Talk:Evgeni Malkin
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editThe box says he stands at 1.92 m (6 ft 3 in), but 1.92 m is actually closer to 6 ft 4 in (6 ft 3.591 in precisely).superbad
Can we get some citations? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CABLEFTW (talk • contribs) 23:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC).
I'm not so sure about the claim that Malkin "chose" to remain in Russia to improve his skills before entering the NHL. It's certainly widely believed in Pittsburgh that the only reason he spent the 2005-2006 season there was due to contractual obligations and the lack of a transfer agreement. I also find it odd that he's referred to as the best player outside of the NHL, when Aleksey Morozov won the Russian Super League MVP award this year. I'd love to see a credible cite for both of those claims. Geoffrey Spear 13:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Malkin breaks glass - not sure if this belongs.
editNot sure if this should be added to his NHL debut section, but he broke a pane of glass with his slapshot in his first NHL game. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 01:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
will someone add his current season to his statistics section?
Best outside NHL
editWhoever said Morozov could be considered best over Malkin. HA HA HA HA. ROFL. That is hilarious. Nobody who knows a thing about hockey would put those 2 guys in the same category, unless that category is being from Russia. Malkin >>>>>>>> Morozov. No contest. The real debate now is between Crosby, Ovechkin, and Malkin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.235.20.63 (talk) 19:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I did write that 2 years ago, before he played a shift in the NHL and after he lost the RSL MVP to Morozov. And now that he's been in the NHL for 2 seasons I can't see why you'd think whether he used to be the best player not in the NHL was still relevant. Geoffrey Spear (talk) 21:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, even then Malkin was still widely considered by ANYONE who knew anything about hockey the best player outside the NHL. Anyone would have thought you were crazy even then to say Morozov lol. Did you not watch Malkin in the 06 Olympics? Did you ever watch any highlight packages of him from the RSL and international competition? Your comment just seemed like it didn't stem from any research. It seemed like you just knew a couple small facts and decided to make a comment on it. I am just saying if you did the research you would have seen how highly coveted he was at that point, and his highlight videos were amazing. Also, you may have researched that Morozov was not very successful in the NHL. Success in the RSL does not translate exactly to the NHL.
- Sign your posts please, and no, Malkin was not considered the best player outside of the NHL when he played in Magnitogorsk. --Krm500 (talk) 23:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Best is very very subjective, and using highlight videos as a measurement is just laughable. It's irrelevant now but we could mention the hype and that he was considered to be one of the most promising prospects in the world. --Krm500 (talk) 01:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's a strong statement, for sure, and obviously one that can generate conflict. But it seemed to me, when Malkin was playing in Russia, that it was was pretty unanimous. Two more references in addition to Wafulz's: [4] [5] Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 08:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- All from North American press, who I doubt has a good overview of hockey in Europe. I'm not denying he was one of the best players in Europe, just that there is no way to determine who was the best. --Krm500 (talk) 13:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Then let's add something like "Malkin's arrival was greatly anticipated with many ["North American", if you want] analysts and commentators suggesting that he was then the best player not in the NHL."-Wafulz (talk) 19:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Lawsuit
editI do not understand how his former Russian team can sue if he gave his two weeks notice. (Who made this comment)??
- The lawsuit apparently involves an antitrust claim. They are most likely claiming that the two weeks notice is not sufficient in Russia. I believe they can ask the U.S. court to recognize the ruling of a Russian court - though the U.S. court may decide not to follow that decision. More details will be filled in when avaliable.Veritasjohn 22:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Joe Malone's record
editThe reference cited for Malkin "tying" the record set by Joe Malone et al is simply wrong. NHL.com [[6]] states clearly that Malkin is the first player since those 3 guys from 1917 to score in his first 6 or more games, but that all 3 of them scored in more than their first 6. The point of that phrasing is that no one since then had scored in more than 5 in a row to begin a career, not that the record was 6. Malone scored in his first 14 games, en route to setting a goalscoring record that stood for almost 30 years. I'm changing the language back and adding a new reference. Geoffrey Spear 14:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
i believe in a interview when malkin first came to america he told his side of the story that he did turn in a 2 week notice and the coach or whatever wrinkled it up and threw it into the garbage and claimed that it was never given to him nor had he ever seen the note before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.46.255 (talk) 20:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Pro career
editIs the RSL not "professional" enough to have Malkin's time there considered part of his "pro career"? I'm changing the data back to 2003. Geoffrey Spear 04:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Jewish Faith?
editMalkin has been seen crossing himself several times while playing for the Penguins. Here's one link verifying it. http://hockey-madness.blogspot.com/2006/09/malkins-first-nhl-game-vs-flyers.html#links This happened to Stephen Weiss a few years ago. Everyone thought he was a Jew because of his name, but it turned out that he was just really German. Srn121 22:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- I marked it as needing a citation a week ago. I can't find anything by Googling, so I'm removing that statement. Geoffrey Spear 03:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe he's Christian, but ethnically Jewish. (no sources, but Malkin is a common Jewish name, and he looks Jewish,) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.6.145 (talk) 03:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that's not sufficient. We'd need a good source.-Wafulz (talk) 03:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Weight
editPittsburghpenguins.com and Yahoo! Sports list Malkin's weight as 192 lbs, NHL.com at 195, NHLPA at 175, and TSN at 186. None of them out any sort of dates on this information, so can we just leave it at 195 and stop the constant reverting and reediting? Geoffrey Spear 20:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Nickname
editIs it spelled Geno or Gino? A citation would be good as well. BocoROTH (talk) 09:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's generally spelled "Geno" due to 'Evgeni'; you can search pens.nhl.com and the Pittsburgh papers, but I do strongly feel it should be in here somewhere, as it could just be considered as much a diminutive as "Jimmy," and he's referred to constantly as such by teammates. ConkblockCity (talk) 02:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've seen both spellings regularly in print media.-Wafulz (talk) 14:52, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- "Print media", yes...because I doubt many reporters bother to ask, but the Pittsburgh print consensus is "Geno". I have also heard that the tape on his sticks says "Gino". So is the spelling really such an issue? How is an authority supposed to be established for this, anyway? ConkblockCity (talk) 16:12, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- We don't have the nickname field anymore so it irrelevant. --Krm500 (talk) 16:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's not for the "nickname field", though; it's notable. It's like being Jimmy Howard when you're listed as James. He is referred to as "Geno"; it's more of an alternate form than just a nickname. ConkblockCity (talk) 16:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yup as long as its sourced you would proably add it in the first sentence of the article. And I am sure it can be sourced as I have seen it in print. -Djsasso (talk) 16:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's not for the "nickname field", though; it's notable. It's like being Jimmy Howard when you're listed as James. He is referred to as "Geno"; it's more of an alternate form than just a nickname. ConkblockCity (talk) 16:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
I thought his nickname was Malkin-stein. Actually, Malkin translated from Navajo means "big gork who breathes through mouth". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.189.251.1 (talk) 19:25, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Transfer dispute
editThis article obviously devotes a lot to the tranfser dispute preceeding his NHL debut. While still entirely important, I think it hinders the flow of the "Playing career" section. Perhaps all details pertaining to the transfer dispute could be placed in a subsection to "Playing career" and be briefly mentioned in the main section. Thoughts? Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 07:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea. A subsection detailing his transfer debacle would be a lot better, seeing how defining it was in the early NHL career of Malkin. Kaiser matias (talk) 06:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Now speaking English
editThe Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has reported that Malin can speak some English. I haven't read very many foreign hockey player's articles, but is this notable enough for inclusion? It seems he's to the point where he can "speak English appropriate for TV", unlike last season at this time, lol. Blackngold29 18:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe consider revising "When Malkin arrived in the United States, he spoke no English, but through the help of fellow Russian and teammate Sergei Gonchar, he eventually started to give short, simple interviews in the language.", but other than that I don't see it as a big deal that he can speak a language that just about everyone else in the league can speak as being particularly notable. Geoffrey Spear (talk) 19:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
heard that he knew english, but didn't speak it to avoid the press. smart man, or did he not really know english until now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.160.113 (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Evgeni's nickname pronounciation
editHow do you pronounce his nickname? Is it just plain old Geno (gee-no) or Geno (zche-no)? Can someone tell me? Thanks! P.S. I Rock Wikipedia! (talk) 03:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)DJ WikiBob
His nick name is spelled Gino. It is what HE custom orders on all of his sticks.
Custom Malkin stick. I have 6 of his sticks. 2 of them from last years MVP season. They all say Gino. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.150.2.29 (talk) 21:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
And his personal twitter account has it as "Geno", we should go with the general concensus. Official Twitter page of Evgeni Geno Malkin.
Duncan3dc (talk) 21:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
His and all NHL players twitter is set up by the PR Reps to get them verified. If you ever seen his order form for his sticks and other equipment he writes Gino. He is named after a Russian mobster whose name was Gino. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.150.2.29 (talk) 21:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Does his PR Rep tweet for him as well? "Geno and sid))))"
My point was that it is clearly used both ways, and we should stick with the most common usage, which is "Geno"
Duncan3dc (talk) 09:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
I can't imagine the rant that would take place if you knew it was spelled Gino. To further the twitter thing...NHL PR Reps set up twitter accounts most of the time. For a long time his brother was tweeting for him. He now uses it on his own. As far as his nickname goes and how he got it, it's from a Russian Mobster named Gino who looks just like him from a painting that was in Gonchars house. Colby Armstrong started that in the locker room several years ago. Players are nuts about their equipment. He has sent back numerous sticks to Bauer, Easton, and Warrior that say Geno on them. When Easton was making up is RS sticks last season he was using a Bauer Total One with Geno on it and when his Easton sticks came in he stopped using them Bauers, sent them back and gave a bunch away. He is really particular about all of his gear. So much that his new batch of RS, and RBK RBZ sticks all say Malkin 71 now. But I mean being players have these forms they fill out for stick weight, length, grip, finish, 1 piece, 2 piece, curve position, depth, length, round toe, square toe, lie...and he asks for all of that then spells his ID plate GINO...must mean he spells it Geno. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.150.2.29 (talk) 15:00, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Five Point Games
editMalkin got 5 points today as well, in a game against the Winnipeg Jets. One goal and four assists, should someone add this to the bottom of his Playing Career section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.170.235 (talk) 00:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Statistics are supposed to be updated at season's end, since they can change after every game.Echoedmyron (talk) 23:57, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
New contract
edit8 years, $76 million. [7] 130.49.235.177 (talk) 14:39, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
"Weight 195 lb (88 kg; 13 st 13 lb)"
editActually 96kg.87.249.199.168 (talk) 11:41, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Different Spellings for Evgeni (Evgeniy Malkin) Malkin.
editI think that when one should type the literal Russian spelling of his name, Evgeniy, (which is a different spelling of his name) Evgeniy Malkin, that it should redirect to the page on Evgeniy Malkin. Lots of people from Russian spell Evgeniy (Yevgeni or Evgeni) Evgeniy and I think that Wikipedia should recognize this.
- Added a redirect. In the future, you can simply create a redirect yourself by going to the page you want (so Evgeniy Malkin in this case), and adding #REDIRECT [[Evgeni Malkin]] (or whatever page you want). Kaiser matias (talk) 03:13, 4 November 2017 (UTC)