Talk:Climate Change Act 2008

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why do i get redirected here, when i search for the US climate change bill? 92.230.32.208 (talk) 10:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Surely there must be some criticism for this bill! I've already heard a few interviews with some labour MP's who are against it (before anyone says it - no I'm not thinking about the rebels who are going to vote against nuclear reform) - TJ 17:00 GMT 14/03/07 {{subst:unsigned2}}

This article is one-sided, take for instance Jeremy Paxmans NewsNight interview with David Miliband of March 13 2007:

  • Miliband had to concede that earlier goals of 20% reduction in emissions by 2010 were not met
  • Miliband had to concede that the economy would be damaged
  • Miliband had to concede that 50% of emissions reductions can be purchased from poor developing countries
  • Miliband was unable to explain how the target of 60% in 2050 was reached (why not 80%)

V8rik 18:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

The article reflects what is known as of now. There is plenty of criticism mentioned - i.e. that the Bill doesn't go far enough. If you mean opposition to the Bill, there doesn't seem to be too much so far - though I'm sure that will change in due course.
I've just looked at the Web sites of all the political parties that fought the 2005 General election (except those with no external links) the only party opposing the Bill is UKIP. So far as I could identify, there are (as of today) no other obvious or clear statements in favour or against the Bill from any of the other parties, except some other views in favour which I've just added.
Re Paxman, which I didn't see:
  • Miliband had to concede that earlier goals of 20% reduction in emissions by 2010 were not met
That does seem likely to be the case. That seems to be one of the motivations for the other parties in supporting the Bill - so that the subject is taken more seriously, and so that the Government is held to account if targets aren't met.
  • Miliband had to concede that the economy would be damaged
Among the political parties, only UKIP seem to share this view. The CBI & TUC don't seem concerned by this.
  • Miliband had to concede that 50% of emissions reductions can be purchased from poor developing countries
The Bill talks about cutting emissions, not buying carbon credits, so not having seen the program I'm not sure how this fits into the picture.
  • Miliband was unable to explain how the target of 60% in 2050 was reached (why not 80%)
The Government accepted the 60% figure recommended in 2000 by the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution, as mentioned in the article. I guess Miliband didn't know that - or perhaps he couldn't explain why the Royal Commission recommended 60%? Will add something to the article to explain this one, as it's a key point.
Gralo 01:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Year linking edit

I have removed the wikilinks on years alone because this is in general not very useful and the article has many other more useful links, and it's best not to over link it. The manual of style on partial dates allows editors' discretion on this. If someone else thinks they really should be linked that's fine. Rich257 09:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Bill edit

There's a problem with the link regarding draft laws. The draft law page redirects to conscription (a misunderstanding of the term 'draft law') Guessmyname (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Changed to Bill (proposed law). Rich257 (talk) 16:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

The Bill is now an Act edit

This article needs a general update now the Bill has become an Act. The title should probably be changed to Climate Change Act but I don't know how to do this. Think it's useful to retain much of the history of how this ground-breaking legislation was developed, but the article should probably be restructured along the lines of what the Act is and how the Act came about. Happy to have a go at this but would appreciate some advice from more seasoned Wikipedians first. Energybeing (talk) 18:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've now renamed the article and done some updates, but there are quite a few other changes required to bring it all up to date, mainly tenses and other temporal aspects. Energybeing (talk) 19:10, 6 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Out of date information edit

I've add this label as some of the information in the later part of this article is no longer accurate. Please update it if you get a chance. Niel.Bowerman (talk) 20:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

I've added a paragraph to the end of the 'Lords Debate' section, and a paragraph titled 'Commons Debate' to describe the latter passage of the bill until it became law. If you think this is enough updating, perhaps the label can be removed. Peace Makes Plenty (talk) 18:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Requested move edit

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was NO CONSENSUS to move page to the proposed title, per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 07:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
United Kingdom Climate Change ActClimate change in the United Kingdom — No reason articulated. —harej (talk) 03:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose. Article is clearly about the act for which it is named, not about climate change in general (a topic which might be worthy of its own article). Dekimasuよ! 16:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose Although proposed article name is worthy of seperate article. YeshuaDavid (talk) 13:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose The article is about one specific law, not climate change in general in the UK. It should be re-named to "Climate Change Act (United Kingdom" or "Climate Change Act 2008" though. TJ Spyke 16:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
I'd support a change to "Climate Change Act", which redirects here and appears to be unambiguous. Dekimasuよ! 02:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
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Figure Lacks Units edit

The figure 'Countries by Carbon Dioxide Emissions' is useful in showing how the UK's emissions compare with those of the rest of the world. The numbers shown in the figure have no units, though, and I think they would be useful to indicate whether they refer to total emissions, emissions per head of population or some other measure. It would also be good to include units simply for completeness. Tpsreynolds (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

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