Talk:Cartoon Network/Archive 4

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CN Real cancelled?

Is there a source for the claim that CN Real has been cancelled? As true as I want it to be, I haven't seen anything official about it anywhere. Kcowolf (talk) 02:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Fan-Made Logo

Someone put a fan-made logo which looks like the real one, but the "N" was different and the "CARTOON NETWORK" text was white, which can't be seen on a light background. I put back the real logo. Here's the fan-made logo:

File:File-CARTOON NETWORK logo.png

Thanks for the info. It's been reverted and the user who added it has been warned.

Well, actually, I'm pretty sure that isn't a fan made logo. I'm pretty sure I saw that logo on the channel Cartoon Network is on. I think that is Cartoon Network's new logo. --Hadger 22:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The differences are pretty subtle, but the logo here isn't the official logo. The N in the official logo isn't as pointy. It looks like this one is taken from the letters "C" and "N" of the original logo. Kcowolf (talk) 00:01, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Gallery section?

I've been thinking. The article probably needs a "Gallery" section for it's logos. Could it be used? --HIAW! :) (talk) (userboxes) 20:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, this is not a fan site. Jj98 (talk) 05:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Someone vandalised the "New Direction" section.--71.206.5.36 (talk) 16:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move, consensus is that the US channel is the primary topic. Taelus (Talk) 21:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

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Cartoon Network (United States) → Cartoon Network — This is a kids and animated orientated television channel. Cartoon Network (United States) should be moved to Cartoon Network. Also, Cartoon Network should be moved to Cartoon Network (disambiguation).Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:59, 24 July 2010 (UTC) Jj98 (talk) 00:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

• Support: I agree, it should be. Similar to how the Toon Disney article is set up.--ETLamborghini (talk) 00:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Hardly compares to Toon Disney. That has one other surviving channel, in Italy, using that name. Cartoon Network has 18 other international channels still using the name. No evidence of primary topic is given by the proposer, but it is clear that to most of the world, the American channel is not. Skinsmoke (talk) 03:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose the other Toon Disneys are no longer Toon Disneys according to the dab page. 76.66.193.119 (talk) 04:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. The article is only about the US channel as it stands. If it were renamed as proposed, then the scope of the article should be expanded to include all the other (related) channels internationally. Even in the USA, the phrase Cartoon Network would most naturally mean the whole of the network, not just the US channel of it; When someone in the US uses it to mean just the US channel, then either they are knowingly using it as a shortened name or they are unaware of the existence of the rest of the network, and either way, this usage shouldn't restrict the scope of our article by that name. However I'm not in favour of expanding this article. If we want an article on the whole of the network, it would be far better to expand the existing disambiguation page to be an overview article instead, and leave the details of the national channels, including the US channel, where they are. Andrewa (talk) 09:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support, clearly the primary topic, as the original and the basis for all of the other networks. Powers ^T 19:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
• Strong, Speedy Support, I agree, it should be a primary article just like it is. Jj98 (talk) 21:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

  Comment, You cannot make vote on a request you made. -- JSH-alive ^{talk • cont • mail} 14:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

• N.B. I reverted Jj98's close of this discussion as Move. I thought an uninvolved editor ought to judge consensus. Powers ^T 01:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment: Agree. For the proposer of an RM which has received the mix of support and oppose votes which this has to then close it as supported is just not on. Andrewa (talk) 17:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support The US network is clearly the primary topic. It seems odd that so many links to this page have to be piped to avoid the DAB page. TJRC (talk) 23:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support per above, in the US channel was the original and primary. CTJF83 chat 01:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)\
• Support. The American Cartoon Network is the original and primary network. The others spun off of it. sdornan (talk) 03:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support per TJRC's analysis below. --JaGa^talk 09:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support Per above. Gage (talk) 10:39, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
• Support Clearly the US article is the primary topic. Rename, with a hatnote pointing to the disambiguation page. Fortdj33 (talk) 15:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
• Support The US version of Cartoon Network seems to be the main channel, and if someone searches Cartoon Network, they are likely looking for the US channel. However, Cartoon Network (United States) shouldn't be deleted. It should just be a redirect to Cartoon Network. --Hadger 04:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
• Support per statistics below. Propaniac (talk) 14:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Some numbers

I took a look at some numbers, and I think they support the proposed move.

Number of views (June 2010)

• Cartoon Network, which redirects to Cartoon Network (disambiguation), had 58,785 views. It was ranked 7657 in terms of page views for the month.

• Cartoon Network (United States) had 63,917 views, which is a bit over 60% of all views of all the non-DAB pages. Put another way, this article had about 50% more view than all the other pages combined. The article ranked 6167 for the month.

• No other page other than these two had a sufficient number of views to be tracked for page ranking. Their page rank is negligible.

• The next-most popular pages are Australia (4962 views, 4.7%); India (4243 views, 4.0%); and UK/Ireland (4066 views, 3.95). It dwindles from there, down to France, which got only 389 views (0.4%).

