Talk:Demeanor (song)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Kyle Peake in topic GA Review
Good articleDemeanor (song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 18, 2021Good article nomineeListed

GA nomination edit

Since the main user behind this article has unfortunately been blocked, to whoever's doing the GA review, I can respond to suggestions from the review to help improve the article if needed. Just putting this here to make it clear it's not abandoned, would love to see this become a GA! --LivelyRatification (talk) 01:00, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@LivelyRatification: Oh no :( If you want, you can remove the GA tag entirely and renominate the article yourself. That way, you get notified when the nomination gets picked up, and Shoot for the Stars' talk page doesn't get cluttered with notifications. You can learn how to do this at WP:GAI. Thank you for taking initiative! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 02:35, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the help! I'll do that now. --LivelyRatification (talk) 03:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 12:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Demeanor (song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)Reply


Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

Marks a change to see Pop Smoke in the noms queue again; I'll give this one a shot! --K. Peake 08:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead edit

  • Quad → Quad Recording in the infobox
  • Pipe disco-pop to Disco
  • WP:OVERLINK of Pop Smoke under songwriters
  • Link to the lyric video in here; take "All Mine" for example
  • "Pop Smoke featuring English singer Dua Lipa." → "Pop Smoke, featuring English singer Dua Lipa from the former's..." mentioning the album here instead and adding a comma before its title
  • Writing/production sentence should be the second one of this para
  • "The song was released to" → "It was released to" and mention the labels after the United States
  • "lead single from Pop Smoke's posthumous second studio album Faith (2021)." → "lead single from the album."
  • "Sarah Hudson and" → "Sarah Hudson, and"
  • ""Demeanor" features the use of a baseline" → "it features a bassline" with the wikilink and make this the last sentence of the first para
  • Wikilink funky
  • "groove and bounce, woozy vibes," → "groove, and bounce, alongside rhythmic" with the pipe; only the verses are notable for the lead
  • "In the song," → "On "Demeanor","
  • "Lipa gets her own verse and pays tribute to the late rapper." → "Lipa pays tribute to him in her verse."
  • "Commercially, the song reached" → "Commercially, it reached" to avoid overusage of "the song"
  • "within the top 45 of charts in" → "within the top 50 in" but the countries should be alphabetical and add Canada
  • "white doves flying around in the painting." → "showing white doves flying around."
  • "and dances throughout the visual." → "and dances throughout."

Background and release edit

  • Remove English singer introduction to Dua Lipa, as this being in the lead is sufficient
  • "teased that she would be featured on American rapper Pop Smoke's" → "teased a collaboration with Pop Smoke" removing the album per the source
  • Start a new sentence with something like "She accompanied the video with the caption" since it is too long right now
  • "in all caps along with" → "in all caps, along with"
  • "Six days later, the album's track listing was revealed," → "The track listing for Faith was later revealed on July 15, 2021,"
  • The writing/production sentence should be the last of the first para instead, as release info belongs at the end
  • The first sentence of the second para would be more accurate to say that Pop Smoke's second posthumous studio album Faith was released via the labels, including the song as the sixteenth track
  • "Sarah Hudson and" → "Sarah Hudson, and"

Music and lyrics edit

  • Audio sample looks good!
  • [1] is redundant since it does not mention any genre specifically for this song
  • "features use of a bassline," → "features a bassline," with the wikilink
  • "groove and bounce, woozy" → "groove, and bounce, accompanied by "woozy""
  • "For The Ringer," → "Writing for The Ringer,"
  • "Pop Smoke sings about" → "Pop Smoke raps about"
  • "In the song," → "On the song,"
  • "The rapper also sings" → "In connection with the slang, the rapper sings"
  • "gets her own verse," → "has her own verse,"
  • [12] should solely be after the comma

Critical reception edit

  • "he noted she "stumbles out" during the line:" → "she "stumbles out" during the couplet:"
  • "Writing for HipHopDX, Anthony Malone" → "In HipHopDX, Anthony Malone"
  • "writing for NME thought" → "for NME, thought"
  • "She opined with a" → "She opined that with a"
  • "in the whole album." → "on Faith."
  • "the song had" → "the song has"
  • "She concluded by" → "Pierre concluded by"
  • Remove wikilink on Rolling Stone
  • ""sleazy", and said it was one of the albums" → ""sleazy" and said it is one of the album's"
  • "for the appearance of Lipa on the song." → "by Lipa's appearance."
  • "as viewed the song" → "viewed the song"

