Talk:Deaths in February 2016

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Maurice White edit

You have two differing reports on the date of the death of Maurice White of Earth, Wind and Fire. One source lists his date of death as February 3; the other, February 4. As a result, he's on the list twice. Which is it? 108.8.43.24 (talk) 23:55, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

4 February. — Wyliepedia 00:12, 5 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
While some sites initially stated he died on Wednesday the 3rd (Rolling Stone CTV), others now say early Thursday morning (BBC LA Times).--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 00:17, 5 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

This should be clarified...If Mr. White died on the 4th (as a consensus of the sources I'm reading are saying), then it should be updated as such, unless the evidence says otherwise. Otherwise it will be quite confusing to a lot of people, and Wikipedia should be accurate.Swilliamrex (talk) 02:21, 5 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Being bold, and wishing to synchronise both the subject article death date and the death date shown in this article, I have moved Maurice from 3rd to 4th, requesting a rationale to be stated here if reverting my edit for any reason. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 14:03, 5 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Adding "death announced on this date" seems a further enhancement which should please everyone. Thanks to TDKR Chicago for that. Ref (chew)(do) 20:29, 5 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Raphael Schumacher edit

This Italian actor seems to have no notability other than the fact that he died. His four-sentence WP page is linked only from this page and from List of entertainers who died during a performance. It seems to me he should only be listed there, and/or perhaps on List of unusual deaths. A Google search for his name only seems to bring up articles regarding his death, nothing prior. Thoughts? Skudrafan1 (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Agree that he fails WP:NACTOR, but, until his page gets deleted and winds up being red linked here, tis better to list him and delete him at the required time than have edit wars or answer requests here. — Wyliepedia 02:17, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Gotcha. Skudrafan1 (talk) 14:14, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Article was deleted at author's request. WWGB (talk) 00:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

David Mirra but not Maurice White on main page for recent deaths? edit

Seriously? Come on folks... Paradise coyote (talk) 01:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Not within our control here. Main page mentions are nominated by random people and go through the voting process. — Wyliepedia 02:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
if you would be so kind as to provide the link to that nomination page... -thx...Paradise coyote (talk) 02:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Some information at Wikipedia:In_the_news#Recent_deaths_section. WWGB (talk) 03:37, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
White's nomination. — Wyliepedia 07:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Viola Beach edit

Am curious as to why the deaths of this indie pop band's members were removed from the main page for 13 February 2016. Their deaths are mentioned/covered in the "Viola Beach" entry (which has been rewritten since I first viewed it about 4 hours ago). 24.251.245.92 (talk) 01:46, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

This list is limited to notable individuals. While the band Viola Beach may be notable, the individual members have done nothing (eg solo releases) to be considered notable in their own right, as described at WP:MUSICBIO. Thus, they are ineligible for listing here. WWGB (talk) 02:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Aside from qualifying for the criteria: "Deaths of non-humans are reported here if they first have their own Wikipedia article;" each of them have also their own notability by simply dying much like Sandra Bland, Neda Agha-Soltan, and Peter Kassig. Adding to that them being musicians, they have twice notability. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 02:53, 15 February' 2016 (UTC)
None of the people you linked are listed in Deaths in 20nn. Just like the members of Viola Band, the circumstances of their death may be notable, but as individuals they are not. It's a long shot to consider band members to be "non-humans". WWGB (talk) 04:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Except Philthy Animal, maybe. Or drummers in general. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC) Reply
Ho ho. 86.113.174.106 (talk) 16:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC) Reply

Since it was the ENTIRE band, why not list it for at least the month?24.251.245.92 (talk) 00:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

See the answers above. It doesn't qualify, whatever the sad circumstances are. Crucially though, if there is no prospect of one or more of the individuals ever being given their own article in Wikipedia (and there patently isn't), then it shouldn't even be considered to place them on this page. Sentimentality is not an issue which exists here. 86.113.174.106 (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Scalia edit

Wasn't he verified as a heart attack? Rest in Peace. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:26, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

It's a little difficult to verify cause of death since no autopsy was performed and it was all word of mouth mostly based on what Scalia's doctor said was wrong (based on medical files) with the judge.24.251.245.92 (talk) 14:49, 19 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Elias P. Demetracopoulos edit

"Elias P. Demetracopoulos, 88, Greek journalist and activist, involved in the Watergate scandal." The article about him has no mention of Watergate. 2001:56A:F414:D300:1D13:993:2652:4551 (talk) 06:38, 21 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Watergate "encompass[es] an array of clandestine and often illegal activities undertaken by members of the Nixon administration." This includes what Demetracopoulos uncovered. — Wyliepedia 08:30, 22 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Jack Lindquist edit

How come absolutely no mention of his movie career in his entry? 70.190.214.167 (talk) 07:29, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Most likely because he only made "appearances" as an extra in films. If he had more substantial film roles, meaning noteable, we would list them. Not the case so far. — Wyliepedia 09:29, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

The roles must've "notable" enough to have "American child actor" as part of his Recent Deaths entry. But to not even have a sentence like - - -

He appeared in nearly thirty movies as a child actor.

to acknowledge that part of his life that probably had some kind of lasting impact? Even if the appearances were as an extra, look at the films --- like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington --- he was in. There are some rather important and classic movies in his acting portfolio. 70.190.214.167 (talk) 22:46, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

That's not how this list works, though. As it says at the top of the page, each entry only includes Name, age, country of citizenship at birth, subsequent country of citizenship (if applicable), reason for notability, cause of death (if known), and reference. "American child actor and theme park executive" is enough. Anyone who wants more specifics can click the link. Skudrafan1 (talk) 01:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

I apologize for not being "clear enough" when I used the term "entry" in my initial inquiry. By "entry," I was referring to his separate entry in Wikipedia, NOT the entry on the "Recent Deaths" page. It is his regular entry in Wikipedia that has ABSOLUTELY NO mention of his acting career. So, if the Recent Deaths link is clicked on in hope of finding out about his child acting career in his regular entry, anyone is out of luck; that's why I suggested a one-liner (if not a section of its own) ought to be inserted into his regular entry - - - I did not mean for any thing to be done to his "Recent Deaths" entry. Then again, there are several Recent Deaths entries where an actor has only one work listed for their career. Why should Lindquist's be any different? Or, by following "Skudrafan1"s reasoning, all those whose Recent Deaths entries only list one or two works for their careers, those listed works should be removed and "anyone who wants more specifics can click the link." 70.190.214.167 (talk) 14:46, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Another apology in reference to Lindquist's regular entry in Wikipedia. I do not remember seeing the acting info in the first paragraph of "Early years." Given the number of roles he had, I was expecting a separate section, not just a few line mention. Then again, looking at the "History" of Lindquist's page since his passing, it's possible that it was added after I first visited the page. I'm not tech savvy enough with Wikipedia stuff to find out what specific changes might've been done since I initially posted. In fact, my query on the Lindquist entry "Talk" page has not been responded to.70.190.214.167 (talk) 15:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Since you are the only one stumping for movie roles, I suggest you research these, register and add them to his page yourself. But again small roles do not get listed here. Those entries with only one film given were substantial roles. — Wyliepedia 09:53, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Josefin Nilsson edit

It is claimed that Josefin Nilsson died of tuberculosis. This sounds improbable, because tuberculosis is a very rare cause of death in Sweden (however, reports of small increases in incidence have recently circulated in Swedish media), and it is also not mentioned in the given source. KarlPettersson81 (talk) 08:06, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Someone has already fixed the entry. There is an autopsy underway and I will bet that they will find that is was an embolism caused by her recent hip surgery. Whether that was lost in translation, we can only conject upon. Sunnydoo (talk) 18:42, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sam Beall edit

The link for Sam Beall is a redirect to Blackberry Farm (Tennessee). It seems confusing and I was wondering if their is a rule regarding that? It seems like a person who meets notability guidelines for inclusion in the list would meet guidelines for their own article. Might it be advisable to remove the redirect and leave a redlink to encourage creation of an article? Klaun (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