Two things emerge for me from these numbers. First, overwhelmingly more readers are seeking out the US topic than any other; that is to say, the US page is the primary topic. Second, assuming that most of the 58,785 readers who arrived at the DAB page via the Cartoon Network redirect went on to one of the articles DABed from it, nearly all of those readers went to the US page. This suggests to me that the readers are not being well-served to have to go through the DAB page to get to the article they seek.

Incoming links

I checked to see how many incoming links each article had. I counted only links from the article space. A lot of links are generated by the {{Cartoon Network navbox}} template, which is transcluded into 87 pages. I accounted for that transclusion, which would otherwise skew the number of links (for example, Cartoon Network (France) has 94 links; but 87 of them are only present because the template is used in articles that have to do with Cartoon Network as a whole; only 7 links are deliberate links to the Cartoon Network (France) article).

• The US article has 558 incoming links. This is 27.2% of the total number of links for all of the regional articles. The next highest ones are: Australia (225, 11.0%), Europe (221, 10.8%) and Philippines (145, 7.1%). Put another way, the US article has about as many incoming links as the next three highest combined. This too, suggest to me that the US article is the primary topic.

• But here's the interesting thing: Cartoon Network, which redirects to the DAB page, has 1543 incoming links. There are 1543 articles that links to a DAB page rather than to a destination page. That's a disservice to our readers. Someone clicking on a highlighted term is supposed to go to the destination page, not a DAB page. But in this anomalous case, there are almost as many links to the DAB page (1543) as to all the regional articles combined (2052).

• An observation: Something is a little strange when two different popularity measures, the proportion of views (60.7%) and the proportion of links (27.2%) are so different from one another. But note, if those 1543 links to the DAB page went to the US page, the US page would have 2101 links out of a total of 3595; or about 58.4%. Note that this very closely approximates the 60.7% page views number. This suggest to me that the high number of links to the dab page is indeed because of erroneous linking; i.e., an editor linking to "[[Cartoon Network]]" on the assumption that that's the desired page, rather than investigating the destination, seeing the DAB page and piping with "[[Cartoon Network (United States)|Cartoon Network]]".

My conclusion

My conclusion is that analysis of both of these metrics point out:

1. Too many readers are driven to the DAB page when they want the US network page.
2. This happens either by entering "Cartoon Network" or by clicking through an erroneous wikilink.
3. By either measure, page views or internal links, the Cartoon Network (United States) article is the primary topic.

In sum, Cartoon Network (United States) should be moved to Cartoon Network, and point to Cartoon Network (disambiguation) via a hatnote such as {{about}}

TJRC (talk) 07:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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Some Things:

Number 1: The Slogans are Unnecesary and don`t have source, they have to be deleted. Number 2: There are many inrelevant blocks in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.247.122.35 (talk) 01:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

It's not just about cartoons

It's also a business. Why don't we have anything relating to its business practices? --74.73.95.226 (talk) 14:50, 24 August 2010 (UTC) Because there are no official sources on anything for business except for that Aq.THF bomb scare with the president resigning.--76.107.152.172 (talk) 02:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Hours of Operation on CN

I think that we, as Wikipedians, should list the current hours that Cartoon Network operates. For example, the time that Cartoon Network begins each day is 6:00 AM E.S.T. and switches to Adult Swim at 10:00 PM E.S.T. as of December 27, 2010. Metalme07(*70-103-110-1224j) (talk) 20:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

To archive

http://m.cartoonnetwork.com WhisperToMe (talk) 04:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Movie or Special?

I have a question. What makes a movie is a movie, and not a special episode? For example,The Powerpuff Girls: Twas the Fight Before Christmas is a movie, so why Billy and Mandy Save Christmas is a special? The Class of 3000: Home and The Secret Saturdays: The Kur Stone are the films, but The Class of 3000 Christmas Special and The Secret Saturdays: Kur aren't. How do I know that we are dealing with a film or a special episode? Dosblo (talk) 14:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

The Billy and Mandy Save Christmas and The Secret Saturdays: The Kur Stone are actually two part episodes and television special, not television movies. The Powerpuff Girls: Twas the Fight Before Christmas are direct to TV movie. There not listed at the Original made-for-TV movies section. JJ98 (Talk) 00:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Unknown Creators

Do you know who created The Moxy Show and Powerpuff Girls Z? 83.29.152.119 (talk) 13:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no, I can't find any mentioning creators the series. It is not even listed on IMDb and other sites. If the creator exists on each articles, its needs a reliable source per WP:RS and WP:V. JJ98 (Talk) 05:42, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Terra à vista

I found information about the show called Terra à vista. RocketWobbuffet wrote about this in talk: It aired in Brazil in 2000 to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the discovery of Brazil. It was a crossover series, including characters from Cow and Chicken, I Am Weasel, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Laboratory and The Powerpuff Girls. And here is part of the show on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0UT9NgIjfA. So is this a Cartoon Network original series or co-production? Egaruoc (talk) 19:14, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately no, that's not a co-production. Needs a source per WP:V and WP:N. YouTube is not a reliable source. JJ98 (Talk) 17:41, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Teen Titans

Cartoon Network took part in the production of Teen Titans. In the end credits of the show it says Executive Producer for Cartoon Network: Sam Register. So to be Teen Titans for the Cartoon Network original show / co-production? 83.29.132.25 (talk) 15:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Teen Titans is not a Cartoon Network original series. Cartoon Network does not own the show. Cartoon Network original series are series that are owned by Cartoon Network. Some are produced by Cartoon Network Studios, and some are not. Warner Brothers Entertainment owns Teen Titans, and Warner Brothers Animation is the producer, just like MAD, Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated, Batman the Brave and the Bold, and any other Warner Brother's owned property that have aired on Cartoon Network originally.ETLamborghini (talk) 20:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.254.83.35, 4 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} At the bottom of the "2010s" section it says "In february, cartoon network will air... the hall of game awards". Now that February has passed and this section hasn't been updated, you know what to do.

98.254.83.35 (talk) 00:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

 Done Stickee (talk) 06:29, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.254.83.35, 11 March 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Delete the unsourced "rumor" section on this page. 98.254.83.35 (talk) 21:24, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Already done.—Kww(talk) 22:29, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

13 New Series

Cartoon Network has ordered 13 new series:

• The Problem Solverz
• Secret Mountain Fort Awesome
• The Amazing World of Gumball
• The Looney Tunes Show
• Level Up
• New Ben 10 Series
• ThunderCats
• Green Lantern: The Animated Series
• DC Nation
• How to Train Your Dragon
• Total Drama: Revenge of the Island
• RedaKai: Conquer the Cairo
• Lego Ninjago

The original series are definitely The Problem Solverz, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, and probably a new Ben 10.

Original series aren't Warner Bros. Animation productions: The Looney Tunes Show, ThunderCats, DC Nation and Green Lantern: TAS, or a new Total Drama.

And what about the rest? The Amazing World of Gumball is the premiere on Cartoon Network UK and is produced in Europe, so is the original series or European co-production? Level Up, a new live-action series series is the CN original? How to Train Your Dragon is a DreamWorks production, but The Penguins of Madagascar and Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness are the Nickelodeon Originals, so maybe HtTYD will be a Cartoon Network original series? And what with RedaKai and Lego Ninjago?

83.29.129.167 (talk) 13:20, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Era Names

Hey guys I have the names of the various eras of Cartoon Network, for those interested to know as soon as someone for no reason put this but some will remove the article understand? my explanations.--OliverDF (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)OliverDF--OliverDF (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

No. These era names do not belong in the article. JJ98 (Talk) 17:40, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Blocks

Can someone organize the former blocks section? Perhaps its own separate page? MarkThreesixty (talk) 21:48, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I guess so, so long they are referenced. JJ98 (Talk) 17:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

As noted, I have split into List of Cartoon Network programing blocks. JJ98 (Talk) 17:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

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"Miguzi"

So, "miguzi" redirects here, yet there is literally no mention of it. Way to go, once again, Wikipedians. I'm sure there's some bureaucratic BS reason for this, too. --67.190.183.219 (talk) 08:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

There is. Its at List of Cartoon Network programing blocks. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 08:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Why block this article?

if I OliverDF only thing I do is fix the mistakes you have the article so that all understand better. perhaps I do wrong?--OliverDF (talk) 02:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Youtubes are generally not allowed due to concerns about copyright violations. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Baseball Bugs's concerns, because OliverDF has been disruptive. YouTube is a not reliable source. Every time tired to tag WikiProject United States banner, OliverDF starts adding all the era names, I reverted it. This article has been had a severe vandalism and a mess, just like Billy Mays. This article has been protected five times and it is likely get indefinite protection like CNN. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 09:16, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Cartoon Network and Total Drama Island

Hi, I'm from Poland. Polish Cartoon Network reruns Total Drama Island now. When I watched it, in the end credits I saw: FreshTV logo, Télétoon Original Productions logo, Cake Distribution logo and at the end.. Cartoon Network logo. I was surprised because I thought that Cartoon Network only aired this show. So is Cartoon Network one of the producers of Total Drama Island? Eguaroc (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

There not owned by Cartoon Network. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 00:37, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.110.140.172, 5 July 2011

Please remove any info relating to the network's name being directly associated with preschool programming. This channel was never meant to be directly aimed at a toddler demographic (unlike PBS Kids). 76.110.140.172 (talk) 21:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. The only statement that talks about preschool that I found is Despite the network's name, Cartoon Network does not carry any preschool programing and currently airs several live-action shows in its lineup which agrees with your statement. Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions to impove the article

There suggestions to improve the article. This is the comments from H1nkles (talk · contribs):

Lead

• Your writing has a lot of adverbs like "originally" "primarily" "mainly", these aren't necessary. Sometimes they have a place but they also clutter up the prose and many of them can be removed.
• Third cable channel behind disney and nick. Third in what? Kids' programming? It's not clear.
• Overall in the lead the writing is choppy and needs to be streamlined. Here's an example:

• "Since 2009, it began airing a small amount of live-action programming, specifically movies from Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema, both of which are also owned by Time Warner." Rewrite like this, "In 2009 it started airing live-action programming, including movies from Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema." No one cares that they're owned by Time Warner.

• See WP:LEAD for instructions on what should be in a good lead. The lead should be a summary of the entire article and this lead should be enhanced to include every subject within the article (written in a summary style).

History

• The clean up banner is legitimate and should be addressed. Usually clean up banners should be handled before the article is listed at WP:PR. I can see a number of templates in the following sections. These should be addressed and the sourcing improved.
• As a general rule every paragraph should have at least one source, and more if there are multiple assertions.
• See WP:INCITE for reference anchor placement. They don't go in the middle of the sentence but rather at the end unless the assertion is very controversial.
• The parenthetical reference in the first sentence is too detailed. Give a few examples of what was acquired and leave it at that.
• Watch out for one sentence paragraphs. These stubs are not acceptable at GAC. Consider combining or expanding.
• Make sure titles are always italicized even when not linked.
• What is meant by the "Powerhouse era"? What is powerhouse music?

Programming

• This is a section with no prose. Not good. Sections with just a tophat are unnecessary. Either add some prose or remove the section. I think you fold in most of the programming info in the previous section.

Related projects

• Here is a section "Cartoon Network Universe: FusionFall" see above.

References

• The key to references is consistency. Make sure every website ref has at least the title, url, publisher, and accessdate.
• You probably want to use templates like {{cite web}} to help with consistency.
• Deviantart appears to be a blog or discussion forum. This is not a credible reference. See WP:CITE and WP:VERIFY for instructions on credible references. Avoid blogs, forums, chat rooms, social networking sites etc.

Overall

• As stated above the article needs a lot more referencing. This will be a major sticking point if you want it to pass GAC. * I would also seek out someone who can do a thorough copy edit.
• There isn't much about the financing of the channel, advertising revenue, demographics that sort of thing. It would be nice to see some more information on these topics.
• This concludes my review. Please contact me on my talk page if you have specific questions. Best of luck to you.

I've fix the issue. Some movies were carried from 20th Century Fox, Paramount Pictures and Walt Disney Pictures which are not owned by Time Warner. I've improved some it a little bit, but the article needs to be rewrite and remove any blog, user and fan sites which are not reliable. Any reliable sources can be added per WP:V and WP:RS. Remember, {{Cite web}} is recommended. Good luck improving the article. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 01:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be an over-reliance on online articles in this page. Where are the printed references on books? A small search through googlebooks points at least one book which does try to seriously analyze the network. Prime time animation: television animation and American culture" (2003) by Routledge publications devotes pages 97-105 to Cartoon Network and various aspects of it. In particular, its corporate ownership, its marketing strategies, its access to the "largest collection of animated programming" though ownership of Warner Brothers and MGM theatrical shorts, its merchandise campaigns, and its censorship practices.Why not summarize use citations from this and other available books to help this obviously underdeveloped article? Dimadick (talk) 05:42, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Sounds fine with me. Go for it. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 08:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Censorship

I don't know if this is relevant to the Censorship section but, I found an interesting fact on this Adventure Time fan wiki article about an episode titled "Wizard" that says "The logs that cover Finn and the Old Wizards near the end of the episode were originally going to be beavers, but Cartoon Network edited it", although I have no idea where they have got that fact. But if it is true, we can add most recent example to the section. JSH-alive ^{talk • cont • mail} 01:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

If you can list a source, please add it. But leave it it out if there is no source other than a fellow wiki. Dimadick (talk) 05:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Found it. It's from the official blog of Frederator Studios who made Adventure Time. http://archives.frederatorblogs.com/adventure_time/2010/05/14/the-junk-you-dont-see/ JSH-alive ^{talk • cont • mail} 06:41, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Fancruft

This article has far too much information about little subjects (e.g. branding, previous programming). One excerpt in paticular:

"Beginning May 25, 2008, Cartoon Network has been airing animated shorts, called Wedgies, to fill in spots between two programs. On July 14, 2008, the network took on a newer look created by Tristan Eaton and was animated by Crew972. The bumpers of that era had white, faceless characters called Noods, based on the DIY toy, Munny. The standard network logo was then completely white, adopting different colors based on the occasion in the same style. On June 12, 2009, the screen bug then turned all black with white letters and starting March 2010, the words "CARTOON NETWORK" in Eagle (typeface) font is now white instead black and it starting to push down little further."

Ignoring the obvious grammar and fancruft speckled here and there, is it important to have these sections describing these 'eras'? I can understand branding elements can pertain an interest to a majority of people, but I'll eat a hat if this is considered encyclopedic. Whisternefet (talk) 20:11, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

I revamped the majority of the article. Tell me what you think. Whisternefet (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey Guys

I added the names of the eras and slogans channel PLEASE do not delete them.--OliverDF (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

fourth logo

first of all, is cartoon network making a fourth logo, or reviving the first? whi does it say that the current logo will change on december 31, 2011?

24.130.17.92 (talk) 00:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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Best of CN

Seriously you think this "Best of CN" is fake even though it's listed on CN's schedule, right? OK, you don't believe me about the Brak and Zorak hosting it thing, but come on the block is really coming. It's listed on CN's backdoor schedule, it's reliable because it's on schedule.adultswim.com, which is a subsite of adultswim.com, which is the official site of Adult Swim, which is on Cartoon Network. How clear can I say it?--Vasko444 (talk) 16:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

It's true, it actually is. I just watched a night or two ago. StaleCupcakes (talk) 17:52, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Classics

It's good that Cartoon Network is airing some classic shows, such as Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes. But I would like to see more classics. Specifically, 1) I would like to see the Flintstones and the Jetson return to Cartoon Network permanently (Note: These shows can still air on Boomerang, too.) 2) Put these shows on at convenient times (like weekend morning and afternoons). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.62.209.129 (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup

International Cartoon Network pages are a mss, can't we have an agreed style for each. Also, they have been using these fan terms to refer to a certain "era" when the wikipedia manual of style states that wikipedia is not a guide. Kartoffel07 (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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PLEASE

is CHECK it, no check it , see at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vvu5w4Yt8o.--OliverDF (talk) 17:04, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Using all caps for emphasis is discouraged; see WP:ALLCAPS. Trivialist (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

See above. Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization. Most capitalization is for proper names or for acronyms and initialisms. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is a proper name; words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in sources are treated as proper names and capitalized in Wikipedia. Kartoffel07 (talk) 20:41, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Toonami in "Related Projects" section?

I was wondering, but can we add Toonami to the "Related projects" section? --Hello, I'm a Wikipedian! (talk) 23:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Cartoon Network Central & Eastern Europe on the homepage of huwiki!

Hey! See the homepage of huwiki, because there is a featured Cartoon Network article! :) --Ákos9702 (talk) 12:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Reception

Where is this at?184.98.112.167 (talk) 06:08, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

new logo

if you watch cartoon network on tv you will see it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.243.48 (talk) 18:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

The power courage the cowardly girls.

They should be back courage not the powderpuff — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 16:39, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Logo galleries

Logo galleries for services like Cartoon Network HD and On Demand are extraneous, per MOS:LOGO. At the very least, keep the current variations of the logos, for those are the most relevant to the article at hand. Whisternefet©®℠℗™ 06:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Do we really even need the logo for the current CN HD? It's not that different than the regular CN one. Also, why is there no image of the classic CN logo? All the article has is the updated version. Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 06:35, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I uploaded the updated version of the logo from a PDF extraction, only because I suspect having two is kind of redundant, but then again I can add it back. As for the HD variant, probably not that necessary, but it's better than having two (former and new), which was the issue at hand here. Probably best to have less visual clutter, per MOS:LOGO. Whisternefet©®℠℗™ 08:07, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The only logos I'm really for are whatever current logo is in the infobox and the original logo (the Boomerang one is fine too, I guess). Yeah, the gallery issue really does clutter things up. Let's hope no one tries to add it back lol. Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 08:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

We show the old logos on plenty of other channels, it's the common practice and theree has to be a good reasoning for their removal. For that reason I have returned them and will continue to do so. Fry1989 ^eh? 17:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The logos in question are non-vector/low-quality images that serve no other purpose besides highlighting an evolution in branding which can already be summed up by including the vector logos for the network proper (not HD/On Demand variants). Even if it is "common practice" for other articles like this one, it's redundant visual clutter. At the very least, include the most relevant ones. Demonstrating the progression from older logos to newer ones seem more relevant for wikis pertaining to logos in general. Whisternefet©®℠℗™ 22:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

That's your "opinion", not a policy. Fry1989 ^eh? 18:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

New Cartoon Network logo

The 2010 variation of the 1992 Cartoon Network logo might be the new logo for Cartoon Network for life. It will actually be used June 1, 2013, the same date they spun [adult swim] off into its own uncensored channel running 24/7/365, and the same release date for Cartoon Network's new replacement late night channel, CN @ Night. CN @ Night might launch June 1, 2013 @ 9pm/8pm central at night. CN @ Night signs off every morning @ 6am/5am central.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.11.226.201 (talk) 12:40 pm, 1 April 2013, Monday (7 months, 21 days ago) (UTC−6)

Proposed merge with Cartoon Cartoons

Hi, there are a few reasons why I think the article should be merged with this one. For starters, there's no clear definition of what a "Cartoon Cartoon" actually is, other than a label used by the network for "original series" for some years. Some controversy exists over the term, too. For example, although it has been "confirmed" that Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and Camp Lazlo are Cartoon Cartoons (according to the talk page and hidden comments in the article's body), they aren't listed as such in the main text. Next, the bulk of the article is a list of programs made up of info taken from the lead of the individual cartoon articles. Take away this section, and we're left with 7 short paragraphs and only 1 reference. Most, if not all of this remaining info could be incorporated into this one on Cartoon Network. Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 23:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Anyone object to this? Agree, disagree, comment, etc.? Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 00:28, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

First cartoon aired

This article currently states that the first program broadcast by CN was Rhapsody Rabbit. That bit of info was added here, on July 4, 2012, but no source was actually cited for it. The cartoon isn't mentioned in the Oct. 1, 1992, newspaper article, and I even have a problem with Van Partible's blog post, as he could've obtained his info from Wikipedia (where else would he get his info about events from October 1?). Now, what makes me bring this up is part of an article on Variety's website about CN's 20th birthday. It includes key dates in CN history, one being the network's premiere date and first program shown, which Variety Staff believe is The Great Piggy Bank Robbery, not Rhapsody Rabbit. Should we go with the blog post, the Variety article, or something different? Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 00:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I googled this, right. I was lead to this forum post [1] here. Had some interesting information, which wasn't too verifiable; until he posted an article a few posts down, here. So, it was an hour-long special called "Droopy's Guide to the Cartoon Network" which apparently showed Rhapsody Rabbit first, but the cartoon part isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. The forum post definitely isn't a RS, but, I'll try to look for more info. || Tako (talk) 01:00, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

While I'm not able to access the entire newspaper (and have no idea how to gain access to their archives right now), I did find this snippet by doing a search (third result) in Google Books:

"When the network launches, the character known as Droopy will introduce the service to viewers and then present the Cartoon Network's first animated cartoon, "Rhapsody Rabbit," starring Bugs Bunny."

— The Hollywood Reporter

page 81 of this Newspaper, apparently. I'll look for access to the archives. || Tako (talk) 01:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Nice detective work. I've added some of that info to the launch section, including the Hollywood Reporter source. Paper Luigi ^{T • C} 01:49, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Serious question, Who is Kevin Sandler?=

Throughout this article there are several instances where this person is referenced. He is never explained who he is or what value of authority, if any he is. The citations at the bottom don't link to his own work and it appears it's quoting something that someone quoted him.

There seems to be no proper citation on what he has information or studies upon and in truth many of his assertions seem kind of bias and contrary to what the "general public" would believe today. For example his assertion it was SGC2C that won over adult viewers seems to not flow with the idea that the main audiences viewable in any modern social media search would show is is college age and younger viewers who find it "cool" to watch things the tv says they shouldn't. I feel using "cool" is a fair term use given that Mr Sandler seems to find some people appreciated a show being "hip" is an appropriate coinage in a study.

Now if he wrote this article? book? editorial? based on a survey of some kind he might very well have had evidence to go on, but survery bias isn't exactly not expected, but still given the article offers no incite into who he is/was and what he did to be able to back any of it up, we are left wondering who is this person who seems to be presenting his own whimsical theories that do defy the current beliefs.

Now if we could add a sentence detailing who this man is and why his opinion is of relevance than so be it, but without any validation i don't see what this man's opinions are doing in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.63 (talk) 02:53, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

The Cartoon Cartoons having it's own section

I feel that the Cartoon Cartoons should have it's own section. Those cartoons were mainly done by both Hanna Barbera and Cartoon Network Studios thus naming them Cartoon Cartoons along with small studios during the beginning when the channel began producing original series.--Sonic100jam (talk) 15:47, 23 May 2013 (UTC) hbbvg :(fffgggvvhhhfvvvb bnm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:D181:2800:E580:CFD4:BC50:4191 (talk) 01:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Cartoon Network founder

Hello, The founder of Cartoon Network is Ted Turner not Jim Staples. Ted turner bought a handful of cartoons in 1992 and created the Cartoon Network which from 1992-2008 Jim Staples was the CEO, not the Founder.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.90.154 (talk) 04:40, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Split the History section

you can split the history section in this page because its was completed. 186.116.74.2 (talk) 23:46, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

 Not done It's unclear what you are asking. Please phrase your request in a "please change X to Y" format. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:09, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Pruning Programming

I'd like to suggest that we prune some of the examples in the first paragraph of Cartoon Network#Programming. These sorts of lists become magnets for everyone to list their favorite series, for example in these edits, or the content I removed in this edit. Another example of listcruft can be found at this related article. Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Section headings: Use presidential eras or not

On a few occasions (originally in Dec 2014, then here and here Phil A. Fry has attempted to organize the article content according to the various presidents of Cartoon Network, for example, one header is "2014–present: Miller era". This organization was removed here by Classicalfan626, then here. Neither editor has taken to the talk page to discuss this, so I'm starting the discussion for them. If anyone else has any strong thoughts one way or another, please feel free to comment here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2015

Ref #56's link is broken. Here is an alternate link to the same article which works. http://www.avclub.com/article/aqua-teen-hunger-force-sued-over-theme-song-15851 64.72.65.120 (talk) 01:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Done Seemed to work just fine for me, but I noticed the current link ended with ,15851 instead of -15851, which is how the AV club website URL displays it, so have replaced it with the hyphen. Cannolis (talk) 05:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Cartoon Network/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

4 images, 62 citations. JJ98 (Talk) 22:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Last edited at 22:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC). Substituted at 20:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2015

Please add the following IPTV provider to this page, thanks. | iptv serv 4 = Southern Fibernet | iptv chan 4 = 1301 (HD) 216.66.32.34 (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

isaiah

cartoon network — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.130.251.21 (talk) 22:27, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

My Gym Partner's a Monkey DID premiere in 2005

I'm not kidding. I'm sorry, but My Gym Partner's a Monkey premiered on the same year as Camp Lazlo, the Life and times of Juniper Lee, Sunday Pants, and Ben 10. So, technically, 2005 was when Cartoon Network premiered about 5 new shows in one year. Yes, 2004 was when Cartoon Network premiered three new shows, but 2006 was when Cartoon Network premiered just two shows: Squirrel Boy and Class of 3000. I know I sound like I'm giving out opinions, but really. I don't want to be blocked. Okay? I'm not ever going to put any opinions on ANY article ever again. I promise. Thank you. --SpaceGoofsGeekerBoy (talk) 14:13, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

• Well, if you can provide a source when adding the information, there should be no problem. Trivialist (talk) 00:53, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2016

the text "the network also began airing importing more programs from Canadian channels such as" is incorrect. it should be "the network also began airing Canadian shows imported from"

WikiCorrector7 (talk) 15:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Done VarunFEB2003 15:45, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2016

The text "Each October from 2007 to 2009" is wrong. it should be "Each show aired from 2007 to 2009"

WikiCorrector7 (talk) 16:32, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done: It's written correctly as is. They aired the show in October 2007, October 2008, and October 2009. —C.Fred (talk) 16:36, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2016

AnonymousAnarky (talk) 10:10, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

On September 26, 2016, CartoonNetwork 'for the first time' extended its time frame back to 9:00p.m. ET.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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Please add Cable name and numbers.

Cable: Charter Channels: 68 (SD) 768 (HD) CoolAkramTV (talk) 23:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2017

Aakeem998 (talk) 22:21, 20 February 2017 (UTC) http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=12131

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. - Mlpearc (open channel) 22:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2017

Remove Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Tower Prep from the 2011 upfront sentence as they debuted in 2010 173.71.205.109 (talk) 13:50, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:38, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Cartoon Network's Founder

CohenBetty Betty Cohen Known for: Founder and original president of Cartoon Network (1992–2001) Suceded by: Jim Samples Betty Cohen was the founder and original president of Cartoon Network from 1992 to 2001. The eras under her were Checkerboard (1992–1997) and Powerhouse (1997–2004). Under her leadership, the network became a global phenomenon with asset value of nearly $3 billion. Cohen stepped down from her post in 2001, stating “I was afraid I would die the queen of cartoons.”[1] She was succeeded by Jim Samples.

Most recently, Cohen served as the CEO of Lifetime Entertainment, a leader in women’s television.

Under Cohen, Toonami, the Cartoon Cartoons, Cartoon Cartoon Fridays, Cartoon Orbit, the Checkerboard and Powerhouse eras, and much more were introduced to CN. Favorite animation: One of Cohen's favorite animated shows was Dexter's — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benilda718 (talk • contribs) 12:48, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2017

2601:8A:501:8A1C:B87A:C56:D64E:3F18 (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — IVORK _Discuss 12:55, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2017

I am removing a copy of the entire article from here. If you have a suggested edit then please say what changes you want made and explain why. It is not realistic to expect another editor to read through the whole of a suggested replacement for the article, comparing it word by word with the existing article, work out what the differences are, and guess what the reasons for the proposed changes are. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 19:56, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

• • That's the "Aspect ratio Vandal", who takes to over-complicating the descriptions of video formats and aspect ratios in network articles; they've been at it for a month. Their edits had no purpose but to annoy, and currently use a 'Spongebob-' prefix (these edits were likely to try to get auto-confirmation). Taking them to WP:AIV to get them blocked as a sock. Nate • (chatter) 03:06, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Cartoon Network

DirecTV needs to be added in the table! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.18.13 (talk) 19:37, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Cartoon Network is now part of the AT&T family

I'm afraid it's true. If AT&T buys TimeWarner, that means they now own Cartoon Network. --73.6.75.134 (talk) 00:28, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

You're two years late. --Bankster (talk) 00:37, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

It might not happen that way. Many people (myself included) are opposed to it and even the Government is going to sue to try and block the merger. So there is hope. DatGuyonYouTube (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

The "History" section

I think the History section needs split into its own page. It is far too long, longer than Nickelodeon's, which has its own page. Foxnpichu (talk) 13:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose. Readable prose is 41K per WP:RPS. This is close to the WP:SIZERULE 40k so need for split based on size if very low at this point. The history section is a significant portion of this article but is not overwhelming this article. I don't see the benefit of a split. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez In that case can we work together to trim down the section, possibly removing unnecessary and excessive information? Foxnpichu (talk) 17:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@Foxnpichu: I am not a subject matter expert in this area so won't be able to evaluate what is unnecessary and excessive. I'm likely to just trust your judgement. I personally think the section is OK as it is, but welcome anyone willing to put in the effort to improve it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Turner is STILL the owner of CN.

Yes, it is true that CN will be transferred to Warner Bros. But stuff like this takes time and Cartoon Network's website still lists the network as being owned by Turner Broadcasting System. The change hasn't happened yet. Turner still exists for now and unless there is a source that says the change has occurred, please do NOT change Cartoon Network's owner to Warner Bros.. HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 17:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

• Not as of the announcement that Cartoon Network and Boomerang would be under Warner's Kids & Family unit. It happened immediately. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.177.193.215 (talk) 22:32, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

No it didn't. It never said that in the article and the website still says that CN is owned by Turner. Your statement is false. HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 13:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Recent Hack

The CN site got hacked recently and videos are being replaced with memes. Is this something of note to bring up in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MantleM (talk • contribs) 03:55, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

No. It's not very significant. HurricaneGeek2002 (talk) 13:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

That incident is serious bro! Where else am I supposed to put it if it's not needed in the US feed? It would needed to be there no matter what, Look again at the article dude. You'll see that it talks about it in other locations, so why not the hacking incident? Tell where other Cartoon Network article to put it, and I will do so. Thanks, HappyINC. HappyINC (talk) 15:11, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a shame LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 21:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

I strongly oppose the inclusion of this information. This article is about the United States feed, which was not affected by the hackings, and therefore the information is not relevant. ElectricBurst^{(Electron firings)}_(Zaps) 17:17, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Owner parameter

Look, I don't particularly care about who is listed in the owner parameter of the infobox. My issue is that whoever is listed needs to consistent with what is in the text of the article. If the text of the article says it's owned by one company (WarnerMedia), the infobox shouldn't say something else (WarnerMedia Ent.). In addition, the edit warring is getting disruptive. Please discuss it here. Aoi (青い) (talk) 02:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Jeez Louise, Everybody is fighting over the owner parameter, Otherwise than Turner and Warner Bros., I would make no sense to have “just WarnerMedia”. It makes no sense at all, mentioning about Trivialist who changed Warner Bros AND Turner to WarnerMedia, rather be, if the spilt isn’t happening at all, (i doubt) Turner could’ve stayed on there if this edit war didn’t start in the first. Not to mention the spilt away from Turner to Warner Bros’ Warner Bros. Global Kids & Young Adults for Cartoon Network and Boomerang to go into, Again, if the spilt is not happening, then why does WB.GK&YA even exist? Of course, none of you even know that Turner defuncted. As of it’s website redirecting to WarnerMedia’s, Would that mean shit? So everyone, Leave the owner parameter alone until the spilt happens. (if so) HappyINC (talk) 03:42, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Ergo, there is a lot confusion if Turner split into WB. Even though in my opinion, I would be cool if CN switches into WB. After days, [edit here] by User SLBBenfis23 sourced this edit, but user VictorTorres2002 [it.] [I put it back] saying that "The edit is reliably sourced, And the website, They will change the ownership, but they need time, y’know? Just like BabyTV, owned by Disney, it’s website says that it’s still owned by Fox. So we should be good to go now." But none of you listened to me. Now with that out of the way, can you all at least, just stay away from the parameter and stick to CN's recent significant news? cus this is beginning to be too much. Also, Aoi, You should have said this issue in this talk page section 'Turner is STILL the owner of CN." Thanks, HappyINC (talk) 15:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Part of the problem is that WarnerMedia did not state that the Turner Broadcasting split was going to happen effective immediately despite mentions of that company being removed from their channels' press releases. In the case of Warner Bros. gaining Cartoon Network and Adult Swim, that process may have been affected or delayed due to their CEO being ousted just days later due to a scandal. I'd say to just leave Turner as the owners of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim per WP:CRYSTAL until we get an official announcement. IceWalrus236 (talk) 18:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm fine with IceWalrus236's reasoning for leaving the field as "Turner" for now. Aoi (青い) (talk) 22:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Somebody is hacking the page.

They are putting in German adresses even though it was concepted in America. And when I try to undo them, it doesn't do squat. They also deleted the past years edits. Somebody do something immeadiantly.Eclispeo (talk) 01:47, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

April Fool's day stunts

Can you add in a section showing all the April Fool's Day stunts that Cartoon Network has done over the past few years? This is to be more consistent with the Adult Swim article and also so we can see what the "Cat-toon Newtork" joke did.--24.44.76.88 (talk) 01:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2021

Please add this template to the bottom:

{{Former Cartoon Network original programming}} 2601:241:300:B610:D55E:BC60:2EA2:DD83 (talk) 00:18, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 08:50, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Location of headquarters

From what I've seen, there's conflicting information on where CN's headquarters is located. Some say it's in Atlanta, (as shown in the main page) others say it's in New York City. (more specifically the Deutsche Bank Center) So which location is correct? --72.42.172.83 (talk) 04:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Splitting the History section

Do you think it's time to split the "History" section of Cartoon Network into separate articles? It's getting longer with time. Disney Channel and Nickelodeon (albeit being much older networks) have theirs separated.

Yes, it sure is. AlolanMeowthOsu (talk) 20:26, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2022

it only has 4 shows now Malkosfianuu (talk) 07:40, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EnIRtpf09b^{chat with me} 11:11, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

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