Talk:Everybody (Madonna song)

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"Everybody" edit

Could somebody, once and for all please clarify the actual release date of this single in the United States. April 24 must be wrong because - in 1982, April 24 was a Saturday. October 6 is also wrong because - in 1982, October 6 was in fact a Wednesday. Isn't the standard release date in the USA Tuesday? Can we please have citation for a least the correct month? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janged (talkcontribs) 15:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Madonna.Com says that Everyody was relesed on April 24, 1982. It might not have been the commercial release date but it should be mentionned in the article since it's her first single. Good piece of information for an encyclopedia. Israell (talk) 22:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Celebrating 25 Years Of "Everybody!!!" Celebrating 25 Years Of "Everybody!!!" Celebrating 25 Years Of "Everybody!!!" Posted: 23 April 2007

It may seem like only yesterday but 25 years ago on April 24, 1982, Sire Records honcho Seymour Stein released a single called "EVERYBODY" on Warner Bros. Records by an unknown singer from Rochester, Michigan by the name of Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone. To say the world would never be the same is an understatement. The song went on to become a huge dancefloor hit and was heard all over the radio in the Summer of 1982. That little girl from Michigan would go on to become one of the most famous entertainers and cultural icons in history - selling close to 200 million records and remaining a star of enormous magnitude and influence for the next 25 years. She's just getting started. Long Live the Queen and Happy Anniversary to Madonna.

Liz Rosenberg[1]

References

  1. ^ Rosenberg, Liz (April 23, 2007). "Celebrating 25 Years Of "Everybody!!!"". MadgeTribe. (originally published at Madonna.com). {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Israell (talkcontribs) 22:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Everybody (Release Date) edit

Even though the release date of April 24, 1982 comes from Liz Rosenberg in a 2007 statement, it is actually incorrect information.

Depending on the source, Madonna was either signed to Sire/Warner in April, 1982 - or more likely July, 1982 if these collectors items are indeed authentic: http://oi51.tinypic.com/2uf979y.jpg. So how could it be recorded and released to radio in April, 1982? Everybody was released in October, 1982 and hit #7 on Billboard's Bubbling Under charts in the December 25, 1982 issue of Billboard. It peaked at #3 on the Billboard's Dance/Club Play chart on January 8th, 1983. Burning Up/Physical Attraction was released as her 2nd single in March, 1983. Considering the pacing of her single releases during this era, it is not logical that she would have had a year gap between the release of her first and second singles.

It had always been reported that Everybody was released in October, 1982 until Liz's erroneous 2007 statement. Madonna.com's information on the single shows the October release date (http://www.madonna.com/discography/index/album/albumId/33/). Madonna appeared on her first magazine cover (Island Magzine) in October, 1982 to coincide with the release.

Here is Everybody's chart trajectory:

BUBBLING UNDER HOT 100 SINGLES Debut Date: December 25, 1982 Peak Date: January 22, 1983 Peak Position: # 7 Week-by-week Rundown: 9-9-9-10-7-7-7-10-// (8 weeks total) Final Week on Chart: February 12, 1983

HOT DANCE MUSIC / CLUB PLAY Debut Date: November 6, 1982 Peak Date: January 8, 1983 Peak Position: #3 Week-by-week Rundown: 40-20-10-8-8-7-5-4-4-3-3-3-19-37-47-58-71-// (17 weeks total) Final Week on Chart: February 26, 1983 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicboy19 (talkcontribs) 23:58, 24 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

What Ms. Rosenberg meant is 'Everybody' was released to radio stations on April 24th 1982. She specified the song was heard on radio stations throughout the summer of 1982. The single was then commercially released in the fall in October 1982. I think a statement by Madonna's own publicist with such a specific date can be taken seriously. Israell (talk) 01:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

