Talk:Great spotted kiwi

To do

Sections to do:

• Description
• Distribution and habitat
• Behavior
• Reproduction
  • Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Then:

• Spell/Grammar check
• Nominate for GA

Shrewpelt (talk) 22:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Nominted for GA

I just nominated this article for GA, but under IP accidently. Sorry! Shrewpelt (talk) 16:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Great Spotted Kiwi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Lead

• Wikilink pigs, dogs, ferrets and stoats.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "other factors" looks very vague. I'd expand on this.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• Wikilink Nelson.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "A few small populations live on islands." You don't strictly mean populations. Perhaps "A small percentage live ..." or "A minority live ..."
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Description

• "The bodies are pear-shaped, with small heads and necks, along with long slender bills." There's a word missing from here.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "The eyes are small and do not see well." Why don't they see well? Is this why they're nocturnal?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "They can live up to fifteen years." Possibly live for up to?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Distribution

• "Once, Greater Spotted Kiwis lived across New Zealand, but are now restricted to the South Island." What happened for them to be limited to the South Island.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "Great Spotted Kiwis reside in burrows that they make. These burrows are complex, sometimes like a maze, with more than one entrance and exit.[14] Up to fifty burrows can exist in one bird's territory." Three short sentences in succession. Possibly try to re-word.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• Why isn't forest wikilinked?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Diet

• A lot of short sentences. I would suggest having a look to see how best to re-write this and improve the sentence flow.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Reproduction

• "To relieve the pain, females soak themselves in puddles." This sounds interesting. How do they do it? Do they purposefully lay the egg near water?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

General

• Numbers and their units should be split by a non-breaking space, e.g. 45 years.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• Are there any more images.
  •  Not done I've looked around, and don't see any free images, but I'm bad with images, so I could be missing some. Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

A bit to do, but I'll put it on hold. Peanut4 (talk) 23:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Great work and a nice read. If you were to take this article further, I would suggest getting a peer review before heading towards FAC. Although it's probably not essential, some more images would work well too. All the best with work on this article. Peanut4 (talk) 19:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

predation

I have serious problems with the following statement. Once the Great Spotted Kiwi was also preyed upon by the Haast's Eagle, which is now extinct. I realise it is cited, but the source is hardly authoritative. Given that kiwis are secretive and nocturnal a more likely predator would have been the Laughing Owl (or even an adzebill). According to Worthy and Holdoway (2002) kiwi bones have turned up in owl middens. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Towards FAC

Not a bad looking article. For FAC a few points:

• I have fixed alot of units per MOS, as well as made many plurals singular - there may be more (singular is best unless specifically talking about a pair or group of birds)

• Egg dimensions - also specifying speeds when kiwi is said to run fast.

• Probably expand upon conservation efforts

• Ratites are not a family, and may be an artificial group. Touching on taxonomy of the kiwi group in general (which should be in more detail on the general kiwi page)

Anyway, good luck and a nice read. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Article is looking awesome!

It really is, illustrations are really good too.. cladogram, photo of habitat, range diagram, image of birds themselves - all very relavant and important. Nice and succinct overall too. Nice work! It's inspiring me to do some work on an NZ bird article myself..Kotare (talk) 06:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Style

I've done a number of tweaks on this article lately and on reading through it more I still think it looks very good. The writing style seems quite "minimalist", bits feel almost bullet pointed they're so brief. Some might say it lacks flow but on the other hand it's very succinct - it feels very much like it's been mostly written by someone with a scientific writing background.. Kotare (talk) 05:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Map showing distribution

Is wrong. Roroa can be found all over Arthur's Pass National Park. Last kiwi survey I took part in identified 30 odd kiwi in the direct vicinity of Arthur's Pass village itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.233.74 (talk) 02:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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• From Ostrich: Clements, J. (2007)
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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Great Spotted Kiwi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Lead

• Wikilink pigs, dogs, ferrets and stoats.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "other factors" looks very vague. I'd expand on this.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• Wikilink Nelson.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "A few small populations live on islands." You don't strictly mean populations. Perhaps "A small percentage live ..." or "A minority live ..."
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Description

• "The bodies are pear-shaped, with small heads and necks, along with long slender bills." There's a word missing from here.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "The eyes are small and do not see well." Why don't they see well? Is this why they're nocturnal?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "They can live up to fifteen years." Possibly live for up to?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Distribution

• "Once, Greater Spotted Kiwis lived across New Zealand, but are now restricted to the South Island." What happened for them to be limited to the South Island.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• "Great Spotted Kiwis reside in burrows that they make. These burrows are complex, sometimes like a maze, with more than one entrance and exit.[14] Up to fifty burrows can exist in one bird's territory." Three short sentences in succession. Possibly try to re-word.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• Why isn't forest wikilinked?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Diet

• A lot of short sentences. I would suggest having a look to see how best to re-write this and improve the sentence flow.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Reproduction

• "To relieve the pain, females soak themselves in puddles." This sounds interesting. How do they do it? Do they purposefully lay the egg near water?
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

General

• Numbers and their units should be split by a non-breaking space, e.g. 45 years.
  •  Done Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
• Are there any more images.
  •  Not done I've looked around, and don't see any free images, but I'm bad with images, so I could be missing some. Shrewpelt (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

A bit to do, but I'll put it on hold. Peanut4 (talk) 23:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Great work and a nice read. If you were to take this article further, I would suggest getting a peer review before heading towards FAC. Although it's probably not essential, some more images would work well too. All the best with work on this article. Peanut4 (talk) 19:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)