Talk:Chandelier (song)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. We have a rough consensus that the shorter title is preferable. The primary objection was consistency with the main article. However, as was pointed out by Peter James, this needs to be balanced against what's more natural and recognizable for readers, and the majority of discussion participants favored "(Sia song)"; there may be other reasons the singer's article contains the last name, for instance for disambiguation. On the point of consistency, as was also pointed out, the move makes the title more consistent with other articles on songs by this artist, which tend to use "(Sia song)" when the artist name is needed. Cúchullain ^t/c 19:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

---

Chandelier (Sia Furler song) → Chandelier (Sia song) – She is always known monomynously Hadji87 (talk) 21:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)<

• Comment - categories, template and dabs appear to follow Sia Furler while Sia (singer) is only a redirect. However Category:Sia Furler songs shows a bit of variation. You've Changed (Sia song). Clap Your Hands (Sia song). WP:NCMUSIC In ictu oculi (talk) 23:15, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose for and until the main article Sia Furler is renamed for consistency.--Richhoncho (talk) 02:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose our article is located at "Sia Furler" -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
• Support because I take the view that the main article should be located at Sia (because it's the primary topic) or at least Sia (singer). Once this RM has finished a move request will be filed for that article.--Launchballer 16:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
• Support artist name should usually be consistent with the artist name used for the song, regardless of the title of the singer's article, this is more natural and probably more recognisable. Peter James (talk) 20:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
• Support per Peter James. Purple Rain (Prince (musician) song) wouldn't be right, would it? ^walk victor falk ^talk 05:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't think anyone would be arguing in favor of this being named Chandelier (Sia (singer) song), if the main article was at Sia (singer), though. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 14:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Star... you are right, I was merely pointing out that the move was inconsistent, and the disambig should reflect the article name space of the artist. I note Launchballer agrees with me, but I would have moved the artist first then the articles - at which point the reason for my opposition is removed. Hopefully this will all be resolved. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Right Here, Right Now (Fatboy Slim song) and Norman Cook - should one of those be moved? Peter James (talk) 15:37, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Different argument. If you had read my comment correctly you would have realised I am not really opposing the move - i just think the collars and cuffs should match. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I've only just noticed this. As to why this was moved first, read this exchange on Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars' talk page. Once this RM is over one will be created for the artist.--Launchballer 19:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose Furler is not always known mononymously, her last name is also used for songwriting and producing credits e.g. check infobox for songwriter(s) of this track. Furthermore the use of Sia (singer) as a disambiguation is also restrictive to Furler's wider career.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:31, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
  • If song articles have to be disambiguated it's by artist, not by writer, so it's more natural to use the name the artist used on it. Peter James (talk) 13:09, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
• Support. There's no need for the longer disambiguator, see the DAB at Sia, there are no other musicians listed. But I also note that the foreshadowed move of Sia Furler may run into trouble establishing an overall claim of primary meaning. Andrewa (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

---

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sia Furler /Sia (singer)/Sia (musician)

Attention all those that commented on the above RM.There is a second subsequent RM at Talk:Sia Furler which has a bearing on this RM. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Good article?

Resolved

This article went through Good article review? --Another Believer _(Talk) 14:41, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Are there any problems with it...? Simon (talk) 14:47, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah! Now I see the review link at the top of the article. I just normally keep an eye on GAN reviews for article in my watchlist, but this one flew under my radar and I could not find the review link at first. Just wanted to make sure the icon was not added mistakenly. Thanks! -Another Believer _(Talk) 15:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 2

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move per consensus. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 23:38, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

---

Chandelier (Sia song) → Chandelier (song) There is no other song article called "Chandelier". 2A02:C7D:564B:D300:E1E0:F98E:5AC5:EA5F (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Calidum ¤ 21:41, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. There is no reason to make the article title more ambiguous when there are other song topics at Chandelier (disambiguation). Chase (talk | contributions) 22:42, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Support per this discussion. Chase (talk | contributions) 19:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose per Chasewc91, As we have the disamb moving could possibly confuse people so oppose. –Davey2010^Talk 23:35, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support - I failed to check the disamb properly ... As there's no song of the title it makes sense to move it .... –Davey2010^Talk 19:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• Support - no other song called Chandelier. Unreal7 (talk) 19:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
• Support it's pointless to have extra qualifiers when this is the only song that warrants its own article. We can reasonably be WP:CONCISE here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:23, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
• Comment: This is likely not to be relevant due to the proposal receiving unanimous support as of now, but if significant opposition comes within the next few days, I would suggest the closing admin relist the discussion. The discussion was unavailable for a total of 59 hours due to an editor who repeatedly blanked this section (on the grounds that the IP who started this RM was being operated by an indefinitely blocked editor). Chase (talk | contributions) 19:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

---

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.