Talk:Church of the Intercession on the Nerl

Suggest to rename to the Church of Intercession upon Nerl and rephrase a bit:

Church of Intercession upon Nerl River ([Покрова на нерли, Pokrova na Nerli] Error: {{Lang-xx}}: text has italic markup (help)) is one of the best known in the world Russian churches. It is situated at the confluence of small Nerl River and Klyazma River in Bogolyubovo, near Vladimir. Listed among the UNESCO World Heritage Sites.

The church was built in 1165 of white stone, has one dome and four columns in the interior. The walls are covered with carvings. The church is dedicated to the Orthodox holiday of the Intercession of the Holy Virgin (Russian: Pokrov).

--Barbatus 17:00, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

• Please, do so, it would be nice. I don't really know how to call all these 'churches upon something'. But certainly your variant sounds better. Arseni 18:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Will do, Arseni. --Barbatus 18:19, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

I oppose the move besause: a) the rivernames are preceded by articles in English; b) because the Britannica 2004 and other reputable sources list the church as "Church of the Intercession on the Nerl". We discussed this issue upon KNewman's talk page back in July. --Ghirlandajo 18:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Also, by checking "What links here", you will discover some unfixed double redirects. --Ghirlandajo 19:37, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Comparisons

Whereas St Demetrius Cathedral has been compared to a warrior, the Intercession Church has been likened to a weeping mother.

Compared by whom/and or where? Incomplete. Truthseeker 85.5 15:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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The Church of the Intercession on the Nerl is a Russian Orthodox church situated at the confluence of the Nerl and the Klyazma in Bogolyubovo, Vladimir Oblast. It was commissioned by Andrey Bogolyubsky, a 12th-century Russian grand prince, and has been little altered since. The building is constructed in white stone, and has one dome and four columns in the interior. Its proportions are elongated on purpose to make its outline seem slenderer, although this architectural solution restricts its use in holding services. In 1992, the church was inscribed on the UNESCO World Heritage List as part of the White Monuments of Vladimir and Suzdal.

Photograph credit: Alexander Savin

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Ambiguity in 2nd paragraph

... it was built to commemorate Andrei's victory over the Bulgars and his son Izyaslav, who was slain in the battle....

I can parse this sentence two ways:

1. it was built to commemorate (Andrei's victory over the Bulgars) and (his son Izyaslav, who was slain in the battle)..., or
2. it was built to commemorate Andrei's victory over (the Bulgars and his son Izyaslav, who was slain in the battle)

The second parse would be correct if Izyaslav has revolted against his father and allied himself with the Bulgars, as sometimes happened in royal families.

If the first parse is intended, I suggest a slight rewording:

...it was built to commemorate both Andrei's victory over the Bulgars, and also his son Izyaslav, who was slain in the battle...

Weka511 (talk) 04:03, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

The first reading is indeed correct.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2021 (UTC)