Talk:Elizabeth Stuart (daughter of Charles I)

image description

the description for Image:Pss Eliz.jpg is "Princess of England" but there are two girls in the image. Which is she? Kingturtle (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

She is in fact a he, :) And he's Henry Stuart, Duke of Gloucester, the youngest of Charles I's sons. The two were extremely close in age, and to each other, and they shared their exile together. I'll pop a note into the description. PeterSymonds (talk) 20:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Princess?

I disagree with the current title of the article. It's common knowledge that [younger] daughters of English monarchs were not automatically or traditionally called a prince or princess. This practice was established in 1714 by King George I. It's more likely that she was styled [The] Lady Elizabeth. Therefore I suggest Elizabeth of England and Scotland, or Elizabeth Stuart (since her aunt is called Elizabeth of Bohemia anyway). Surtsicna (talk) 10:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

However, the conventions currently prescribe "Princess X of Y", so this page ought to be at Princess Elizabeth of England, at least until such time as the conventions are successfully challenged/amended. That is the course of action I recommend. DBD 16:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Possible typo

"The plaque marking the sculpture reads: "To the memory of The Princess Elizabeth, daughter of King Charles I, who died at Carisbrooke Castle on September 8, 1630.." Is this a typo or did Marochetti really plough up?212.226.72.99 (talk) 22:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I was curious about the memorial on the Isle of Wight. I'm sure if there were an image to use someone would've unearthed it by now, but is there any harm to dropping in the link to the search results for it, so other curious people can have a look? http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=memorial+isle+of+wight+princess+elizabeth&FORM=HDRSC2 ScarletRibbons (talk) 07:32, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Title change unnecessary

What's the point in renaming this article with the very unwieldy title? It should be moved back to Elizabeth of England or Princess Elizabeth of England. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 03:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

She was not "Princess Elizabeth of England", and Elizabeth of England is too ambiguous. Surtsicna (talk) 10:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Cause of death: Pneumonia or Tuberculosis?

What is the cause of death? In the article 'pneumonia' is named (without a source). In this source: National Galleries Source, which is also used for the article of her sister Anne it's tuberculosis. What is correct? VINCENZO1492 18:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Probably both. She had tuberculosis, which probably weakened her and made it harder for her to recover from the pneumonia. That's based on the various bios I've read on the family, none of which I have time to dig out and look for a reference. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 23:39, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 3 September 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

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Elizabeth Stuart (daughter of Charles I) → Elizabeth Stuart (born 1635) – I am requesting this to comply with WP:NCPDAB. The disambiguator that is used for the article is not normally used as a disambiguator. If you need regarding the proposed title's usage, it says Years of birth and death are not normally used as disambiguators (readers are more likely to be seeking this information than to already know it), although this may be necessary when there are multiple people with the same name and tag. Where the disambiguation can't be resolved in a straightforward manner by such more specific qualifiers, e.g. for the two notable poker players called David Baker, date of birth can be added in this format: Name (qualifier, born YYYY). A comma should be used, and born should not be abbreviated to b., so: Charles Hawtrey (actor, born 1858) and Charles Hawtrey (actor, born 1914). I hope this helps. Interstellarity (talk) 11:24, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. The proposed parenthetical qualifier is less informative that the current one, although I would support Elizabeth Stuart, daughter of Charles I in the manner of Ælfthryth, wife of Edgar or Joanna, wife of Chuza. There are nevertheless other headers with qualifiers that indicate family relationships, such as Anne of York (daughter of Edward IV), Julia Drusilla (daughter of Caligula), Julia (daughter of Caesar), Cornelia (wife of Caesar), Julia Major (sister of Caesar), Julia Minor (sister of Caesar), Julia (mother of Mark Antony), Julia (wife of Marius), Julia (wife of Sulla), Wang Yi (wife of Zhao Ang), Ayşe Sultan (wife of Murad IV) or Anne Hathaway (wife of Shakespeare). Thus, WP:OTHERSTUFF does exist. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:15, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose She is better known as the daughter of Charles I than being born in 1635. Proposal doesn't comply with cited WP:NCPDAB, which recommends against dates of birth if there is a more straightforward way of disambiguation. And "(daughter of Charles I)" is more straightforward. Heck, that's really all she's known for. Walrasiad (talk) 04:34, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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When was she baptized?

The article says, "Elizabeth was born on 28 December 1635 at St James's Palace and was baptized there on 2 January the next year," but the year did not, in that century, break until 25 March. Was she "baptized there five days later, on 2 January," as I propose, or was she actually baptized when she was a year old? J S Ayer (talk) 04:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)