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Thames and Carlton edit

Latest comment: 17 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Carlton's epitaph is Everyone misses Thames, no-one misses Carlton. In the end Thames was destroyed for nothing as Carlton died with the other regional brands. PMA 18:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

True, but there's no way we can say such a thing in the article itself without a reliable source - although a quick Google suggests this and this, to a degree as likely starting points. ➨ ЯEDVERS 21:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
- Yes they could be used - i defer to you for the wording in the article. PMA 05:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Looking at the history of this page, I agree with previous edits. This page should be about the ITV London WEEKDAY company Carlton. Yes it should include details of the Central and Westcounty takeover but the history of the Central and Westcoutry pages should be detailed oon theri own pages

Simplification edit

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I have removed a chunk at the top of the page as it is exactly the same as further down in the unification section, therefore it is unneccessary -anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.228.59 (talk) 22:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Second Ident edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

That second look never come in to use until 1995, alot of people been mislead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fHiPx_sZxU 8th June 1995, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wilson Lord Wilson died two weeks before this, and NETWORK FIRST: IGOR, CHILD OF CHERNOBYL ( 1995) http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/529234

Its most likely the new look started on 5th September 1995. --Crazyseiko (talk) 20:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

fakes documentary = edit

New Source for the fakes documentary http://www.marketingweek.co.uk/carlton-must-face-programme-facts-and-shed-tabloid-image/2050232.article

Programming edit

Some History which will need to be revised.

In the regional schedules it was new programmes a-go-go. David Frost had a weekly chat show, there was a new afternoon programme for women and a what's on guide. The biggest change was in regional news, which was given a complete overhaul. As part of its bid LWT had proposed a new seven-day news operation in conjunction with whichever company won the weekday contract to provide a more cost-effective service for the franchise-holders, and continuity in style for the viewers. There had always been a fair amount of rivalry between LWT and Thames, and Carlton was determined that relations with the weekend station should be complementary. The two companies set up a joint operation, London News Network, based at LWT's South Bank studio complex, to provide transmission control and news programming. The studio made use of the north bank of the River Thames as the backdrop for presenters. A brand new magazine London Tonight appeared at 6pm on weeknights, supplemented by shorter London Today bulletins throughout the day. London has always been difficult to cover regionally. Much of the nation's agenda is dominated by activity in the capital, and it has always been difficult to separate national stories from London ones. The size of the place adds additional problems, as stories in one part have little appeal to residents of another. As a result transport and political stories tend to dominate given their relevance to the widest possible audience. Carlton felt quite rightly that it could only do justice to the region with an hour-long show. However, with much of its target audience still struggling home at the programme's start time, it turned the typical running order for a regional news show upside down by dealing with the lighter stories first, leaving the harder news items for the second half of the show. Even then it brushed over them at lightning speed. There was a heavy emphasis on entertainment stories and one innovation was the insertion of traffic bulletins throughout the programme, of the type typically seen now on breakfast TV.

It was inevitable that Carlton would come in for criticism. It was after all covering the area where all national press is based, and most newspapers and commentators were keen to run the station down. Some of the criticism was understandable. A new tribute show Surprise Party broadcast on the station's first day and intended as a replacement for This Is Your Life ended in a food fight. Most viewer complaints stemmed from changes in the schedules and a reduction in the number of episodes of imported Australian soaps necessary to accommodate the new regional shows.

On the network, Carlton commissioned new children's programmes, drama and entertainment from independent production companies. Many of these were recorded at new, emerging facilities houses, such as Teddington, the old Thames TV building, and the London studios, LWT facilities which the company spun off into a business in its own right.

The biggest criticism aimed at Carlton was the quality of its programmes. But Carlton emerged at a time of great change for British TV, with more channels, chasing a decreasing audience. Would the defeated Thames have done the same?

London Tonight failed to hold its audience and in 1994 the hour-long format was ditched. With a commitment to an hour enshrined in its application, it devised a truly dreadful new format called After Five. This was essentially a 30 minute daily show screened at 5.10pm covering all the lighter entertainment and human interest items. London Tonight was reduced to a half-hour straight news programme at 6.30pm with the traffic bulletins stripped out. Carlton tried using the Australian soap opera Home and Away to hold the viewer's interest at six.

After a couple of years After Five began to look repetitive and the show was ditched and the 'hour to fill' millstone round Carlton's neck was solved with the advent of a new 30 minute lunchtime news programme. London Tonight was moved to 6pm and new regional soaps and gameshows appeared at 6.30pm.

Carlton's on screen identity remained slick. By November of the first year, the 'Television for London' slogan was beginning to grate and was dropped, along with the break bumper. The use of the real-life Londoners was ditched in autumn 1994, when a new set of shimmering idents appeared. After two years these were replace by a new set of programme and genre specific idents in which the Carlton name style would appear or change according to the programme type or time of day. They worked brilliantly and were popular. Controversially, the style was rolled out to Central a few years after it was taken over by Carlton to replace the long-standing 'cake' ident.

Carlton Television in 1984 edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

There was a Carlton Television in 1984 according to this Frankie Goes To Hollywood video which starts with a Carlton Television ident dated 21/5/84: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXWVpcypf0w 82.169.103.207 (talk) 22:05, 19 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

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