Review

This article has absolutely no information on PC reviews, reception, or scores. There is a pathetically small 2 paragraph side note about the Windows version with absolutely no information of value contained within it. Alyeska (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Random Correction

In the cheating section, it says that standby causes all players to freeze. This is not the case - standby causes players to continue moving at the direction and speed they were moving when the standby button was pressed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.99.245 (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

PC Graphics confusion

I was reading the section about the PC windows version of the game, and these two lines showed up:

"...the Windows version adds two exclusive new multiplayer maps, a map editor, improved graphics, and more."

Then, immediately following that sentence:

"The PC version also offers no graphic enhancements over the Xbox version, a fact which contributed to its disappointing sales."

Anyone else find this confusing? IOA94 (talk) 04:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

It probably has to do with someone adding in their own POV instead of what the sources say. I'll take a look when I can at addressing that. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 22:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

dawn of the dead (halo 2)

why does that redirect here? just curious —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.76.201.27 (talk) 04:52, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Halo 2 Engine

Halo 2 Engine isn't mention.~(74.163.16.27)~-Tailsman67 of Sonic News Network and others — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.17.213 (talk) 23:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

PC reviews and awards

Why no add the PC reviews? --190.11.51.84 (talk) 06:20, 24 July 2011 (UTC).

I Love Bees

It might be best for there to be a section about the I Love Bees marketing stunt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsgather (talk • contribs) 03:04, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Fan Criticism

This article should describe the surprising amount of negative criticism that Halo 2 received from fans (especially hardcore Halo 1 players), including mention of halo2sucks.com. Rdfiasco (talk) 04:18, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Halo 2 page filled with Halo 4 spoilers?

Currently the Halo 2 page is black and contains Halo 4 spoilers. Weird. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LOL-117 (talk • contribs) 01:24, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Rating

What is the rating of the game? I'm doing an Essay on video games and I want to know what the rating is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.16.178 (talk) 19:37, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

The rating field was removed from the videogame infobox because of this discussion: Template_talk:Infobox_video_game#Propose_removal_of_ratings_section.. You can find the ratings from plenty of other sources: Halo 2 is classifed Mature by ESRB: ESRB rating and rating PEGI 16+ : Halo 2 at GameSpot. The1337gamer (talk) 19:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Missing protection template

This article is missing the padlock template. Nobody can tell if this has an expiry date or if it's indefinite. 69.122.190.4 (talk) 22:33, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed, the article is semi protected indefinitely. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Sentence rewrite

A part of the page says 'developed by an internal team known as Microsoft Game Studios', but this implies MGS (Not Metal Gear Solid lol) just started up around Halo 2's release. It should say 'developed by an internal team at Microsoft Game Studios' because 'known as' makes the sentence read awkwardly. MontyOliver (talk) 21:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Anniversary

Someone with time and the knowledge of the sources should make a section for the anniversary, preferably with the title Halo 2 Anniversary instead of just remake or Anniversary as that way the redirect will point to the right section--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 22:00, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

incorrect ship classification

Since the page is locked, I'd like to point out there's a mistake in the synopsis. It says the ship used by the Prophet of Regret is a cruiser, "a single Covenant cruiser carrying an important member of the Covenant hierarchy..."; but the ship has been established to be a carrier, not a cruiser. I'd change something that trivial myself, but as I said, the page is locked. 2A02:1812:290C:8900:89CA:E2F3:CA29:6E76 (talk) 22:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2015

By June 20, 2006, more than 500 million games of Halo 2 had been played and more than 710 million hours have been spent playing it on Xbox Live; by May 9, 2007, this number had risen to more than five million unique players.

Sentence doesn't make sense, it says that the number of users has risen from 500 million games and 710 million hours to 5 million users. It should be:

By June 20, 2006, more than 500 million games of Halo 2 had been played and more than 710 million hours have been spent playing it on Xbox Live; by May 9, 2007, the number of unique players had risen to over 5 million. Mikewcaldwell (talk) 11:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

•  Done --The1337gamer (talk) 11:45, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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