Talk:George Willis Pack/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Rublamb (talk · contribs) 20:00, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 17:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.

I'll be reviewing this over the next few days. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 17:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

General comments

First look: Looks good on first read, will leave notes as I review.

Prose and content

•  Done "Anti slavery" -> "Abolitionist" and link Abolitionism in the United States. Comment: The anti-slavery movement and abolitionism were different in the 19th century. Smith was an anti-slavery movement leader who later became an abolitionist. According to Britannica, Smith changed to abolitionism in 1835, so it is fair to describe him as an abolitionist at the time he would have been Pack's Sunday school teacher. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
•  Done Confusing whether he was living with his family or just dad in Sanilac County and Lexington. Comment: The source just says he went to Sanilac with his father. However, census records confirm that his mother was in Lexington in 1850. I have adjusted the text to reflect this that the entire family moved to Lexington.
•  Done Any idea of when his holdings were 5,000 acres? "Eventually is very vague". Comment: The source does not say. Hopefully, my update to the text makes it better.
•  Done Do you know if Pine River is listed at Pine River (Michigan)
•  Done The company operated in Oscoda, Michigan, in 1882 beginning in 1882?
•  Done was considered one of the finest in the world attribution
•  Done Move he deeded lots in Montford... to the philanthropy section
• What was Pack's role in the case of streetcar pole removal? Is it just that he was president at the time of Detroit Railway?
•  Done So did he start the Detroit Railway?
• Aston Park on South French Broad Avenue are there more than one Aston Parks?
• On May 30, 1896, Pack wrote the Buncombe County Commissioners, "Gentlemen: If the County of Buncombe will give the land in front of the court house for a site for a monument in honor of Zebulon B. Vance, I will give $2,000 toward the erection of such a monument." quite redundant given preceding sentence, can be reworded in prose
• and also covered the expense of converting the bank into a library. Yes, isn't this why he bought the building? Redundant.
• In 1911, Asheville Public Library was renamed Pack Memorial Public Library in his honor. WP:POSA re in his honor
• Their children included Did they have other children beyond those listed?
• The Pack family moved to Port Huron, Michigan, in 1857 mentioned twice
• renovate and expand the properties, resulting in a combined thirty-room house if the houses were combined this should be alongside renovate and expand, or substituting them.
• They stayed at the city's finest hotel I can only see this in one source, and it doesn't make as strong a claim
• However, they retained an Ohio residence, using Asheville as their winter home this seems at odds with Pack moved to Asheville, North Carolina, for his wife's health in 1884.
• He was interested in golf and donated the grounds and golf links to the Swannanoa Hunt Club I don't really know what golf links are, but having read the Wiki page I think if you are donating golf links you are necessarily donating the grounds?
• Suggestions: Pack's portrait was commissioned and still hangs and Another portrait of Pack is on display in the library MOS:DATED
• When the portrait was installed, Locke Craig spoke, saying, "He made these gifts not at the request of anyone. Needed though they were, indispensable as they now appear, they always come to us as a surprise. They were all the result of his own generous impulse: they were made, not as an invitation to praise or flattery, but modestly, unostentatiously, with no self-laudation ... he gave because he wanted to give." Yes, we have already stated he is a philanthropist. If it needs to be included, can be reworded in prose as "Craig spoke at the portrait's installation, praising Pack's generous giving."
• Pack Square, which bears his name
• Pack is credited with naming attribute, or just Packed named

Sources

• Cite inflation figures - Comment: this is provided by the Wikipedia inflation template and, therefore, does not require a source

Citations for the template are provided, through Template:Inflation/fn. Annoying they are not bundled. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• The ncpedia article is a reproduction of the Dictionary of North Carolina Biography which should be what is referenced.
• Romantic Asheville not RS

Spot Check:

1) In 1857, he became involved with real estate around Fort Gratiot Township, Michigan.: Don't think he became involved with real estate around Fort Gratiot Township at this time. Maybe you can link me to what in the source this is referencing.

2) The latter was originally a public park for African Americans. Doesn't seem true. "The area around the park was already fairly integrated at the time."

3) The local courts also adjourned in his honor. Y

4) Their children included son Charles Lathrop Pack (1857) and daughters Mary (1860), Millicent (1865, died as an infant), and Beaulah (1869). Y (nitpick: spelling of Beulah)

5) This resulted in a court case that went to the Supreme Court of the United States in 1898. Y

6) In 1861, Pack and John L. Woods established Carrington, Pack & Company, a sawmill in Sand Beach Township, Michigan, that operated for nine years. seems incorrect, given the source says he incorporated it in 1894. Can you provide me blockquotes from the second source provided, as I can't access it?

7) On February 1, 1899, Pack offered to purchase the former First National Bank building to consolidate the city's library collections as the Asheville Public Library. Y (nitpick to above nitpick) Feb 1 is when his proposal to purchase the property was received, not when offered; adjust text to clarify.

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 17:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Everything Else

• Images: good, appropriately tagged Y
• Stable Y
• Neutral Y
• OR/COPYVIO Y