Talk:Dickshooter

Removing sourced piece

This sourced piece was removed from the article as "nonsense". Well, IMO it is one funny piece, and does provide some information. It is sourced by this online book page 58.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:49, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I completely agree with the removal. 'It's funny' isn't a reason to put unrelated information into an article, even if it can be sourced to a bad joke in a book. --Onorem♠Dil 03:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, unlike e.g. Fucking or Intercourse (where tourists like to steal the signs), the connection between Dickshooter and Dick the Shooter has little relevance to the town itself, sourced joke or not. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 04:44, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

This info in the article could have been used to make a good April Fools' Day DYK hook, like for example:

did you know that...Dickshooter is not connected to Dick Cheney shooting incident? --Mbz1 (talk) 05:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't do much to change my opinion. Adding useless information into the article so that it might be used as a DYK in 11 3/4 months just doesn't make sense to me. --Onorem♠Dil 05:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, the thing is that I believe that any information, which could make one smile is not useless per say, but anyway I withdraw my request.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

None of amusing parts would have occurred if Dick Shooter had gone by the name 'Richard'. Brumak (talk) 05:46, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Removing sections on nearby places of interest

This information is sourced by this source. It is an encyclopedic information that could be used by the visitors to this area. You could add how many hours there are to drive between those places, but there's no reason to remove it from the article altogether. Please discuss before doing major changes.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 12:59, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

• The article was a mess when I found it last night. Full of promotional, flowery language reading like a chamber of commerce guide and having tons of irrelevant info on oter place far away, I spent an hour cleaning it up. Do not rever my edits in a wholesale manner again. Cbl62

I spent much more time writing it. Please see wp:brd. I mostly used government sites to add info, how it could be promotional? If you have problems with language, please fix it, but why to remove sourced info? --Mbz1 (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

After the second revert of all of my edits, this article is now an absolute mess. Dickshooter is a U6 Census code location in a remote Idaho wilderness area, and I can find no record of it having any population. The only coverage of the place is its occasional inclusion on a list of funny place names. Presumably in order to meet the 1500 byte requirement for DYK, and due to the paucity of information that is actually about Dickshooter, the article's creator has included multiple subsections summarizing the positive attributes of OTHER tourist destinations in Idaho. Most of these OTHER destinations discussed in the article are not even geographically close to Dickshooter -- three to four hours drive. These sections have no relevance to an article about Dickshooter (except possibly to add bulk to meet the 1500 byte requirement for a pending nomination to have this article featured on the main page in DYK). I spent over an hour last night trying to fix/improve the article. I removed the flowery, Chamber of Commerce, tour guide style language (examples of which include "Dickshooter is an ideal place...", surrounding area inhabited by "magnificent birds of prey"). I also omitted the completely irrelevant sections discussing OTHER Idaho destinations at geographically remote distances from Dickshooter. For example, Jump Creek Canyon is located near Marsing, Idaho -- about a four hour drive from Dickshooter. Similarly, C. J. Strike Reservoir, Bruneau Dunes State Park, and Silver City are all 3-4 hour drive distance from Dickshooter. The one site that does appear to be local and relevant is Dickshooter Creek, which I not only left in the article but enhanced with links to the article on the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System. Even those edits were reverted. Sheesh. Finally, I am not familiar with the main source for this article, the "Interent Accuracy Project." Can someone please confirm whether or not this is a reliable source? This is supposed to be an enyclopedia article about Dickshooter, not a generic Chamber of Commerce piece promoting tourism in all of southwest Idaho. The wholesale reverting of my efforts is quite disappointing. We are supposed to be creating an encyclopedia here. Cbl62 (talk) 17:26, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

In addition to the content removed by Cb162 and myself, I've also removed Dickshooter Creek and Dickshooter Ridge. Despite having the same name, they are an hour's drive away from the town which is the subject of the article. If you want to create an article about Dick Shooter that lists things named after him, or separate articles on different things called Dickshooter, that's all very well, but don't stick in "places of interest" that are nowhere near the town in order to pad out the article. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Could you please link to the cite that indicates how far away this places are from each other?--Mbz1 (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I looked it up on Google Maps - can you provide a cite that says it's a place of interest in or near the town? (Besides Internet Accuracy Project, which also lists places that are four hours' drive away as nearby places of interest and is thus somewhat less than good at determining what is nearby.) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

There are only 15.7 miles between Dickshooter and Dickshooter creek, but because of the roads the ride takes 58 minutes. 15.7 miles is close enough, and yes, I provided the source that links those together, as well as the external link does. In any case I renamed the article, so the question is resolved.Please discuss before making major changes to the article. --Mbz1 (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Sources

I'm seeing several news sources talking about Dickshooter's ridge in Google News. Most of them are pay-walled, but it looks like it might have been a bone of contention between hunters and Native Americans. And the Air Force may have been active in the area, as well. Perhaps the article could be enlarged a bit? Qrsdogg (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Could you please provide the links, if it will not make you fired of course:-) Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

These are the four articles, the two sentence previews on the google news search showed that they mention Dickshooter:[1][2][3][4]. Hopefully there is enough in them to add a paragraph or two. Qrsdogg (talk) 19:08, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Air force did bomb the village, or just planned to?

The source for the text that the USAF used the village for bombing exercises says that it was proposed, but not implemented: "We helped defeat three separate huge Air Force bombing range proposals. Dickshooter Ridge, once destined to be an ìenemy villageî with live bombs being dropped, is now proposed for thousands of acres of cow-free wilderness, prime habitat for sage grouse and bighorn sheep. All of these activities helped build public demand to preserve the wild Owyhee country." This wording might need to be changed if no other sources corroborate the actual bombing. The Interior (Talk) 21:32, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment, you are right, and I am going to change the article accordingly. --Mbz1 (talk) 22:06, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The name of the article

Should it be Dickshooter, Idaho or Dickshooter?--Mbz1 (talk) 23:06, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

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