Commercial performance edit

  • "chart,[29] number 28" → "chart,[29] and number 28" ending the sentence at the Mainstream Top 40, as charts are ordered geographically so Global 200 should be at the very end of the section
  • "the song debuted and reached it's peak of" → "the song debuted at" plus you need the chart histories of these two artists to back up the top 40 stats
  • Remove Portugal and Switzerland because positions below the top 100 are not notable

Music video edit

Background edit

  • "on her social media," → "on the platform,"
  • "was released on Pop Smoke's YouTube channel" → "was released to YouTube"

Analysis and synopsis edit

  • Img looks good!
  • "takes place during the" → "is set in the"
  • Wikilink Age of Enlightenment
  • Where are the vintage and VRAM ring parts sourced?
The Nylon source - "wearing a vintage corset piece from Jean Paul Gaultier’s Spring 1998 couture collection, as hinted by stylist Lorenzo Possoco on Instagram, and Vram jewelry." --LivelyRatification (talk) 00:37, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "couture collection[47][46][48] with" → "couture collection,[46][48] with" since [47] should be solely at the end of the sentence
  • "of her head[46][50][51]" → "of her head,[50][51]" with [46] being solely at the end of the sentence
  • "petticoats, ruffled sleeves" → "petticoats, and ruffled sleeves"
  • "and are seen" → "with them being seen"
  • "which comes to" → "with a painting coming to" or something similar, to be specific
  • What is the use of [41] in the sentence about the painting's depictions?
  • Remove wikilink on Rolling Stone
  • "is mimicking Italian artist" → "mimics Italian artist"
  • "is then seen as a" → "is later seen as a"
  • "a table rapping" → "a table, rapping"
  • "Lipa who is seen descending down a" → "Lipa, who is seen descending a"
  • "in the festivities and performs" → "in the festivities, including performing"
  • "and all give an" → "and all provide an"

Critical reception edit

  • "Writing for Allure, Sara Miranda" → "For Allure, Sara Miranda"
  • "Lipa wore are" → "worn by Lipa are" since the video still exists
  • Pipe Vulture to Vulture.com per MOS:LINK2SECT
  • "when she crashes" → "[by crashing]" for correct paraphrasing
  • "HipHopDX Michael Saponara" → "HipHopDX writer Michael Saponara"

Credits and personnel edit

  • Studio locationsRecording
  • Should the credits list as assistant mixing and mastering or assistant mixing, mastering?

Charts edit

  • Good

Release history edit

  • Label → Label(s)

References edit

  • Copyvio score looks solid at 21.3%!!!
  • Nice job with the archiving here
  • Remove or replace ref 2 per discussion
  • Cite Revolt as publisher instead on ref 8
  • Mark refs 10, 13 and 56 with url-access limited
  • Cite Uproxx as publisher instead on refs 12 and 15
  • Cite CNN as publisher instead on ref 17 and the middle name should be in the first name parameter after the actual first name
  • Pipe Vulture to Vulture.com on refs 18 and 54 per MOS:LINK2SECT
  • Cite MTV News as publisher instead on ref 52
  • Cite Refinery29 as publisher instead on ref 53

External links edit

  • Remove lyric video from here since it should be in the infobox

Final comments and verdict edit

  •   On hold after a nice quick review; waiting until everything is resolved! --K. Peake 13:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: All done! If there are any issues or anything I forgot, let me know. --LivelyRatification (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LivelyRatification: Most of this looks good now, but you need to swap the writing/production and release sentences in the lead, start the release one with "It was" and remove wikilink on Rolling Stone in the music video section - sorry about this point, I must have accidentally pressed enter too soon when typing remove. --K. Peake 07:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: Done. --LivelyRatification (talk) 07:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LivelyRatification: You still need to begin the third sentence with "It was released..." but nice job elsewise. --K. Peake 07:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: Oops, sorry, have done that! --LivelyRatification (talk) 07:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply
@LivelyRatification:  Pass now, no more issues as far as I can see! --K. Peake 07:38, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply