Talk:G2A/Archive 1

Archive 1

Edit re Owner

Wikimedia received an email from a representative of the company, requesting the addition of Dawid Rożek to the sidebar. However, I checked the template, and did not not see a “founder” entry. He is one of the two co-founders. I have not seen a reference identifying the owner(s). I removed the entry from the infobox, and corrected the lede.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 September 2016

G2A itself does not sell the keys and software on the site, the users do Should be corrected to G2A itself does not sell the keys and software on the site except for the pre-orders, the users do.

G2A currently sells all pre-order products on their website, under the same 100% feedback untraceable account That specific user is the only one who you can't either pull their profile or feedback from the product page or checkout page.

Thefinalwar (talk) 08:57, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- ferret (talk) 15:02, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Sentence Disconnected/Extraneous Information - Misleading (Save The Children)

The first sentence of the Charity section is disconnected from all other content in the article, and misleadingly introduces the following discussion of G2A charity activity as though it were associated with either "#GamingTuesday" or the charity "Save The Children" or the date 01-12-2015 with any significance, but all statements in the article, preceding or following, make no connection between G2A or any other topic discussed and the topics in this sentence. G2A supports a different charity over Save The Children, was not involved in #GamingTuesday, and has no particular association with the date. The rest of the article neither connects nor contrasts the quoted sentence. Either a connection, logically and semantically, between this sentence and the rest of the article needs to be added, or the out of place sentence needs to be removed, as it erroneously implies an equivalence between Save The Children and Gaming For Good, and G2A's respective relationships with the two disparate organizations.

On 1 December 2015, multiple Twitch.tv streamers, YouTubers, websites and gamers participated in a program dubbed #GamingTuesday in order to raise funds for the charity Save The Children.

Chimon (talk) 22:18, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

hpHosts listing

Is it notable that G2A is blacklisted by hpHosts by their own administrator? Source: hosts-file.net/?s=g2a.com BFeely (talk) 16:12, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

• G2A has been reported for selling pirated Malwarebytes keys on multiple occasions - https://forums.malwarebytes.org/topic/168469-are-these-legit-mbam-keys/ BFeely (talk) 16:15, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

• Notable enough to be included under the 'controversies' section, yes. Chimon (talk) 22:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Article Bias

This article is biased in that it makes no mention of all the shady things G2A is known for, such as making it extremely difficult to unsubscribe from their premium "Shield" service, claiming that they offer refunds for faulty keys — but in reality simply spin the customer around in circles and never actually refund any money — and their lies about not selling stolen keys, and lies about purported "key verification" that is supposed to test whether a key is real or not but in reality does nothing.

These facts should be included in the article so as not to paint a false positive picture of the company, when such a picture is dishonest. Biglulu (talk) 08:11, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Biglulu: There's nothing stopping you from adding it yourself. There's already a controversies section, so it's not like it doesn't include anything on that. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:21, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

You just need reliable sources for these things, and while I myself am fully aware of these issues, we don't really have coverage of them outside of forum posts, etc. Now, I do know there was that AMA yesterday that got reported, and which specifically highlighted the key verification issue. However, the only RSes that covered it simply noted that this came up , a user supposedly provided real-time proof, and G2A couldn't really respond well. This is not verification that the issue exists, from RSes. In other words, that AMA issue is not really helpful towards this end. --MASEM (t) 14:33, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

The records of major, high-traffic figures within the youtube/gaming/streaming community condemning G2A for the "shady" activities you are referencing is sufficient as reliable source --that a controversy exists-- regarding these topics. A 'reliable source' doesn't need to demonstrate whether the 'shady' activities happened, but merely that a public controversy exists among high-traffic community figures regarding the activities you are describing as shady. 02-02-2017 During a stream playthrough of "The Last Of US" the streamer 'Destiny' publicly criticized the the activities you described, in particular, and characterized G2A and their activities, as, "shady as fuck." He went on to disclose specific dollar amounts regarding financial offers made to specific streamers, including himself. All of this is permanently archive as a primary source. (Roughly 1hr50min into 02-02-2017 recording). I'm sure there are plenty of other major figures with high-traffic that are on AV record making similar comments (because there really is a controversy). Reliable sources establishing that a controversy exists don't need to show that a claim is true, merely that it is of significant prominence in the gaming community. MaximusBlack is sited as a partner with G2A, which he has been, but he has also made very critical comments along the same lines regarding 'shady business practices' which are archived somewhere. A couple of these high traffic community leaders expressing these concerns is a reliable source documenting the existence of a controversy. All you have to do is hunt down the videos and cite them with a timestamp. Print media is not intrinsically more reliable or professional than an AV recording. Chimon (talk) 22:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