As per the FAQ above and as stated on the main page, only animals are required to have their own articles to be included here. Beall was listed as a redlink and his redirect was created for possible future expansion, as some editors are known to do. Blackberry Farms is given with his entry to prevent "confusion" as he is mentioned in its article. As for his name redirecting here, it will be removed if no expansion is completed 30 days after its addition here. — Wyliepedia 09:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
The FAQ actually does not say anything about redirects. It only mentions redlinks. Which was why I was asking... Your response doesn't really make sense to me in the context of the FAQ. The FAQ states the reason for having redlinks in the list is to encourage people to create articles about the notable person who has died. If it points to a redirect it is no longer a redlink and won't encourage people to create an article. The policy and justification seems inconsistent with the action actually taken. Frankly, I found it confusing that the link pointed to an article about Blackberry Farms and it was not immediately apparent why. That's why I made a comment here. I think it would be helpful if the FAQ and the policy were consistent. If the FAQ is going to be updated with the policy as you describe it (linking to redirects) the justification for linking to people without an article of their own needs to be reworked. Klaun (talk) 23:04, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
The FAQ above clearly states "redlinks or redirects" and has been there long before this topic began. Redirects may be expanded and overridden with a notable encyclopedic article. At the moment, Beall's only claim to fame is assuming ownership of Blackberry Farm, and it is mentioned in the History section there, which is why it links from here and redirects. (Addendum: Here is Beall's bio at BF's website, as an example of weak notability that would result in the redirect being restored.)— Wyliepedia 07:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Yes, but the answer doesn't mention redirects at all. It's a bit confusing what the policy for the page is given the answer to the question which doesn't address half the question and as the justification for the redlinks portion of the question would seem to contradict allowing redirects. I'm not sure what the rest of your comment is getting at. Are you saying he is not notable? Then why include him on the list of deaths at all? Are there different levels of notability that on the one hand justifies inclusion in recent deaths list but on the other doesn't justify a wikipedia article? Is this documented somewhere in a policy or guideline. And note, I'm not just saying notability guidelines but different levels of notability that apply to different places. In any case, I think he seems pretty notable (not that I'd ever heard of him before I clicked on the recent deaths link) since a google search for his name returns a large number of results... far more than many others on this list. Also, I didn't say that he wasn't mentioned in the Blackberry Farms article... I just said it wasn't immediately apparent what his relation to that article was upon first glance; it's confusing. Also, I think the sentence mentioning his death in the Blackberry Farms article seems tacked on and out of place, The Waldorf-Astoria NY article for example doesn't make any mention of the founder's death though it discusses him several times in the history section. Klaun (talk) 21:32, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply


Lee Reherman - 20 February edit

Currently listed as:

Lee Reherman, 49, American actor (American Gladiators, Star Trek Into Darkness, Last Action Hero).[1]

I removed the latter two as his roles appear minor ("Uniformed Mercenary" for STID and "Krause", a small role, in LAH) but was reverted, without explanation, by Rusted AutoParts. As discussed above in the Jack Lundquist section, movie and television roles should be notable to be included here. Neither film page mentions Reherman's impact there, making his appearance not crucial to either. If so, we would list every redshirt that later died because they appeared in the ST series. Also, if these two listings are allowed, I will find a Lundquist cameo and list it here. — Wyliepedia 07:40, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Lundquist would be foolish to do, on IMDB all his acting credits went uncredited except for an old Our Gang short called Glove Taps. I added Into Darkness and Last Action Hero (despite being minimal to him, he did receive a credit for being in it) to satisfy role of three as some editors would prefer to list as many credits to give insight into the career they might've had. This is fairly straightforward for someone like Alan Rickman because it's rather easy to determine his most notable roles. On IMDB, Into Darkness and Last Action Hero are featured in his "Known For" section, so I figured, should we go with any additional credits to add to Rehrman, perhaps these two would be sufficient. Rusted AutoParts 22:00, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Dr. Thomas Rea -- need writeup edit

Excerpt from L.A. Times:

Dr. Thomas Rea, a dermatologist whose discoveries led to treatments that allowed patients with Hansen's disease — leprosy — to live without stigma, has died. He was 86.
Rea and his colleague Dr. Robert Modlin nailed down the precise role played by the immune system in Hansen's disease symptoms such as skin lesions and growths. The immune connection had long been suspected but never previously explained. http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-thomas-rea-20160305-story.html RaqiwasSushi (talk) 14:47, 7 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
This does not belong here, but it seems an article has been created. WWGB (talk) 23:09, 7 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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