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Spiritism

Thanks for the move of Spiritism. But I hope you can finish up the move by solving the 519 links to disambiguation pages (6 templates) that are created with the move. I have no idea how many other links to disambiguation pages there are outside the templates, but please...?? The Banner talk 21:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I have updated those to link to Kardecist spiritism instead. Vpab15 (talk) 17:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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2018–2019 Gaza border protests

Hello, thanks for taking the time to review this move discussion.

Can you please elaborate what you meant with "no consensus"? [1]

WP:RMCIDC elaborates that "Consensus is determined not just by considering the preferences of the participants in a given discussion, but also by evaluating their arguments, assigning due weight accordingly, and giving due consideration to the relevant consensus of the Wikipedia community in general as reflected in applicable policy, guidelines and naming conventions. ".

Most of the opposing votes were not based on any policy guideline, therefore, consensus does not involve such WP:IDONTLIKEIT arguments. WP:COMMONNAME is clear in saying that common names override neutrality concerns, and not "which one is more neutral".

I am writing you here per WP:IMR: " Before requesting a move review: please attempt to discuss the matter with the closer of the page move discussion on the closer's talk page." Makeandtoss (talk) 11:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

The two main policies mentioned were WP:POVNAME and COMMONNAME. The WP:BURDEN is on the supporters to provide evidence their preferred title better satisfies those policies. In my opinion that was not achieved. The evidence provided was questioned. Opposers claimed the sources provided were cherry-picked and didn't prove the proposed title was the common name. They also questioned the supposed non-neutrality of the current title, saying it was a neutral descriptive title and the proposed title was not neutral. Vpab15 (talk) 12:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

WP:POVNAME: "In such cases, the prevalence of the name, or the fact that a given description has effectively become a proper name (and that proper name has become the common name), generally overrides concern that Wikipedia might appear as endorsing one side of an issue." Can you elaborate how this violates the policy?

The burden of verifiability has been achieved as demonstrated by the analysis of 40 high quality reliable sources using the term. The claims that the sources were cherry-picked were refuted by the argument that these articles were newer, which aligns with WP:NPOVNAME which gives an exception for: "Trendy slogans and monikers that seem unlikely to be remembered or connected with a particular issue years later".

The opposers to the move then could not provide any further arguments to support their position based on WP policy. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Already explained my reading of the discussion, I don't have much more to add I am afraid. Vpab15 (talk) 13:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

And the point that the cherrypicking claims were refuted by the newer articles published and according to the NPOVNAME guideline which explicitly names this specific case? Makeandtoss (talk) 13:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)