That is not how our reliable sourcing policy works. We can't use random twitch streams or youtube videos as they are not vetted sources that we require for RS. I am not denying that G2A is known for a lot of shady stuff, but we just can't include player reactions, we need journalistic sources. --MASEM (t) 23:03, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

There are a lot of sources about the way G2A is working, for example: [1], [2], [3], [4], apart from the lot of sources which popped up since the Gearbox controversy. Hervegirod (talk) 12:19, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2017

The "awards" given to this company are not from legitimate businesses, these are PR spin companies which you pay to receive accreditation, this required a 10 minute google search at max to verify. 2604:6000:A905:2E00:3D8C:B0B7:EBF9:E06D (talk) 19:39, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Partly done: Per a discussion I had with Ferret in WP:DISCORD, the only notable award is the Business Insider award. The rest, on top of what you said, are "non-notable and trivial." jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 23:49, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

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As the keys sold were not always bought directly from the developer, sometimes the companies would not receive any money from the sales.[7]

The statement that developers not always receive some money is really false. No matter what the origin of the keys is, they always come from the developer at the end and it was developer who produced the keys in the first place. These keys are not randomly generated in Excel using =rand() or something, they are sold by developers to distributors (to be used in boxed editions), to online distribution platforms (like GMG) to be resold, to bundle selling platforms (e.g. Humble Bundle) or other places but are always sold somewhere to someone first and then they're redistributed via G2A. The very same example can be made for used cars. While a person can sell a car they owned to someone else, it was the car's manufacturer who sold the car first and that's when their money came. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.189.30.69 (talk) 11:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Keys bought with stolen creditcards not only don't give the developers money as the legitimate owners of the creditcards issue chargebacks, but they actually cost them money because the creditcard companies charge fees for the chargebacks. --TiagoTiago (talk) 17:37, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2018

Per multiple sources, G2A is working with Microsoft using Azure cloud technology to help minimize the risk of potential fraud. Propose the following edit to the page indicating this in the products and services section.

2016 numbers show the platform has processed 22 million transactions throughout the entire G2A ecosystem, which is valued at $313 million. G2A began a partnership with Microsoft in 2017 that would utilize Azure cloud technology to help minimize the risk of potential fraud. JHKeel (talk) 17:52, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 19:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Thieves - they take your money

It is well known that their money-back guarantee is a farce. When your key turns out to have already been used and then re-sold to you, your only recourse is to request a refund from the seller, wait 2 months for them to not reply to you, and then request a refund from G2A. G2A will then open a ticket, whereby they have you jumping through multiple hoops (including filing a police report) for months, only to tell you in the end that they've determined that your status doesn't qualify for a refund. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.112.43.124 (talk) 18:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 19:43, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Multiple issues with the entry

Hello! I've noticed that the G2A entry has received four very negative tags. Is there any way these can be removed, like by editing the entry so that it meets the standards? Can you suggest which parts of the article are considered "marketing material" so that I can remove them and improve the entry?

Best, --JohnnyRonan (talk) 08:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi JohnnyRonan I suggest reading WP:PROMO, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch and WP:NPOV. Then, read some of Wikipedia's best work on companies like Cracker Barrel and BAE Systems. These will show what Wikipedia articles should look like and what language to avoid. Then, use the request edit template to propose new text for the article by following the instructions at Template:Request edit/Instructions. Once the article is free of promotional and POV prose, you can use the request edit template to ask a reviewer to remove the tag. Let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I cut a sizeable portion of the article's various sections to remove any content that might be perceived as promotional. I hope this is enough to have some of the negative tags removed. Let me know if there is anything else that requires my attention. Best wishes, --JohnnyRonan (talk) 11:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi JohnnyRonan as mentioned on your talk page, you are strongly discouraged from editing this article because you are a paid employee of G2A. Instead, please use Wikipedia:Request Edit Wizard to request edits to this article. You can also use this tool to request that an editor reassess and remove the banners at the top. I have reviewed your edits and decided that they were good edits to the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)