Talk:George of the United Kingdom

Requested move 28 November 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus to keep current title. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 17:52, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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George of the United Kingdom → George of Great Britain – Of the links on the page, none have "of the United Kingdom" in them, but two have "of Great Britain". ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:35, 28 November 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink).  — Amakuru (talk) 10:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 02:15, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

• @Neveselbert: But the other four kings actually were of the United Kingdom, just not spelled out in the titles. I don't think the move is necessary (and certainly not uncontroversial). No such user (talk) 09:14, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
  • I believe it's advisable for (1) consistency with Edward of England, which uses the older title rather than Edward of the United Kingdom and (2) it's the most inclusive title, as all six were kings of Great Britain, but only the final four were kings of the United Kingdom. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:12, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
    • There were more Edwards that had been kings of England, whereas in this case four out of six kings named George were monarchs of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and (Northern) Ireland. Changing United Kingdom to Great Britain would be disregarding (Northern) Ireland's position as a part of the United Kingdom. Keivan.f^Talk 19:28, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

      I wouldn't think so, since the kings of Great Britain were also kings of Ireland, which included what would become Northern Ireland. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

      • The two kingdoms were not united back then, so it is sensible to have the name of the kingdom with which they were more strongly associated in the article titles of George I and George II; similar to how Mary II of England (who was Queen of England, Scotland and Ireland), Oscar I of Sweden (who was King of Sweden and Norway), George IV (who was King of the United Kingdom and Hanover) and some other monarchs who were kings/queens of different kingdoms simultaneously are strongly associated with one kingdom rather than the other. But after the unification it makes no sense to exclude one or the other, which is why George III is not at "George III of Great Britain", and since the number of Georges who were kings of the United Kingdom outnumbers the number of the ones who weren't, the disambiguation page should remain as it is. Let's see what others might think. Keivan.f^Talk 22:06, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

• Support. I think this makes the most sense, as the only articles with the country disambiguator in the title have "Great Britain" rather than "United Kingdom". Rreagan007 (talk) 03:24, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Four of the six were kings of the United Kingdom. It's really irrelevant in this instance what has or has not been added as a disambiguator. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose per Necrothesp. BD2412 T 17:14, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Necrothesp.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:48, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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