Talk:Donetsk People's Republic

Latest comment: 8 days ago by 14.139.176.131 in topic Mistake in religious breakdown pie chart

Table edit

@Mzajac, Mellk, and Rsk6400: template is not reserved for legitimate rulers. Panam2014 (talk) 16:02, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Are you arguing for including a table? Mellk (talk) 16:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Mellk: yes. Panam2014 (talk) 16:58, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Panam2014, that something is not forbidden doesn't mean that it is advisable. There was a delete discussion that led to merging the article "Head of the Donetsk People's Republic" into this one. One of the arguments was that the subject's notability is dubious. And that's one of the reasons why I think presenting the "Heads" with photographs is WP:UNDUE: It gives too much prominence to those "Heads". The other reason is that while the template looks fine at the end of an article like Head of the Republic of Ingushetia, it looks unesthetic here (at least to my eyes). Returning to status quo, since we didn't reach consensus yet. Rsk6400 (talk) 17:55, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
The result was to merge to this article, and it used a table. Mellk (talk) 17:57, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
The current version has been stable since April 10, that's nearly two and a half months. Rsk6400 (talk) 18:27, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, but you do not have a veto. Mellk (talk) 18:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Of course not, we have to find a consensus, and for finding a consensus every editor should give their reasons. I didn't see your reasons yet. Rsk6400 (talk) 18:31, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
The table is used to organize the data. Adding a table for undisputed information is useful. Mellk (talk) 18:37, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just took a look at both versions: Apart from what I said above, I also think that the table is confusing for the reader (because of the different colours, because of the empty space between the lines that is caused by the pictures). Rsk6400 (talk) 19:42, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I think it looks just fine. There is a consensus regarding their notability - otherwise article about them would not have existed on Wikipedia. Alaexis¿question? 20:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
We already use tables for dictators like List of heads of state of the Soviet Union and for rulers of unrecognized states such as President of Artsakh. Panam2014 (talk) 21:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Alaexis: As I pointed out before, the current version has been stable for nearly two and a half months, it has been restored by two editors (myself and another one), so I don't see a reason why you didn't follow WP:NOCONSENSUS. Moreover, your edit summary was wrong: I explained why the table is not WP:DUE here on the talk page. I didn't say they are not notable, but that their notability is dubious, and the fact that their article was merged into this one is a not very convincing demonstration of their notability. Finally, the table is partly unsourced, i.e. the numbering scheme excludes an "Acting Head" and we don't have any reference for the way RS assign numbers to those "Heads". I never read "Pushilin, the 2nd Head of the DPR" in any source. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:59, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

My point is that the heads themselves are notable. The articles about them have existed for years and no one has challenged it. If the problem is with the numbering we can remove it. Alaexis¿question? 08:37, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Well, but their office is not notable enough to be given the visual prominence that comes with the table and the pictures. Panam2014, the problem is not that they lack democratic legitimacy, but that their office is not given much prominence by RS. Rsk6400 (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Area edit

Just a random geography fan, I've reverted your edits since the BBC country profile you added doesn't contain the area of DPR. Please feel free to add the area back with proper sourcing. Alaexis¿question? 08:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 February 2024 edit

Territorial control of Avdiivka should be changed to Russia as Ukraine announced withdrawal Khrom3ium (talk) 03:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Already done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 19:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mistake in religious breakdown pie chart edit

The colors used in the legend is mismatched with the colors shown on the pie chart. 14.139.176.131 (talk) 19:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply