Talk:Frank Spedding/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I will review this article. Expect comments within a few days. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Infobox

• A picture would be nice to have here

  Yes. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

  So why is there no picture in it right now? Seems incomplete without one Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

  I don't have one. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:26, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

  Google Images has tons of pics you can use. Keep in mind that using non-free images is fine for biographies of the deceased. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

  I have uploaded one I have on my server. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

  Thank you. As the pic has an appropriate FUR and is (obviously) relevant to the article, I can now pass this for GA. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

• For an American subject, MDY format should be used for dates per MOS:DATE

  Converted the dates. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Lead

• Is Spedding known to have had Canadian citizenship? If not, he should simply be described as an American chemist rather than a Canadian American per MOS:BIO, which says to generally just include nationalities.

  All the sources call him a Canadian, but he acquired U.S. Citizenship when his Canadian father was naturalized. Added this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• See above note on MDY format

Early life and education

• Again, use MDY format
• His mother's maiden name (Marshall) should be included

  Added. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• Did Spedding have any siblings? If so, include their names and whether they were older or younger

  None are recorded. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• A "was" should be placed between "he" and "born" in "Soon after he born"

  Corrected. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• "showed great promise" doesn't really seem formal or neutral

  Deleted. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Early career

• I've said it before and I'll say it again: please use MDY because this is an American subject
• How and when did Spedding first meet his wife Ethel? How long were they together before marrying??

  I know how, but not precisely when It was while he was at Berkeley, which means somewhere between 1929 and 1931. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• When was his daughter born?

  In 1939. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• Add a comma after "Around this time"

  Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Manhattan Project

• MDY, not DMY
• "The best way"..... most effective would be a better description

  Uh.. okay. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Later life

• I'd make these four short paragraphs into two or three longer paragraphs per MOS:PARAGRAPHS, which discourages really short paragraphs

  Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• Once again, please use MDY
• "Over the years" → "Throughout his career"

  Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• Is "250 peer-reviewed papers" referring to the 260+ articles mentioned here on page 3 of the PDF?

  Yes, Changed to 260. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• Dead link needs to be replaced

  Restored from archive. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• This does not explicitly mention December 15, though I did find that date here, and it can be used in place.

  Added. It does implicitly though, since we know December 16 was a Sunday, so Saturday was December 15.

• It's probably worth including he had three grandchildren at the time of his death

  Done. I don't normally include grandchildren, because often more are later born.

• If known, I'd include what Spedding died from

  Not known. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Patents

• I don't see how this section is really needed as it only contains a list of links

  Removed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Notes

• Again, MDY should be used
• For FN16, I don't think it's necessary to include page numbers for the Seaborg PDF or have it as an sfn ref as it is the only reference to this document

  I like to keep the books down there together. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

  Even so, the PDF wasn't exactly a "book". I've adjusted accordingly.

All points addressed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

• Sorry for not getting to this sooner, Hawkeye7. Good work so far. The main thing this needs right now is an infobox image. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Overall

• Well-written?

• Prose quality: Decent, but needs improvements
• Manual of Style: Could be better

• Verifiable?

• Reference layout: Questionable use of "Sfn" for one of the refs
• Reliable sources: Looks good
• No original research: Close, but not quite

• Broad in coverage?

• Major aspects: Mostly good, but a few bits are missing
• Focused: No excess detail

• Neutral?: Almost

• Stable?: Nothing of concern

• Illustrated, if possible, by images?

• Appropriate licensing: Does not apply since there are currently no photos used
• Relevance and captioning: It would be worth adding a picture of Spedding to the infobox

• Pass or Fail?: Placing this on hold for seven days. Not too many problems with the article. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)