I would like to agree with you but mistakes do happen, even with publicists. If it was on radio throughout the summer of 1982 it makes little sense that Warner would wait six months to release the single commercially, nor that it would take until November to debut on Billboard's Club chart. The only source claiming it was released in April of 1982 is Liz Rosenberg's 2007 statement on Madonna.com but the same official website currently states that it was released in October, 1982. This release date is the logical one if you look at the Billboard stats and there are no pre-2007 mentions anywhere of it being released to radio in April, 1982. The 7" vinyl promo (which would have been distribtued to radio) has a catalogue number of 7-29841 (http://www.discogs.com/Madonna-Everybody/release/2731237). The next chronological catalogue number in the series that comes up on Google is 7-29843 which is the Warner release "All Right" by Christopher Cross which was also released in late 1982/early 1983 (http://www.discogs.com/Christopher-Cross-All-Right/master/118843 & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Right). If Warner had assigned these two catalogue numbers in April, 1982 why would they wait over six months to release both of these unrelated pressings? The April release date is simply not logical either promotionally or commercially.

--Sonicboy19 (talk) 05:33, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

The Quietus review edit

Leaving it here for expansion. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 11:59, 21 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Genre edit

I have done some research, and the song 'Everybody' is dance-pop but also post-disco. It's a song I've listened to many times, and it sure does have a strong disco feel to it, it's undeniable.

Now, when it comes to sources, here's some of what I found:

The contract with Sire guaranteed just one single, but it had options for recording albums as well. With Kamins producing, Madonna cut the moody disco track "Everybody" as her debut single. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-best-albums-of-the-eighties-20110418/madonna-madonna-20110324

However the early 80′s marked a shift in pop music. Along with Michael Jackson’s Thriller and Off The Wall, and Prince’s 1999and Purple Rain, and Cyndi Lauper’s debut She’s So Unusual, Madonna’s mix of post disco dance, R&B, new wave, rock and early electro helped open a new musical category for artists, resurrecting dance music from its disco graveyard while creating a template virtually every modern pop star, both male and female, has drawn from. http://truthaboutmusic.com/indiesandtheunderground/2013/07/27/holiday-celebrate-madonnas-first-album-turns-30/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-disco#1980s:_Golden_age

"Everybody" celebrates its 25th anniversary (April 24). Fudging only a minor date, Madonna's reps trumpeted the birthday of M's first single, the post-disco club hit "Everybody." While never cracking the Billboard Top 100, the tune ushered in the new pop singer, a singer whom early listeners had presumed was African-American. Her image was clarified in the rudimentary "Everybody" video (her first), shot at Paradise Garage, the New York City dancehall that Madonna frequented and, in fact, had been the first venue to play the "Everybody" demo, part of a small compilation that secured her a recording deal. http://madgeiclife.blogspot.ca/2007/12/top-ten-madonna-moments-of-2007.html

The last quote comes from a fansite (though it doesn't invalidate the information), but the first comes from a reputed source, Rolling Stone Magazine. Israell (talk) 01:30, 23 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

This potential cultural appropriation seems like an important topic to clarify in the article. I noticed that many of the clauses have been reversed in a way that doesn't make any sense, for example: For the cover of the single, Sire Records portrayed a hip-hop collage of downtown New York, rather than a portrait shot of Madonna, further perpetuating the notion that Madonna was not African-American. Surely this sentence should read "further perpetuating the notion that Madonna was African-American"?
The reversals all come from recent edits by an IP editor, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Everybody_(Madonna_song)&type=revision&diff=913065466&oldid=910715917&diffmode=source Adamw (talk) 06:57, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
I've undone the changes. Adamw (talk) 07:09, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

REFS edit

--Apoxyomenus (talk) 03:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Original Demo Tape edit

The article states that Madonna's original demo tape with "Everybody" that she recorded with Stephen Bray had three songs. That information is cited to "Madonna: The Complete Guide to her Music" by Rikky Rooksby. In the book, he states that the other two songs on the demo were "Ain't No Big Deal" and "Burning Up." However, I think this is probably incorrect. Stephen Bray released these recordings in the late '90s on the collections "Pre-Madonna" and "In the Beginning." In the liner notes for both collections, Bray clearly states that the demo tape had 4 songs (not 3) and they were, in order, 1) "Ain't No Big Deal", 2) "Everybody", 3) "Don't You Know?" and 4) "Stay". Given that Bray is the one who recorded these songs with Madonna, this should be considered a more authoritative source than Rooksby's book. Ww adh77 (talk) 12:56, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply