Talk:Chad

Requested move 22 September 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Early close due to WP:SNOW, near unanimous opposition. (non-admin closure) SnowFire (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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• Chad → Chad (country)
• Chad (disambiguation) → Chad
• Jordan → Jordan (country)
• Jordan (disambiguation) → Jordan

– These titles could refer to country or the name such as Chad (name) and Jordan (name). There doesn't appear to be a primary topic here. Interstellarity (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose I would say any current country's common English name trumps any other use barring very unusual circumstances (Georgia and Macedonia being two cases and English speakers outside the US might disagree on the first and think Georgia (country) should be Georgia). In these particular cases the first thing that comes to mind with Chad or Jordan are the respective countries. I can't think of anything that comes close with Chad the country and with Jordan only the Jordan River. Erp (talk) 02:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose: Thoroughly disagree. The names of these countries are overwhelming primary topics for their names, and there are huge consistency arguments to also consider here. WP:AINTBROKE. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Weak support I agree there isn't a clear primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:09, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose: Chad and Jordan are by far most commonly used for the country. ¹⁴¹Pr {contribs} 07:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. While I agree that the country isn't the first thing I think of when I hear the word "Chad", I think someone typing "Chad" into the Wikipedia search box is most likely to be looking for the country. I haven't bothered to look up the page view stats, but if a different article with the same title gets a similar number of views to the country article, then I'm open to changing my mind. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:48, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Not common names for people Chidgk1 (talk) 08:19, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Strong oppose. Chad and Jeremy are the music group. And hanging chad has to do with paper bits; and anything else is the country, which is primary. (edit conflict) Mathglot (talk) 08:23, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  Although a symptom of WP:RECENTISM with a downward trend, there is also Chad (slang). There's currently only a 3:1 pageview ratio between the country and the slang term (114,00 monthly versus 35,000 monthly). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

• Strong oppose. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:30, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose clearly the countries are the primary topics—blindlynx 14:02, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose moves. The countries are the primary topics. (Same goes for Turkey.) O.N.R. ^(talk) 19:23, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Strong oppose and SNOWCLOSE - The countries are undoubtedly primary by long-term significance, at the very least. The hatnotes should resolve confusion. estar8806 (talk) ★ 20:30, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.